Forums
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
yak hunt
07 Jul 26 15:06
Joined:
Date Joined: 06 Sep 04
| Topic/replies: 2,601 | Blogger: yak hunt's blog
Initial prices on here..

1.22 Reform
6.6 Tories
17 Restore
22 Labour
100 Bar
Pause Switch to Standard View Clacton by election
Show More
Loading...
Report yak hunt July 10, 2026 8:56 AM BST
Some weird and wonderful betting going on regarding Bin percentage vote shareLaughLaugh
Report yak hunt July 10, 2026 9:27 AM BST
Reform hq now firing out emails to prospective canvass teams in the midlands and North to give up on the Manchester Mayoral election and come to Clacton instead.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 10, 2026 9:56 AM BST
Refuks personal attacks on Binface are hilarious.

Got to love how the thickies revert to type.
Report Escapee July 10, 2026 12:03 PM BST

As I said, it doesn't stand up. The only reason that he is 'unopposed' as you put it is that the legacy parties are too chicken to oppose him.


To chicken to oppose Farage?
Utter rubbish.

They're laughing at Farage. LaughLaughLaughLaugh

He's got himself into a right mess, Framing it as the people vs the establishment and it's become
Him, He is The establishment (city trader, foreign £billions) versus the people (Madlad Brit without a plan or a pot to pish in, who just wanted to kick the establishment)



#GoBinFace, #WinItForBritain

Report impossible123 July 10, 2026 12:18 PM BST
If Mr Farage is the people's champion the Pope would be a Jehovah Witness or a Scientologist.
Report yak hunt July 10, 2026 2:00 PM BST
Channel 4 News
@Channel4News
·
26m
Police have reportedly begun a criminal investigation into half a million pounds in donations to Reform UK, allegedly made by the mother of a financier who paid for security and social media support for Nigel Farage.

According to The Times, the Metropolitan Police are looking into potential offences around "the evasion of restrictions on donations".

Reform's deputy leader Richard Tice described the reports as a "politically motivated smear".
Fiona Cotterell has not commented.
Report yak hunt July 10, 2026 2:00 PM BST
Tip of the iceberg with more to come, I guess.
Report Cider July 10, 2026 2:13 PM BST
Can you imagine how devastating this would be for Reform if it was all co-ordinated?
Report Cider July 10, 2026 2:16 PM BST
I guess it must be pretty annoying to have to use this one a tad earlier than planned.
Report Escapee July 10, 2026 2:17 PM BST
If you lived in clacton cider, who would you vote for?

The foreign billionaires or the British Madlad ?
Report Cider July 10, 2026 2:20 PM BST
There are foreign billionaires implicated with the bbc, I seem to recall. Bill Gates is it?

If I was voting, the first step would be to see who was fronting up and wanted to try and win votes.
Report Cider July 10, 2026 2:25 PM BST
Ah yes

Why does Bill Gates fund the BBC?


https://www.charlottecgill.co.uk/p/why-does-bill-gates-fund-the-bbc
Report Cider July 10, 2026 2:26 PM BST
Gates wanted to get a few messages across on the feature, such as that under-16s should be banned from social media

lol, that article was written in early 2025. What a coincidence !
Report pandora1963 July 10, 2026 2:32 PM BST
As much as I hate farage, binman cannot possibly win, if I was a millionaire I'd put the lot on garage to win this by election
Report jollyswagman July 10, 2026 2:46 PM BST
in 2008 when david davis resigned and forced a by-election the other main parties thought it was a stunt and didnt run candidates,

ukip, led by someone called nigel farage, was one of the parties that didnt take part.
Report lapsy pa July 10, 2026 2:51 PM BST
He can do a great campaign, 'Bin the corruption' 'Vote Bin and save the taxpayer £350,000' (Bus needed lol,
courtesy of Newsnight)
Report Escapee July 10, 2026 2:59 PM BST
I hope the boatyMcBoatface social media campaigners get on the Binface band wagon.
Report jollyswagman July 10, 2026 3:04 PM BST
binface gets tedious pretty quickly (and i say that as someone who voted for him in the most recent mayoral election), there is a danger that the people of clacton think the joke is on them.
Report yak hunt July 11, 2026 9:01 AM BST
IPSOS-Binface leads in Clacton poll.

