Netanyahu: Burnham’s Britain is a ‘rogue state’

Lol

Accuse others of what you are guilty of.

Trump does just the same.

That and many other photos are updated google maps images,the sheer scale of destruction can be seen in many media outlets.

A shame on humanity.

No wonder Netanyahu won't let journalists into Gaza.

Crime of the century.

More than 36500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests

Worse than that?

murder is murder regardless of the scoreline mate

It is, so why do you think there is no outrage on here about Iran, mate?

they missed a bit, must try harder.

according to my son  ......anything dodgy  happens anywhere in the world  its either israel or trumps fault or both .nothing can shift him from those opinions  .

It must have been difficult bringing Escapee up.

according to my son  ......anything dodgy  happens anywhere in the world  its either israel or trumps fault or both .nothing can shift him from those opinions

Your son missed out the other great corrupt psychopath, Putin.

SirNorbertClarke 04 Oct 26 09:18 
No one is saying Hamas doesn't have supporters in Gaza
.............................

Ridiculous statement. Gaza IS Hamas. You saw the public in their thousands,
battering the bodies of dead, or captive, Jews as they were driven through
the streets. Each child is taught to hate Jews as a matter of course.

If you support war crimes there is little hope for you.

Antisemitism is rife on this forum.

"More than 36500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests".

The UN Human Rights Council said the 36,500 killed in Iran when they sent their security forces after protesters amounted to crimes against humanity. I can only think of one reason for ignoring this which is antisemitism.

Fark me the nonsense written on here !

Which genocidal monstrosity of a country is less worse than the other ? What kind of statement is that ?



Clue : they are both utter scumbags - but when you point out Israel it gets tainted with the 'antisemitism' smear which actually has fk all to do with it

Same same when people vocalise discontent at the level of migration - obviously you must be racist and far right

If you didn't want a jab in 2021 you are most likely anti-vax



Driven by gov, media, legacy and social they are giving you a binary world to exist in - Wake up boys

I agree, deaths in foreign lands are not worth a mention if there are no Jews to blame.

Do ya think maybe Israel are more likely to get called out than Iran for example for any other various reasons Saddo ?

How much taxpayer money goes towards Iran's ordnance for example ?

Don't waste your time on me, this country is full of Jew haters, I know it and you know it.

* And Ireland is even worse.

'Full of jew haters'


wow

If that is so... why do they 'hate' so much ?  For what specific reason ?

If it's not antisemitism no one seems to be able to explain why certain people are always complaining about Israel's war crimes and not Iran's war crimes. A reasonable person with principles would be concerned about both.

Who is saying they are not concerned with both ?

btw anti-Zionism is not antisemitism unless yet again you get painted into a corner by the binary worshippers ...

Continually complaining about Israel's war crimes and not Iran's is the clue.

A morally sound complainer would complain about both.

What is your source for Iran war crimes Ron?

If you are comfortable with a country committing war crimes there really is little hope for you.

Find any Iranian war crimes yet Ron?

It is an illegal war.Talks were sabotaged prior to it despite Iran agreeing to the conditions.
A needless war brought on by Israel and the US which the world suffers it's economic fallout.

The UN Human Rights Council said the 36,500 killed in Iran when they sent their security forces after protesters amounted to crimes against humanity.

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I understand now, war crimes bad, crimes against humanity ok.

I never said that^,i wanted to know which war crimes were committed in this illegal war.

Don't you?

I'm concerned about Iranian crimes against humanity, aren't you?

That is a separate issue.
The point of a bad faith argument on the thread in order to justify genocide is plain wrong.

36.5 thousand in two days, have Israel matched that?

You're debating like a leftie on this subject saddo


it's very strange - same for ronald -  all very odd

In the same breath? I have never once seen him complain about Iranian war crimes. Never mind in the same breath, in the same century would show less bias.

No doubt the Iranians are just as bad as the Israelis. Both of them are murderous.

They are worse tbf, they attacked Israel through one of their many proxy terrorist organisations, Hamas.

Are you claiming that the expert assessments from Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International lapsy are wrong in claiming some of Iran's actions are war crimes? E.g. deliberately targeting civilian vessels and their crews around the Strait of Hormuz, and their child soldier enlistment, recruiting child soldiers as young as 12?

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/03/23/iran-deliberate-attacks-on-civilian-ships-apparent-war-crimes
/

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/04/iran-recruitment-of-child-soldiers-as-young-as-12-amounts-to-a-war-crime
/

And that's on top on the UN's accusations of crimes against humanity, but you won't hear the antisemites complaining about any of that because they can't blame Israel.

I suppose the best we can hope for from the antisemites is their continuing incessant damnation of Israel and occasional vague mutterings about both sides being murderous (but only when pulled up about being one sided) so as to be able to falsely claim to be balanced.

Oct 4, 2026 -- 5:12PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:

No doubt the Iranians are just as bad as the Israelis. Both of them are murderous.

