Did Burnham just hand Farage the keys to no.10?

I associate the majority of pensioners in the Tory/Reform/Brexit bracket,i think it would be a small enough hit to Labour.
Raising tax would probably have a more detrimental effect to their core voters.
Any 'hardship' however necessary will lose some voters.
People generally accept changes have to be done. Gut saying rejoining Europe in some form will happen,and maybe sooner than later,that would be a bigger issue possibly but could be a Labour gamechanger?

Yes. 100%. The end.

Le Penn may well be the next French President ,Mertz is all but finished ,what Europe are we referring to ?

Farage is a three-legged one trick pony.

Laying Farage next PM is free money.

More political Blah Blah Blah. All meaningless promises that will of course be broken. Nothing

changes.

I don't think there are enough stupid people in the UK for farage to be voted PM.

First past the post is flawed when there are more than 2 parties, but even so, just don't think enough people want the UK to be owned and run by the likes of Thames water or other foreign owned companies.

other foreign owned companies.  Like the Ones Labour are happy to have providing our Windmill Power ?

I wonder who will own all these new Data Centers that are in the Pipeline ? will they be British companies ?

Are those foreign owned windmill companies running the UK ToN?


would you like a foreign owned windmill company to run the UK?

theres plenty of stupid people in the yuk and peebrain is one

look how many voted for corbyn. i will wager peebrain didnt mention that at the time

its so typical of leftists to dismiss those they disagree with as stupid. they are so convinced they are right it leads them to absolutism and explains why leftist revolutions always turn to oppression

farago is at his high-water mark imo and wont get near it. ditto polanski

i have 2 big gripes with nige but hes remarkable in some ways. few could have done what he has, like him or not. no politico i can think of in my lifetime. and he gets a terrible press. the bbc cannot disguise their loathing and hes treated as a demon by the chattering classes

Busy, would you want a company like thames water running the uk?


all most all the reform supporters on here find the question too difficult to answer, what about you?

wasnt aware they were standing

and i know nothing of this story as i dont consume much media so i cant say much about it

Actually the British state effectively runs Thames Water (along with 15 other water cos). Or at least they are meant to, via Ofwat.

surprised you didn't answer, given you have quite the reputation for opining on a multitude of topics, most of which you know very little to zero about.

obviously entirely your choice etc., and I wouldn't insult you by saying it's to difficult a question for you.

G'luck.

Escapee, ever thought it might just be a ridiculous, irrelevant question ?

It's a difficult question for "team woke right", even busy couldn't comprehend it and completely missed the "LIKE" in the question.

would you want a company like thames water running the uk?

Busyfool29 Sep 26 20:54

wasnt aware they were standing

and i know nothing of this story as i dont consume much media so i cant say much about it

Escapee, ever thought it might just be a ridiculous, irrelevant question ?

We both know it's not the question that's rediculous, It's the lack of team woke right answering the question that's absurdly ridiculous.


Irrelevant?
Maybe your correct, Reform 2025 Ltd voters might be irrelevant as you say.

Maybe others think you just lack credibility as you continually use nonsensical, childish barbs such as "woke right" all the time in order to try and provoke a response.

Thankfully, nobody is biting.

Dixie,i want to see you severely admonish anyone using the term 'loony left' or similar, keep a beady eye out,nice one!

the term woke right came about after flurry of right wingers start suing for hurty feelings, some even waste police time reporting non existent crimes like a picture of a T-shirt meme on social media (Lol, do you remember the tsunami of hurty feels you lot deluged the internet with over that? lolololool, 8647? lolololololll)

The moniker "woke right" has stuck, it's succinct and nail on the head descriptive.

Dixie,i want to see you severely admonish anyone using the term 'loony left' or similar, keep a beady eye out,nice one!

Evening all, bit late to the debate, but...
Why was Burnham talking about changes to the triple lock coming in the year 2030?
Labour only have until 2029 before the next election, so how can they make promises beyond that?

Burnham has revived Labour chances and popularity after Starmer, no doubt imo, Reform and/or Tory alliance would've been a shoe-in for 2029, imo...he's got a similar "good guy" appeal that won Tony Blair 2(3?) elections...promise this and that, worry about paying for it years down the line...
Cannot see any party winning an outright majority if there was an election soon, and not sure who would buddy up with who

lapsy, no need for me to call out truths

Escapee uses this term incessantly in order to try and wind others up, with a spectacular lack of success i'm pleased to say.
Using the term when it has no relevance to the question he is posing is unlikely to garner any reasonable response.

Reg, Burnham can't get rid of the triple lock until then as it would break the current manifesto pledge.

Doesn't normally stop them from doing such things i know

Why was Burnham talking about changes to the triple lock coming in the year 2030?
Labour only have until 2029 before the next election, so how can they make promises beyond that?

It was a device to absolve labour of their manifesto promise to "Sort out adult care" in this parliament, by tieing it to funding from the triple lock adjustment in 2030 they can kick their promise off into the tumble weeds.


They're not called 2 cheeks of the same a4se for nothing.

Agree Dixie, but that would mean Burnham having to carry out Starmer manifesto pledge, which you would think he could break by claiming it wasn't his manifesto?

I was suggesting it was a bit presumptuous to commit to a course of action for a year after your current mandate runs out? As if you were taking winning the next election as read...it's 3 years away, OK to put it in your election promises in early 2029, imo but otherwise too early

Escapee, I was typing before reading your reply
That makes a lot of sense

The triple lock is also being used to drown out any questions from the workers who have had an exact opposite of the triple lock enforced on them at the same time, namely the personal allowance tax threshold freeze.
After 5 years, it's now estimated to be costing full time workers about £3,200 pa (minimum, more if you're on a higher band).


The pensioners are quids in compared to an average worker because of triplelock/tax threshold freeze.

He knows that breaking a big pledge like that would be curtains for him i think Reg.

They are obviously banking on all this feel good freebie stuff early on in his tenancy being enough to get him another term in 2029.
There has indeed been the Burnham bounce, but like Reform i think they may peak too early.
I agree that it looks like a hung parliament as things stand, the only worse thing than a Labour majority would be a Labour/Lib Dem/Green coalition

Triple lock pensioners are not usually typical Labour voters
Upsetting them would not materially affect Labour election changes, imo

Chances, not changes

Obviously plenty of pensioners got so fed up of the tories they didn't vote last time. Starmer notoriously got less votes than Corbyn. If their fuel allowance plan had been disclosed before the election, different story.