· In a hypothetical forced choice head-to-head, 1 in 3 British adults (33%) would prefer Count Binface to win the Clacton by-election, giving him a 12ppt lead over Farage (21%). 32% say neither. 13% don’t know.
· Nearly 3 in 4 (74%) state that the parliamentary standards commissioner should be investigating whether the Reform UK leader broke parliamentary rules.
· 73% say investigation should continue even if Farage wins the by-election.

Public backing for parliamentary standards investigation

· 16% think Nigel Farage is right to resign as an MP and stand for re-election to parliament in the resulting by-election. 16% think he should have continued as an MP. 54% think he should resign and leave parliament.
· 74% state the standards commissioner should be investigating whether Mr. Farage broke rules by failing to declare a £5m gift received from a Reform UK donor before his election.
· 73% of the public believe the investigation should continue even if Farage wins the upcoming by-election, compared to 15% who think it should not continue in these circumstances.
· Meanwhile, the population is split on whether other parties should field candidates: 32% think other main political parties should not stand candidates, whereas 31% believe they should stand.

Public prefer Count Binface to win in Clacton over Nigel Farage

· When asked about the Clacton contest, 1 in 3 British adults (33%) would prefer Count Binface to win, while 21% prefer Nigel Farage and 32% choose neither. 13% don’t know.
· 69% support Count Binface’s policy of restoring the price of a 99p flake to 99p, and 53% back capping croissant prices at £1.
· However, other proposed policies have more middling support, with 36% opposing forcing rule-breaking cyclists to ride unicycles. Perhaps surprisingly, just 32% support abolishing VAR, compared to 21% who support abolishing the football technology.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 11, 2026 9:11 AM BST
Anyone who resigns a seat then contests the subsequent by-election should be liable for the full costs.

Upfront.

Parliament should be capable of passing such a law in an hour.
Report impossible123 July 11, 2026 10:26 AM BST
I fully concur esp in the case concerning Mr Farage. Mr Farage is under investigation by the PSC for a possible abuse and infringing the proceeds or funds as an MP outside his duty as a public officer.
Report DixieDean60 July 11, 2026 12:16 PM BST
What on earth is the point of a British-wide poll on the Clacton by election ?

Try asking the voters in the constituency if you want the ACTUAL picture.

If it were Starmer/Burnham/Badenoch etc instead of Farage you would likely get a similar outcome nationwide when asking that question.

Nobby, Reform did of course offer to pay the costs of this by election but the rules don't allow it. I agree the rules should be changed for instances like this.
Report the old nanny ;-) July 11, 2026 12:24 PM BST
I have a new BIO BIN , for food Waste , I think BIO bins are a good Idea  , Bio Fuel can help going forward

This Election is not a Good Idea , it is like a farcical side show ,I no longer think Farage is suitable to lead the party

once again we have a man who thinks the Party is all about him , It didn;t end well For Starmer , and it will not end well for

Nigel .. I would probably Consider Voting reform in a Couple years , They need a new leader
Report yak hunt July 11, 2026 12:31 PM BST
Smarkets have some very interesting markets up regarding the Clacton election.
Report MrStrawMan July 11, 2026 12:34 PM BST
Nigel Farage got 46% in the election , it seems there will be lots and lots of candidates standing just for the publicity , it might have been interesting if there was just 1 other candidate for the other 54% to vote for .
Report Cider July 11, 2026 12:35 PM BST
He knows that their plan was to try and nobble him with this charade in parliament, and nobble him with a by election after the media have been able to report the pre-determined outcome.

He screwed up their plans by creating a by election anyway. Which is what they wanted, apparently!

You could argue the tactics but allowing them to play the game on their terms wasn't going to carry on for much longer.

