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Council , now collecting food waste , to make Bio Fuel

I'm on board with this , Sounds like a good Idea

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By:
Ell
When: 23 Jul 26 15:53
They've been doing this for a few years.
If you buy unleaded petrol it's in it (that's the E10 Ethanol 10% that's printed on the pumps).
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 23 Jul 26 16:27
Solar, wing and football pitch sized batteries is the way to go.
By:
MALAY
When: 23 Jul 26 18:59
It’s too expensive currently
By:
MALAY
When: 23 Jul 26 19:09
The problem is the big organisation is stating in greenwash policies
Committed to Green
But company that says we will do that but price is much higher than contract agreed.
What big organisation should state we are committed to paying for green but they are not going to say that
By:
Escapee
When: 23 Jul 26 19:13

It’s too expensive currently


The problem is it's too cheap, wind power is about a third the cost per MegaW/H compared gas.

So the oil lobby puts in loads of obstacles to impede and delay, i.e. it takes 10 years to connect a wind farm to the grid.

By:
Ell
When: 23 Jul 26 19:15
Battery storage is too expensive. You'd need an enormous supply of lithium and the demand for it outstrips supply.

The best solution is for lower tariffs when there is over supply in off peak hours, promoting use rather than the need to store it.
By:
Escapee
When: 23 Jul 26 19:27
AFAIK,  Lithium is the 3rd most abundant element in the Universe after Hydrogen and Helium

I don't think we are likely to run out of Lithium.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 23 Jul 26 19:32
Think the food waste is more for anaerobic digestion in a sealed vessel producing methane which is used to produce methane which in turn is used to power an ICE which in turns a Gen to make electricity which is sold to grid and prob at a premium from tarrifs.
It could be compressed to produce LNG but that's expensive and dangerous, although surprised it's not being done.

The  waste will be turned into compost.

Ethanol Bio fuel (E10%) in UK comes mostly from overseas about 30% being made here.

Diesel bio fuel (B5%) is mostly recycled veggie oil.



Direct Battery for wind is one way but their are other options including pumped storage like Red John ect or the one that could be a goer but very expensive is Hydrogen but still early days. They are experimenting to see how much can be mixed with the domestic natural gas network.

A mixture of all will be answer with SMR (nuclear) helping too, expecially in winter when sun wind not in play.

Current nimby hatred of local  battery storage a joke fueled by politics of the silly.
By:
Ell
When: 23 Jul 26 19:56
Escapee
Lithium makes up 0.002% of the earths crust making it the 25th most abundant element at best.
Mining and processing of ores is also hazardous.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 23 Jul 26 20:19
The world's oceans contain a massive, virtually inexhaustible reserve of about 230 billion tons of lithium. Because of this, researchers continue to develop electrochemical and membrane-based technologies to selectively separate and harvest it
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 23 Jul 26 20:55

Battery storage is too expensive. You'd need an enormous supply of lithium


Things have moved on from lithium.

Ask ChatGPT.

By:
breadnbutter
When: 23 Jul 26 21:21
graphene caps gunna bee a big playa and solid state batteries muted but prob expensive.

Thing is the railways have just been electrified when they could of been ideal for Hydrogen, talk of trucks in USA and here but the brochure doesn't mention green hydrogen
Production and storage  costs on the road let alone the costs of the actual vehicles.

Currently hydrogen is silly money per kg in USA and doubt long term it's a goer for transport.Is hard to make/store/transport and for its weight it carries little energy compared to alternatives.

LNG is being discontinued in uk for vehicles, doubt hydrogen is going to take its place.

Deffo has a future using green hydrogen burnt at night to produce elec, think SMR is prob cheaper although personally no fan of nuclear but will be funny when the battery storage nimby's get one via central gov planning for chrimbo.
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