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Escapee
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To protect themselves from yet another NEW HIGHEST UK TEMERATURE RECORD over the next few days.


Drill baby Drill.
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Report Busyfool June 21, 2026 10:32 PM BST
at least the tin foil will deflect the heat and avoid boiling their brains

they will point to the heatwave in the 70s and say its cyclical an that weve been hot and cold many times through history. which is true

but that tokk a long time, 1000s of years, not massive shifts in succession with floods fires mass melting of icecaps and glaciers, heatwaves, all at once and all unprecedented and scientific unanimity

even putin and xi dont dispute it
Report Cider June 21, 2026 11:13 PM BST
The UK has successfully halved its greenhouse gas emissions compared to 1990 levels, officially becoming the first major economy to reach this milestone while significantly growing its economy.

=

NEW HIGHEST UK TEMERATURE RECORD

Happy
Report Cider June 21, 2026 11:16 PM BST
I'm sure there's some logic in there. Somewhere. The temperature is inversely proportional to emissions?
Report Cider June 21, 2026 11:33 PM BST
The highest officially recognized air temperature in Ireland is 33.3°C (91.9°F), recorded at Kilkenny Castle on June 26, 1887. A quick breakdown of historical and seasonal records highlights how Ireland's temperatures peak: All-time High: 33.3°C at Kilkenny Castle (June 26, 1887). Highest in Recent Decades: 33.1°C at Mount Juliet, Co. Kilkenny (July 18, 2022). Warmest Night: 19.6°C (Highest daily minimum) recorded in Northern Ireland on August 14, 2001, and widely in the mid-twenties for the Republic. All-time Low: −19.1°C (−2.4°F) at Markree Castle, Co. Sligo (January 16, 1881).

hmmm
Report BennyBinion1 June 22, 2026 9:34 AM BST
Make sure you get them record sweltering temperatures from the Heathrow runway tarmac each day!!!!

Sure they will add a few degrees on top for the loony climate change believers!

Give us your money mugs……
Report Mr Spock June 22, 2026 10:32 AM BST
Was this hot in 1976 for 3 months I recall....
Report Escapee June 22, 2026 10:47 AM BST
Did anyone predict 1976?

Was it a random one off year of records or was the 1970's choc a block with temperature and rainfall records like the 2010's and 2020's?


How did all these looney scientists from the 1970's to the 2010's all predict this decade of temperature and rainfall records?
Report Cider June 22, 2026 10:53 AM BST
You don't need to be a data scientist to work out that [apparently] it's getting hotter the more we reduce emissions.

I thought it was meant to be the other way around.
Report Ronaldmcdonald June 22, 2026 11:00 AM BST
It's been much hotter in the past. I wouldn't worry about it.
Report Escapee June 22, 2026 11:01 AM BST
Emissions are still going up.



AI Overview
Climate TRACE releases 2025 emissions data: In 2025, global ...Global climate emissions are still rising overall, reaching a new record high of approximately 60.6 billion tonnes of CO₂ equivalent. While emissions are falling rapidly in advanced economies like the UK and the EU, increases in other regions—driven by fossil fuel reliance and rising energy demand—outpace these reductions


Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:03 AM BST
I'm just using their logic.

Isn't it weird how Ireland's highest temp was 33°C, yet we share the same climate.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:03 AM BST
Emissions are still going up.


Ah, so what we do is utterly irrelevant.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:06 AM BST
In a nutshell, there is no guarantee 'achieving' nut zero will impact the climate (either positively or negatively).

Even if it did, there's bugger all we can do about it.