I think yes it is better to try and win the support of Clacton before the kangaroo court. If they try another by election they will look foolish. Obviously losing to any other runners including Fatface will also look foolish. The uni party have debased parliament to a joke since they can't stand losing a fair fight, so it is karma that they have chosen a bin to represent them.
Report yak hunt July 11, 2026 12:37 PM BST

Jul 11, 2026 -- 12:34PM, MrStrawMan wrote:


Nigel Farage got 46% in the election , it seems there will be lots and lots of candidates standing just for the publicity , it might have been interesting if there was just 1 other candidate for the other 54% to vote for .


Yes, this is the crucial question. If a clear unity anti-corruption candidate is identified, Farage could be in trouble.

Report the old nanny ;-) July 11, 2026 12:40 PM BST
I don't think Farage wants to be PM Cider , he is not PM Material ,I just cannot see him as PM

A multi millionaire ,does he really want to be sitting around the HOC listening to a load of Pony for 5 years ?

Why would he ?
Report sageform July 11, 2026 12:57 PM BST
Makerfield. A sitting MP who is well liked is ousted to make way for a sitting mayor in order for him to become Prime Minister.
Clacton. Sitting MP resigns and decided to stand for re-election.
Neither looks good for democracy from where I am sitting. Both equally dismissive of the will of their electorates.
Report Cider July 11, 2026 1:01 PM BST
Maybe not a full term nanny, but he recognises that he is the only person that could win a general. I always thought that he saw Zia as taking over at some point.

If Reform do win a general, all the big work will need to be done within a year. After that he could still be a consultant type role in the HoL maybe.

A long long way off and as I said many years ago, they will do anything they can to stop him, and even if he became a PM, more than half of the blob would be actively working against Reform.
Report yak hunt July 11, 2026 1:08 PM BST

Jul 11, 2026 -- 12:57PM, sageform wrote:


Makerfield. A sitting MP who is well liked is ousted to make way for a sitting mayor in order for him to become Prime Minister.Clacton. Sitting MP resigns and decided to stand for re-election. Neither looks good for democracy from where I am sitting. Both equally dismissive of the will of their electorates.


The Makerfield MP was well liked but certainly wasn't ousted.

Report yak hunt July 11, 2026 2:48 PM BST
One thing Farage has got going for him is that there is a strong chance that he can resolve the UK housing crisis. In the space of just three years, if you do the same as Nigel, everyone will have five homes instead of one, assuming you are given £5 million.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 11, 2026 4:28 PM BST
Big panic inside Reform Party Ltd circles as leaks from their WhatsApp show their own polling in Clacton has Binface leading and increasing his majority over Farage.
Talk of needing to "reframe media focus to immigrants and the boats"
Report DixieDean60 July 11, 2026 4:29 PM BST
yak's attempt at "humour" backfiring as usual - how can everyone buy five houses if there aren't enough being built to buy ?

The continued deflection by labour supporters from the hopeless performance by their inept government is what is in fact hilarious donny.
Over 400 MP's and not ONE of them deemed suitable for the top job. A damning indictment on the level of "talent" in the party Sad.
Report yak hunt July 11, 2026 4:44 PM BST

Jul 11, 2026 -- 4:28PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Big panic inside Reform Party Ltd circles as leaks from their WhatsApp show their own polling in Clacton has Binface leading and increasing his majority over Farage.Talk of needing to "reframe media focus to immigrants and the boats"


I guess that decent, normal voters simply wish someone who isn't corrupt to represent them. Who would have thought it?

Report the old nanny ;-) July 11, 2026 5:40 PM BST
The Bin is 9 on here Donnie LUMP ON
Report the old nanny ;-) July 11, 2026 5:41 PM BST
I had 40 quid on but traded out for a small loss as I seen it was going the wrong way , thought may have been a trade the other way
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 11, 2026 5:43 PM BST
Moderators doing overtime, ffs.


