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Keir Starmer announces he is standing down as an MP, prompting a byelection in his North London constituency.

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Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 1, 2026 12:57 PM BST
It has been an honour and a privilege to represent Holborn and St Pancras for the last 11 years....
Report Mr Spock September 1, 2026 1:18 PM BST
For someone who stated he'll never give up while he was PM, that twice in a matter of months.
Report saddo September 1, 2026 2:10 PM BST
You can tell if he's lying, his lips move.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 1, 2026 2:31 PM BST
The Green Party has opened the door for Zack Polanski to run in Holborn and St Pancras

“Zack has always made it clear he would like to become a London MP”
Report Cider September 1, 2026 2:47 PM BST
sir shameless, what a grade A weasel. the weakest individual to have ever infected public life in England (a highly competitive field)
Report Shrewd_dude September 1, 2026 2:57 PM BST
What a coward he turned out to be.
Report the old nanny ;-) September 1, 2026 5:19 PM BST
Will Bin Head be running ?
Report the old nanny ;-) September 1, 2026 5:30 PM BST
He said: "I will now focus on other things and that will be international affairs including defence, security, trade and technology in a fast-changing world.

"I will also continue, as I have done for a long time now with others, to work on combating violence against women and girls; that is an issue that matters to me hugely.

The Old meet ups with his EU Mates
Report Kalaglow September 1, 2026 5:47 PM BST
Even more never here keir.
Report Shrewd_dude September 1, 2026 6:05 PM BST
Basically taxpayers money will need to be staffed on a new by election because Sir Shameless wants a higher paid job.

I’m not surprised all the Labour chancers are keeping a low profile on here today.

Porky never been so happy he’s been banned as of today.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 1, 2026 6:51 PM BST
2026 Local Election Results in Holborn & St Pancras [Top Vote Method]:

Vote Share

LAB: 38.3%
GRN: 29.1%
RFM: 9.2%
CON: 8.4%
LDM: 7.0%
CPA: 6.0%
NHP: 1.3%
Ind: 0.5%

*Only 42% of Primrose Hill electorate within constiuency.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 1, 2026 6:52 PM BST
^^^ electionmaps UK.
Report Shrewd_dude September 1, 2026 7:14 PM BST
Donny, what is your thoughts on the cost to the taxpayer of this unnecessary bi election?
Report Escapee September 2, 2026 12:43 AM BST
Labour "should" win this easily... but the norms of old no longer apply in 2026

The greens are alledgedly fielding their current popstar name, Binface might run.
Will a labour no name win it easily against a popstar name?

AFAIK, entries close on Monday with a likely election date early in October.

G'luck if you're betting on this market.




UK - By-Elections -- Holborn and St Pancras By-Election        
6 Runners            £4,559 Matched   



              104.5%   99.5%             
Labour    1.26 1.27 1.28   1.3   1.32   1.33   £3,648
        £31 £16 £10     £1,517 £1,772 £10  
Green Party    3.8 4 4.1   4.6   4.8   5.1   £890
        £11 £11 £10     £41 £10 £15  
Reform UK    60 75 100   200   400   500   £16
        £42 £8 £1     £6 £5 £1  
Conservative    170 200 210   1000   -   -   £0
        £1 £4 £2     £5        
Liberal Democrat    350 360 400   1000   -   -   £0
        £1 £2 £2     £1        
Restore Britain    270 300 400   990   1000   -   £4
        £2 £3 £1     £2 £1      
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 2, 2026 12:51 PM BST
Seems a fair assessment escapee

Maybe labour will want someone with history
on local council,...?

1 Oct seems popular date as that follows lab conference and precedes green conference.?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 3, 2026 11:44 AM BST
Polanski says he's going for it






Smarkets says....

Labour to win the Holburn and St Pancras by-election is down from 80% yesterday to 73% following @ZackPolanski's announcement...
Report blank September 3, 2026 2:33 PM BST
Polanski 35%-36% on Poly, Sagal Abdi-Wali the Labour frontrunner is 44%-46%
Report Escapee September 3, 2026 2:40 PM BST
The market has moved on news Polanski said he is seeking selection from the local green party to stand.


UK - By-Elections -- Holborn and St Pancras By-Election        
6 Runners            £27,972 Matched   