Iran are murdering their own people, including children, something I am pretty sure does not go on in Israel.


https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/12/iran-authorities-covering-up-their-crimes-of-child-killings-by-coercing-families-into-silence/

Iran are murdering their own people, including children, something I am pretty sure does not go on in Israel.

You are dead right. The Israelis are just murdering Arabs including children.

iran has publicly stated it wants to kill every jew and end israel entirely and has said as much for 40 years

never has anyone mentioned this, nor the fact it has taken over another country (lebanon) to attack israel. nor do they mention its intention to acquire nuclear weapons to destroy israel

the war was started by iranian proxy hamas that dug a giant network of tunnels into israel with the sole intention of murder. again, nothing from the outragees

now, after the bayonneting of babies israel has lost it, everyone is outraged. after 40 years of silence

no surprise. theres a hierarchy of of victims and the 'west', which includes the u.s. uk, and aus/nz is at the bottom. its not geography, its an idea, ie, human rights law freedom tolerance economic and personal liberty, among other things

all of them alien to isaraels neighbours, which is good enough reason for the hard-left loons who drive this poisonous ideology to hate it. try judging its enemies by the same standards and you will notice something that make israel look like heaven on earth by comparison, despite its many faults

well done ignoring what i said

there could hardly be more anti-jew hatred. they have been driven out of the region, and christians are going the same way. the religion of peace is a mono-culture, a fact you ignore

you conflate the attacks with jews 'all over the world'. why should they live in fear? (they do) because of what goes on elsewhere?

every jewsih school and church in london has 24 hour security, including primaries. and it aint new. has been so for a long time pre-7th october

islamists target jews because they dont like them, and you have fallen in behind

do moslems all over the world live in fear because of the acts of islamists? no

well done ignoring what i said

i ignore nothing

why should 'jews live in more fear than ever'?

why should 'jews live in more fear than ever'?

It is a fact.

Like it or not the actions of Netanyahu these past 2 years have been disastrous for Jewish safety all over the world.

i ignore nothing

You ignored this....

Is that a good outcome?

SirNorbertClarke 04 Oct 26 20:39 
why should 'jews live in more fear than ever'?
It is a fact.
Like it or not the actions of Netanyahu these past 2 years have been disastrous for Jewish safety all over the world.

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Aye, because of people like you whipping up the hatred for them.

n0bby incredibly selective

'a good outcome'

no. it aint. and never will we get one until mugs like you confront the reality

you are so in denial

Dear oh dear.

cant argue with that devastating analysis

When the Iranians were uprising against the religious barbarian government seem to recall it was the main news story.  Probably a better current comparison would be the Rohinga in Myanmar, or the Sudanese genocide.

Israel is a democratic country with a much better standard of living and so we hold Israel to higher standards.  They are also far more relatable and newsworthy than Myanmar or Sudan.

3/5
Apart from being a war crime that just breeds more hatred of Israel.

4/5
The actions of Benjamin Netanyahu have led to a huge increase in antisemitism all over the world and every Jew now feels less safe.

5/5
Is that a good outcome?

It's not a topic you can debate on here now since the new AI censorship of posts.  Pointless

You can always rewrite your post with the offending language removed.

I had 2 identical posts removed.

Split it into 5 parts trying to find which bit was triggering the removal and all 5 parts passed the censorship.

Is pace card offensive?

Is booming fangs offensive?

is "murduh" offensive?

you can't say sue is snide.

I've had 2 or 3 posts with sue is snide in and all been removed.

Can't mention the greatest 2 wars in the 20th century in almost any context.  Just get removed

Vast majority of posts AI removes are not all offensive.  Maybe 1 in 10 are

It's annoying but it's usually possible to rewrite it to say the same thing in language that doesn't offend the AI censor.

Sue is snide crates con drown by half since the Eighties.  Hardly offensive

It's a pity this forum isn't more like twitter really. At least you can have a discussion on there without being endlessly moderated.

A lot forums won't let you talk about Sue is snide crates.

You could probably say self unaliving instead.

Sensitive subjects like this are going to cause offense to some people with almost anything you say.  If you point out established facts, maybe even more so than lies and rumours.  The truth often hurts much more than rubbish, which you can just brush off on an anonymous forum like this.

^ @  'and take their country from them'. Who is really taking whose country? Israel is a state founded just over 70 years ago. Palestine was and currently is being taken from them in 'bits' through the years and more so with the settler terrorists today, i think everyone can agree on that.

So the answer to hatred is war crimes.

All wars end with negotiations.

Wasn't it Churchill who said, Jaw Jaw is better than War War!

I've never met a situation that could be solved with a bit more hate.

Oct 5, 2026 -- 12:53PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:

So the answer to hatred is war crimes.All wars end with negotiations.Wasn't it Churchill who said, Jaw Jaw is better than War War!

No it was Harold Macmillan........


https://www.azquotes.com/quote/616466

The phrase “jaw-jaw is better than war-war� is most famously associated with Winston Churchill.