What price do you think he should be, having
failed to hit 3 figs last time out?
Report yak hunt July 11, 2026 6:04 PM BST
Binface should be 1000.0 against any non corrupt incumbent.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 11, 2026 6:14 PM BST
Binface v fox might be a good meerkat.
Report the old nanny ;-) July 11, 2026 6:17 PM BST
A million Donnie .but Who knows lot of people Dislike Farage, if it is 2 runners and they all Decided to vote  to give Nigel a Bloody nose Shocked
Report the old nanny ;-) July 11, 2026 6:18 PM BST
I was thinking along the two runner lines
Report blank July 11, 2026 6:46 PM BST
Think Farage will win easily with about 75% of the vote. 70% leave voting area, Reform and Tories 75% between them last time, reform and Farage are actually more popular now.
Report MrStrawMan July 11, 2026 7:48 PM BST
Yes , the 46% will surely stick with Farage and also will pick up conservative votes , if there is another by-election surely it would be much the same as before if all the other parties stand and dilute the vote .
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 10:52 AM BST
Count Binface vote share market now up on here.

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.260007931
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 4:09 PM BST
"A man dressed as a fox has pulled out of the Clacton by-election because it is “not being taken seriously.” Rob Pownall, the campaigner behind the furry façade: “Farage can have his circus, we’re not going to be part of it”"

Just one fox competing now allegedly, but Mr Fishfinger still thereLaugh
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 4:09 PM BST
That should increase Count Binface vote share.
Report tobermory July 14, 2026 6:21 PM BST

Jul 14, 2026 -- 10:52AM, yak hunt wrote:


Count Binface vote share market now up on here.https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.260007931


25% or more is the highest option. As it is being back @2.38 and is favourite maybe they should have had the option of 30 & 35%

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 14, 2026 6:24 PM BST
Maybe get Binface share 2,if polls indicate it.

But I'd be surprised if he gets over 15%
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 6:30 PM BST
High street bookies going over/under 22% and over/under 25%.
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 6:33 PM BST
Other exchange has 30-40% and over 40% option.
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 6:35 PM BST
It's such a circus that literally nothing can be ruled out, including Farage withdrawing his nomination, which of course will mean that he will not be investigated by Parliamentary Standards.
Report Cider July 14, 2026 6:43 PM BST
post your bets
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 14, 2026 6:47 PM BST
I'd agree nothing can be ruled out, and margins at this point in time are huge.

I just don't see any traction.
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 7:28 PM BST
Another one out! Ollie Granger, an independent candidate has withdrawn.
Report yak hunt July 14, 2026 7:31 PM BST
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.260061335

New market up on here, Reform vote share.
Report twoquidew July 15, 2026 3:50 PM BST
Just checking in on this forum as I'm normally on the footy, I'm on the bin to consign fartage to history.   Wasn't expecting the drift as I've got a few quid on the count. But there's time yet of course anyone piling on? Or not?
Report Cider July 15, 2026 4:24 PM BST
good luck.

only tobermory so far has had the bottle to back up the hot air around Fatface, and conceded backing it.
Report yak hunt July 15, 2026 6:45 PM BST
STARMER: Well, Reform intends to spend the summer arguing with a bin. My advice to everyone is: put your vote in the Bin! LaughLaugh
Report Cider July 15, 2026 6:50 PM BST
Must be the way he tells 'em.
Report Cider July 15, 2026 7:03 PM BST
post the market with your profit and loss, like you often do
Report yak hunt July 15, 2026 7:31 PM BST
I remember years ago, various trades and businesses were advertised in the newspaper in alphabetical order. A scrap merchant used the name A.A.A Abacus in order to have his name listed first for folks to see. That brings me to the by election. The first candidate likely to be on the ballot paper is one Adham Alkhatip, representing the Forward Party, whoever they may be. Now that is probably his real name, so fair enough, but he is always going to be top of the list, which many folks believe gives a slightly better chance of receiving your cross. Next is Count Binface, then an independent who wishes to simply be known as Cap. Next up is Jeremys brother, Piers Corbyn, a couple more no hoper independents then Farage and Mister Fishfinger. Reclaim, Rejoin EU, a couple more independents and probably a loony or two complete the field by the looks of it. A few "Re" parties again, maybe Binface should change his to Refuse or Recyle Party?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 15, 2026 7:53 PM BST
Our directory used to list numerical before initials so
0000A1 and such was a popular prefix

Next year would see 00000A1 jump into first place, lol.