              102%   99.1%             
Labour    1.39 1.4 1.41   1.43   1.44   1.45   £22,480
        £64 £28 £2     £1,487 £4 £22  
Green Party    3.15 3.25 3.3   3.45   3.5   3.55   £5,313
        £15 £24 £50     £9 £19 £50  
Reform UK    170 200 220   490   500   870   £132
        £3 £1 £1     £1 £1 £10  
Conservative    460 600 1000   -   -   -   £9
        £1 £1 £14              
Liberal Democrat    500 600 1000   -   -   -   £1
        £1 £2 £16              
Restore Britain    50 400 600   -   -   -   £37
        £87 £1 £1              
Report blank September 3, 2026 2:47 PM BST
My book is +£5 Lab/Green, +£1K any other, was hoping Binface would stand and the independent that finished second last time, but just seen the latter say on X that he isn't standing this time.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 3, 2026 3:20 PM BST
Lay refuk for 2 squids and hope mad restore backer turns up...
Report blank September 3, 2026 3:46 PM BST
Could do, think I'll wait a week or so and then lay refuk or try and dutch back Lab/Green. If Restore go mad backing their candidate here then they wont be taken as seriously if they want to pull off the same op in somewhere like clacton.
Report the old nanny ;-) September 3, 2026 6:37 PM BST
Zack Green tooth confirms he will stand
Report sageform September 4, 2026 8:35 AM BST
Not interested in betting on it but as mentioned below, it is another cost to taxpayers and most likely another anti british MP in the house.
Report Cider September 4, 2026 8:51 AM BST
Swapping one out for another one in this instance, to be fair.
Report alun2005 September 4, 2026 9:30 AM BST
No-one will see any ostensible difference in swapping Starmer for a Somali immigrant.

The Progressive Left's wet dream of an Islamic Prime Minister running this country grows ever closer.

Who will protect us from Islamic Terrorism? Certainly not the current Prime Minister or his Home Secretary. And Londoners can completely forget about protection.
Report the old nanny ;-) September 4, 2026 12:33 PM BST
London in a Shocking State TBH , Zack Green could go well
Report yak hunt September 7, 2026 2:46 PM BST
An independent candidate received 18.9% of the vote in the 2024 General election. Anti Starmer?, Anti Labour? Dunno.
Report yak hunt September 7, 2026 2:47 PM BST
Clearly a two horse race though. As usual, Reform don't count.
Report Cider September 7, 2026 3:10 PM BST
Someone tell him about the last one Plain
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 7, 2026 6:12 PM BST
Keep backing refuk in the 2 horse race, if you want, layers love it.

Seems to be a little discord in green ranks with a few of the local councillors wanting one of their own to stand, over polanski

Vote for greens is this week, and by election set for 8 October.

Green party conference is 2-4 October so not holding
ballot on 1 October surprised me.

Parties usually get a bounce in polls after conference.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 7, 2026 6:13 PM BST
Polling suggests Polanski wins local vote, BTW.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 7, 2026 6:14 PM BST
To become candidate.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 8, 2026 3:11 PM BST
Labour shortlist in Holborn & St Pancras: Sagal Abdi-Wali (council leader since May), Camron Aref-Adib (Cabinet member for finance), Nasrine Djemai (Cabinet minister for housing).

From twitter
Report pandora1963 September 8, 2026 4:02 PM BST
The names of those shortlisted will trigger a few of the usual suspects 1.01
Report DixieDean60 September 8, 2026 4:09 PM BST
Well it seems to have got a baiter like you going pandy Laugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 8, 2026 4:33 PM BST
Just the usual idiot so far Pandora.
Report Escapee September 8, 2026 4:46 PM BST
UK - By-Elections -- Holborn and St Pancras By-Election        
6 Runners            £47,695 Matched   



              101.1%   99.8%             
Labour    1.38 1.39 1.4   1.41   1.42   1.43   £35,954
        £293 £118 £207     £2 £33 £128  
Green Party    3.35 3.4 3.45   3.5   3.55   3.65   £11,349
        £51 £57 £108     £462 £50 £55  
Reform UK    240 250 270   380   390   480   £229
        £1 £3 £1     £1 £10 £11  
Conservative    430 800 1000   -   -   -   £84
        £3 £1 £5              
Liberal Democrat    500 800 1000   -   -   -   £23
        £1 £2 £22              
Restore Britain    700 710 1000   -   -   -   £56
        £1 £3 £10              
Report Shrewd_dude September 8, 2026 9:48 PM BST
The names of those shortlisted will trigger a few of the usual suspects 1.01

Why not just do a Pandora and start another thread about it?
Report Escapee September 9, 2026 2:56 PM BST
Last week I was thinking the greens popstar candidate would likely beat a no name labour candidate.

Now I'm starting to think labour taking a tiny, but hugely publicised stand against isreal takes away one of the major reasons why labour are losing voters to the greens.

Burnham's still riding high in the polls.


Looking at the constituency demographic and the 2024 results, it's clear they are a politically aware and motivated bunch of voters.


Has burnham given them a reason to vote green?
Not yet it would seem.
Report yak hunt September 9, 2026 3:14 PM BST
I have it at 60-40 Labour-Green just now but haven't got involved as yet.
Report Escapee September 9, 2026 3:25 PM BST

I have it at 60-40 Labour-Green just now but haven't got involved as yet.


Election calculus have it the same, which equates to 1.66 / 2.5 vs current market odds of 1.4 / 3.45

Report Cider September 9, 2026 3:38 PM BST
Burnham's still riding high in the polls.