He used it in a speech to the House of Commons on 26 May 1954, during a debate about the Geneva Conference.

Churchill actually said, ‘Meeting jaw to jaw is better than war.’

It was Harold Macmillan who said 'jaw-jaw is better than war-war'

SirNorbertClarke

'All wars end with negotiations'

History tells us most end in surrender.........

The unconditional surrender of the German Third Reich was signed in the early morning hours of Monday, May 7, 1945, at Supreme Headquarters.

C minus for Knobby in History.....

Churchill was he the guy who advocated for war with Hitler before the second world war?

id have rather had the germans invade us than the Filth invading now

badjoe are you saying there were no negotiations to end WW2?

Because if something was signed it would appear they came to an agreement.

I wondered where my reply regards Hamas, Gaza and hostages had gone.

The UK will expel 27 Israeli diplomats and their families if Israel proceeds with closing the British Consulate in Jerusalem

Jer post

We should close the Israeli embassy in London and permanently bar all past, present and future members of the IDF.

Let the good people of Israel know what we think of their murderous ways.

but not the iranian one that caused this disaster and supports terror wherever it can. without iranian cash this isnt happening

or the chinese one that is liquidating its moslem population via forced sterilisation. now that is genocide

there are plenty of murderous countries but only one you care about

Hi BF, the problem i see is zionism and what it entails for Palestinians, the even want to 'sell' them (Ben Gvir).

Bibi 'supported' them, suitcases of cash going in through Syria, it and his political 'career'deserves the utmost scrutiny.

The West Bank isn't Hamas though obv sympathetic in parts

The settlers are modern day 'colonialists', a supremacist rule and until there is some form of 'equality' and fairness nothing will be sorted.

Just a quick question to you, do you think a Palestinian would consider their land as 'occupied'?

hello pa

im not a cheerleader for israel. just crtical of the hypocrisy. it is surrounded by people who want to end it, and after 1000s of rockets and tunnels and a brutal slaughter its blown up deluxe, which i deplore also

but the haters said nothing about its constant assault from iran, the nastiest state in the world, probably

and nothing will be 'sorted' as long as it exists. 'free palestine' is bollox. its a brtual mini-iran. those daftee wimmin waving placards would be married age 12 in gaza. only in israel would they have any rights at all

your own mary lou was outraged when ireland played israel at football but said nothing when the irish cricket team played afghanistan. where she would be soon dead. hypocrisy again

there will be no solution. thers plenty of arabs in israel and they are glad of it. its islam thats the problem. there, here and everywhere. until someone has the cobblers to say so nothing will happen

for the good. either through fear or dishonesty

on a positive note, the red cap has re-opened. i had a pint there and it was good

of course they would, as do you with the north. and im mostly on your side, with qualifications

but you and we arent that fanatical (well mostly) and have reached an accommmodation that pleases nobody but is better than what was going on before. just think back to how bad things were and you are shocked at how bad it was. unimaginable now

but the middle east is an intractable problem. the 2 states solution has been rejected by the pallys several times. they really dont like israel being there at all. and thats a tricky argument, as it is an artificial state created for noble reasons

the arab states invaded 3 times in an attempt to eradicate israel (f all to do with palestine, btw) but have now realised they cant just destroy it. hence some sort of rapproachment with the uae, for example

i dont know the answer, but it aint this

I know you aren't a cheerleader,you well know they have done wrong and i am listening to you on your view of islamic culture and even to others in that it needs to be 'watched' particulary from inside the 'West'.
Most people just want to get through life and my belief is that applies to the majority except the nutjobs.
Mary lou could have said to the bowler hat brigade walk through a few of you at 3.30am and it would be little skin off most noses,sometimes the phrase 'a better man' is applicable. As much as i think their core belief is right they would be a disaster governing the country.
Afair the Red Cap was very small, down a side street on a corner(?) great to see a pub reopening though tbh i tend to stay out of them these days, good memories working for a crowd just off the Holloway road,they made me and almost killed me at the same time.

The 2 state was rejected yes, but it i'm sure won't be now,it is the zionist agenda not to let that happen hence E1. The world knows this and sanctioning.
I think it will have to be done and could even work if policed well.

likewise. although mainly me own fault. we were different people then, and you wouldnt like london now, imo. its great if you have money. if not its very hard

i dont go in many pubs either, only my mate mitolos, which are very good

if it is done, and i dont think it will happen, although by god i hope it does, if only to end this vileness, palestine will be another failed state like all the rest

theres a big leathery pachyderm in the room everyone is frightened to call out

Bang on, we were invincible and fe ckless, i loved it then though,the small town Catholic yoke thrown off and not a care in the world.I loved London then even if it was the dreaded Newham where i mostly lived.
Not much reason to stay indoors then,4 tv channels,listening to tapes, nah, out if you had a few bob.
i do go there once a year and while a lot stayed the same it has gone v high rise.