Can't even get a directory these days, and forced to pay
search engines to get prime position.
Report yak hunt July 16, 2026 8:52 AM BST
One of the best markets recently. Count Binface share of the vote percentage is all over the place, with more companies adding markets now.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 17, 2026 9:20 PM BST
A total of34 candidates are standing in the by-election, which is believed to be a record for a parliamentary election. The previous record is understood to have been 26 candidates, set at the Haltemprice and Howden by-election in July 2008.

The candidates for the Clacton constituency are:

·       Joseph 77 (Independent)

·       Adham Alkhatip (The Forward Party)

·       Count Binface (Count Binface Party)

·       Nick The Incredible Flying Brick (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)

·       Tony Cane (Independent)

·       Woke Trump Carrzee (Independent)

·       William Stuart James Clouston (Social Democratic Party)

·       Rees Cowne (Independent)

·       Glenn Charles Cummings (Independent)

·       Martin Davies (Freedom Alliance - Real People, Real Alternative!)

·       Andy Erlam (Independent)

·       Nigel Farage (Reform UK)

·       Attieh Fard (Independent)

·       Laurence Fox (The Reclaim Party)

·       Tony Francis (Independent)

·       Robin Green (Independent)

·       Abi Hookway (Independent)

·       Howling Laud Hope (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)

·       Stephen Richard Ingram (Independent)

·       Amy Morris (Independent)

·       Derrick Norbert Morris (Independent)

·       Michael Noel O'Keeffe (Independent)

·       Martyn OBrien (Independent)

·       Nick Pelas (Independent)

·       Ketankumar Pipaliya (UK VOICE safer and stronger UK)

·       Daniel Pocock (Independent)

·       James Ransley (Consensus Party Candidate)

·       Gerry Smith (Independent)

·       Kai Stephens (British Democrats)

·       John Stevens (Rejoin EU)

·       Baron Von Thunderclap (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)

·       Pamela Walford (Independent)

·       Marcus White (Everyone is God Party)

·       Marc Wilkinson (Independent)

With the list of candidates now finalised, preparations can begin for ballot papers to be prepared, printed and distributed ahead of polling day.

Could do with top 10 and top 20 markets
Report Escapee July 17, 2026 9:26 PM BST

Baron Von Thunderclap (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)

Nick The Incredible Flying Brick (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)


I've never seen an election where 2 candidates from the same party are listed, I guess a party can field as many candidates as they like.

Report Escapee July 17, 2026 9:30 PM BST

Woke Trump Carrzee (Independent)


Laugh

Report DixieDean60 July 17, 2026 10:12 PM BST
escapee - You missed Howling Laud Hope , the third candidate for the loony party
Report tobermory July 17, 2026 11:39 PM BST
looks like they need to raise the required deposit
Report yak hunt July 18, 2026 8:52 AM BST
34 candidates is a new record. Only one of them was being backed steadily and consistently all day yesterday and it wasn't Farage.
Report impossible123 July 18, 2026 11:00 AM BST
The number of Independents must be a record too. For once their deposit would probably be returned. I think the turnout will be a record low too as most voters will not want to be part of Mr Farage's political charade.

Let's hope Mr Farage gets a result he never forgets.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 18, 2026 11:42 AM BST
Top 3 meerkat would be good, and

or a without farrage and binface




Top monster raving loony would be good too

Somebody deffo bricking it...
Report Cider July 18, 2026 12:34 PM BST
poor old k hunt, still too chicken to admit to a bet. keeps his waffle up though, to be fair.
Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 4:29 PM BST
Anybody think Reform will not win Clacton on August 13?
Report yak hunt July 18, 2026 4:36 PM BST

Jul 18, 2026 -- 4:29PM, Henry VIII wrote:


Anybody think Reform will not win Clacton on August 13?


It comes down to whether there is a candidate who is clearly the only challenger to Farage. If that happens, yes, it is possible that Reform do not win.