Do you have access to polling that isn't public?

Would you mind sharing?
Report Escapee September 9, 2026 3:47 PM BST
The polls go against your agenda so you wouldn't believe them.


Have you seen the polls regarding your man?
Take a gander at the pinch of salt thread.
Report Cider September 9, 2026 3:53 PM BST
Not looked at GE opinion polls for a few weeks, until I read your sentence when I did a search.

The most recently listed is you gov, which has labour on 23%.

What is your understanding of 'riding high' ?
Report Escapee September 9, 2026 3:58 PM BST

What is your understanding of 'riding high' ?


I use the widely accepted definition, which definition do you use?

Report Escapee September 9, 2026 3:59 PM BST
From the "pinch of salt" thread, 4th Sept


Who would make the better PM?

Burnham 52% vs Farage 22%
Burnham 50% vs Polanski 8%
Burnham 44% vs Davey 9%
Burnham 42% vs Badenoch 26%

Badenoch 45% vs Farage 16%
Badenoch 39% vs Polanski 20%
Badenoch 33% vs Davey 24%

Davey 38% vs Farage 24%
Davey 28% vs Polanski 14%

Polanski 31% vs Farage 27%

yougov.com


Report Cider September 9, 2026 4:00 PM BST
In this context ie polling.

If you think Burnham is 'riding high', what data are you using to reach that conclusion. As it's evidently different to public polling.
Report Escapee September 9, 2026 4:03 PM BST
Your man's best recent heaad to head result

Farage 65% vs a Dustbin 35%


That poll was confined to the  most refuk seat in the country, I think it probable that the percentages would be reversed in a nationwide poll
Report Cider September 9, 2026 4:04 PM BST
You wrote:

Now I'm starting to think labour taking a tiny, but hugely publicised stand against isreal takes away one of the major reasons why labour are losing voters to the greens.

Burnham's still riding high in the polls.


head to head polling is not relevant to that post.

head to head polling is not relevant.
Report Cider September 9, 2026 4:07 PM BST
my posts just now, have nothing to do with Reform or Farage. This by election has nothing to do with Reform or Farage. You're absolutely obsessed aren't you. Why aren't you bringing in Trump?
Report DixieDean60 September 9, 2026 4:15 PM BST
Our national security cannot come at the expense of Social Security says Burnham at PMQs   Cry

The mask always slips in the end, no way will he cut the welfare bill with a mindset like that.

Also , in response to Escapee claiming Burnham was "still" riding high in the polls - this article in The Independent last week may refute that somewhat

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/burnham-warned-against-calling-early-election-as-ratings-stall/ar-AA2bkdul?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Report Escapee September 9, 2026 4:17 PM BST

head to head polling is not relevant.


As I predicted in my initial response to your request for data, the data goes against your agenda, you wouldn't believe it.


P.S. I was laughing at your claim in another thread that an 18-21yo could work for 3 years (£14k-£19k per year), pay his mum & dad a reasonable ammount for his board & food, have a decent social life and save up £40,000 in 3 years.


We'd love to see your maths on this

Report Cider September 9, 2026 4:24 PM BST
As I predicted in my initial response to your request for data, the data goes against your agenda, you wouldn't believe it.


I didn't realise you were referencing head to head polling. I very much doubt you were. It doesn't make sense when the previous sentence was referencing parties and party policy [capitulation].
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 9, 2026 4:42 PM BST
I'd have had labour much higher chance of winning if election was a week earlier.

Why let greens have their conference bounce
during by election, who has sanctioned that?
Report Escapee September 9, 2026 4:52 PM BST
I don't think it'll make much difference YHTL, the mass drift of lab voters to green has been driven mostly by starmers stance on isreal and his unbelievable claims of ignorance regarding mandy's job.

Green conference is likely to be portrayed as a bunch of people with looney and unfunded ideas by the media.
Labour's conference is also likely to be derailed by a media grabbing event, so maybe the thinking is "Wait until it's fish 'n chip wrappings"
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 9, 2026 4:58 PM BST
Possibly not, but in a tight race it could be the difference.

Possible Labour are far enough ahead to cope, but why take the risk.

You are very much right about stemming the mass drift.
Report yak hunt September 10, 2026 2:51 PM BST
An interesting market could be whether REFUK retain or lose their deposit here.
Report yak hunt September 10, 2026 2:52 PM BST
Sagal Abdi-Wali selected as the Labour candidate.
Report Slicer September 10, 2026 2:56 PM BST
Glad to see Labour supporting incoming British values like Halal food & the replacement of churches by mosques. If MPS paid more attention to the needs of their constituents than wars in far off countries, the UK might not be the cesspit 3rd world country it's become.
Report Escapee September 10, 2026 2:58 PM BST
Every country is a 3rd world country

Earth is the 3rd planet in the solar system.
Report Slicer September 10, 2026 2:59 PM BST
I bow to your superior edumacation!
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