Report Cider July 18, 2026 4:56 PM BST
Where would we be without such insight.
Report MrStrawMan July 18, 2026 5:16 PM BST
It is a farce , i expect farage will win with a very low turnout , it might have been an interesting contest with just farage and a single anti farage contender , but with 33 contenders they will just dilute the vote and get a handful of votes each , i have never got why anyone would want to waste their time and vote for one of them when they know they will get a few votes .
Report Cider July 18, 2026 5:38 PM BST
Why is it a farce. His political enemies, ie the establishment think that the gift he received before he had anything to do with parliament broke the rules. The biggest sanction he can be given is a suspension leading to a by election. So he cut the kangaroo court and delay tactics, and handed them the by election they crave.

Their response to that, as one, is to chicken out.

It is far from ideal, but he disrupted their plot. Which is why they are so upset, even though he gave what they wanted earlier than they expected.
Report Cider July 18, 2026 5:42 PM BST
Kemi has not perfected the art yet, every now and again she lets the cat out of the bag. She said she doesn't want to participate in this by election, she wants to wait for the real one.

How exactly do you know there is going to be another one. And why is it different to the first one.

lol
Report Cider July 18, 2026 5:53 PM BST
As if, in real life, you'd give up the opportunity to get rid of your arch enemy. The person blocking your path to power.

The only reason you would do that is if you were very secure in the knowledge that a better chance has already been arranged.
Report blank July 18, 2026 7:31 PM BST
I think they have just chickened out. It might be tough to get a recall petition passed now if one is triggered.
Report Cider July 18, 2026 7:52 PM BST
badenoch reminds me of a £ shop Boris. In private she is another wet one nation tory cab off the rank. but every now and again, she provides some red meat to make herself seem like a proper small c conservative. Yes she has good historic form on the gender nonsense, that is not exactly difficult though. And not much else. I didn't bother watching it or else I'd risk vomiting, I'm led to believe she gave 2tk a very nice send off at PMQs. They're all pals really, laughing at the rest of us.
Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 7:53 PM BST

Jul 18, 2026 -- 4:36PM, yak hunt wrote:


Jul 18, 2026 --  4:29PM, Henry VIII wrote:Anybody think Reform will not win Clacton on August 13?It comes down to whether there is a candidate who is clearly the only challenger to Farage. If that happens, yes, it is possible that Reform do not win.


Too late for a challenger that stands out now (except Binface which doesn't count). It's almost like the uni-party want him to win. Maybe they think more sleaze will come out over the next few years and he'll sink Reform. Otherwise it makes no sense not to oppose him with a serious contender. Also the 33 or 34 on the ballot dilute any hope of an independent standing and getting any airtime.

Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 7:57 PM BST
Cider you seem to suppport him. I like the idea of a new party (although I think Brexit was a disaster) and a straight talking guy but Farage himself is surely just a sleazebag.
Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 8:00 PM BST
Interesting idea, (or crazy, depending on your viewpoint) that he's also Andew Wakefield with the same wife:
https://xdisciple.blogspot.com/2016/08/vaxxed-andrew-wakefield-fraud-is-nigel.html
Report Cider July 18, 2026 8:01 PM BST
Why do you think there was a co-ordinated effort from the legacy media and the traditional parties to try and make Fatface famous?

I'd venture 1 in 100 people knew who it was or what it represented before the by election furore started. More regular people would have heard of the MRLP. You only get that kind of co-ordination if these supposed enemies and people nominally tasked with scrutinising politicians are working together.
Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 8:02 PM BST
Just want to be sure - Is Fatface Binface?
Report Cider July 18, 2026 8:03 PM BST
Ah that's right, he's an oxbridge reprobate and bbc employee, and one of them. Well known on the dinner party circuit no doubt, all in on the 'joke'
Report Cider July 18, 2026 8:04 PM BST
yes, I've Christened him Fatface. As he has a very fat face.
Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 8:08 PM BST
Farage basically is one of them, that's why he's so useless and not a serious threat. He'll likely win on 13/8 but his standing is in freefall. He hardly attended EC Parliament, he's hardly attended UK Parliament, he's now become unpleasant and belligerent in interview, and he won't even allow democracy in his party which he's made his private Ltd company.
Report Cider July 18, 2026 8:09 PM BST
No I don't think Farage is a sleazebag and has identified nearly all of the underlying issues. And has been consistent on the big picture, big ticket items for many years.

Nobody is perfect and he has made several errors. He had to get rid of Lowe for example, but they way it was done was very silly and hypocritical.
Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 8:13 PM BST
The press obviously had an interest in Binface, no need for any "co-ordinated effort". He's no threat.
Report Cider July 18, 2026 8:15 PM BST
A lot of that is just swallowing the liberalist narrative. none of the party leaders just sit in parliament for debates, they are only there if they have to be. it's a complete waste of time, and this parliament in particular, 2tk and the speaker have made PMQs an embarrassment.

They made his Farage's family vulnerable, and then denied it. Every right to be angry (and some).

Not sure what you mean by allowing democracy in his own party. Obviously nobody is going to challenge Farage for leadership. And they have to mitigate for the very real risk of people obtaining a vote just to sabotage the party.
Report MrStrawMan July 18, 2026 8:19 PM BST
I am looking at it from an election point of view , farage will win and there will be a near endless stream of joke candidates on the stage being cheered for picking up 7 votes .
i have no political bias , i think they are all basically the same talentless people that just want the best for themselves not the country .
Report Cider July 18, 2026 8:23 PM BST
I have very little hope of reform being able to achieve anything if there was a fair GE, and they won power. Just look at all of the stakeholders that would be working against them. All of them. quangos, councils, mayors, civil service, Lords, legacy media, judiciary, supreme court, lawfare, the EU, unions, nhs, doctors, the city, BoE. US if it's democrats again. It would be carnage.

But we can't go on as we are now, so something has to break it up.
Report Cider July 18, 2026 8:25 PM BST
Oh, of course, schools and universities. They might be supported by frontline police, not the chiefs that have gone through the grinder.
Report Henry VIII July 18, 2026 8:59 PM BST
I've got a friend who describes himself as a failed politician. (He succesfully lets a handful of properties he owns so he's basically very succesful but his interest has always been politics).

He's been in all parties, inclucing Reform, and currently wasting his time in Restore. He said that in Reform good candidates very rarely get picked to stand. It all has to go through Farage who picks degenerates. Restore the same - I believe the utterly chanceless Restore was just created to weaken Reform. He finally twigged that degenerates are picked on purpose.

That's quite a change of mind for someone who's a gullible non player character who normally can't see something in front of his nose.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 18, 2026 9:13 PM BST
Always the victim

Get the excuses in early

Get farrage investigated and recalled, if he wins this farce.

Then have a proper by election.
Report Cider July 18, 2026 10:21 PM BST
Infamously labour have 400+ MPs, and had to crow bar in someone who wasn't even a MP to be their leader.

Obviously I have no idea what your friend's experience is, but selecting a candidate isn't just choosing for Reform, but choosing people who will be able to stand up to the scrutiny only Reform candidates receive, without snapping. Lowe himself was a prime example, highly competent, qualified, but consistently overstepped the mark and used language that could be weaponised. It's what a lot of Reform supporters don't understand, to get into power requires pragmatism. They need to appeal to the people who are sceptical. They need some hard liners in the party but also moderates. Not in policy as that should be consistent, but in conduct and communication.
Report Escapee July 19, 2026 1:28 AM BST
Cider, you seem very keen on a Limited Company running the UK instead of a grass roots based 'political' party.


Would you vote for pepsi/tesla/amazon? or

A) Do you check at companies house to see how much of the company is owned by UK residents / who the foreign investors?

B) Not bothered who owns the company that runs/owns the UK?

C) Don't care about the UK, stop the boats, jail people without money etc.
Post Your Reply
<CTRL+Enter> to submit
Please login to post a reply.

Wonder

Instance ID: 13539
www.betfair.com