Tremendous Plain
Report lapsy pa June 22, 2026 11:10 AM BST
The difference between Ireland and UK is the UK is much closer to the continental land mass of Europe, ie you would also get colder winters.
Not a bit weird at all.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:13 AM BST
It is weird. Ireland's highest temperature was recorded in 1887, according to the data I cited.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:13 AM BST
And the lowest in 1881.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:14 AM BST
My times in Ireland suggested to me it could do with warming up, to be honest Grin
Report Escapee June 22, 2026 11:23 AM BST
Weird how these corduroy clad quiche eating boffins all predicted these new weather records would keep being broken.

random luck?
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:27 AM BST
the climate has changed for millions of years, it's bit about to stop if everyone drives a battery powered car.

it's actually completely irrelevant how or why

all that counts is what positive impact self harming your economy will have.

if the UK achieves nut zero, what specifically will be different to how thing are currently?
Report BennyBinion1 June 22, 2026 11:30 AM BST
Lovely summer weather.

A miserable July and August on its way.

Give us your money, and shut up.
Report Escapee June 22, 2026 11:43 AM BST
Put your tin foil hat on Benny, Factor 50 won't protect you over the next few days.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:45 AM BST
if the UK achieves nut zero, what specifically will be different to how things are currently?
Report lapsy pa June 22, 2026 11:47 AM BST
If it did achieve net zero you won't be in hoc to things like the Straits for one.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 11:48 AM BST
I'm not clear that you fully understand what nut zero is.
Report lapsy pa June 22, 2026 12:03 PM BST
The reduction of fossil fuels is probably the biggest factor in net zero,hence the reason i used the 'Straits' as surely you can even see an alternative to reliance is a good thing?
Report lapsy pa June 22, 2026 12:04 PM BST
And by the way you are paying for that now.
Report Cider June 22, 2026 12:15 PM BST
The country will be more reliant on foreign fossil fuels as a direct result of nut zero policy (not less). In fact, that's exactly what nut zero is Laugh
Report Mr Spock June 22, 2026 12:25 PM BST
Its just somebody else’s fossil fuels Cry
Report mesmerised June 22, 2026 1:56 PM BST
There's a massive heat sink at Heathrow that retains all of the intense radiating heat from the swathes of burning hot, large black asphalt runways, sprawling concourses enroute to the airplane, airport buildings etc  making it an absolutely perfect environment to record the hottest temperature possible, our topography is is made up of mostly rolling hills, mountainous regions like Wales, Highlands, Pennines, or a wide open, flat landscapes as it is in places in East Anglia/the Fens, but instead we record temperature on a man-made heat island.

Records have only been kept consistently for around 250 years, yet media are constantly spouting "hottest temperature ever", apparently 'ever' started in around 1772. What was the daily/monthly/yearly fluctuations, and record high temps long before that when the Beaker people were mooching around the island, or the Neolithic farmers before them, or even further back to the Mesolithic hunter gathers. The Celts might have something to say about how hot it was during their time as well and the Roman Briton's that followed them.

There's barely any context given by reporters, 250 years does not even qualify as a snapshot of time, it's an insignificant arbitrary number.

Having said all that, Man made climate change is still definitely real, but there' no point in worrying yourselves about it, there's nothing you can do, cutting down on your short car journeys is chocolate teapot stuff. China are not slowing down their greenhouse gas emissions output despite targets they may have agreed to, they are determined to become the biggest economy in the world, and they account for nearly a third of all emissions globally, America second on that list, they have a MASSIVE highway network infrastructure with little to no high speed trains in operation meaning they're always going to have a huge reliance on personal vehicles.

These electric cars themselves have batteries producing emissions during manufacturing and use fossil fuel grids to charge them, probably cleaner still over it's lifetime using them but massively mis-sold as being great for the environment. Then there's the centre's used by these growing power hungry AI companies as well driving up emission rates.

Unless China-India-America reach a point where they're actually serious about reducing greenhouse gasses then conversations here or anywhere are largely futile, and our Green policies are nothing more than just token gesture, sound-bite stuff aimed at fooling the uninitiated.

Kind Regards.
Report sageform June 22, 2026 2:17 PM BST
Thought you were rerferring to Andy Burnham when I read the header. As I understand it he is pretty green in policy terms but he might be more pragmatic when he sees the data. Meanwhile I am in my office in an old stone house in Somerset where it is about 19 degrees without any air conditioning.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 22, 2026 7:01 PM BST
couple of days down by the Coast  Sea breeze  26 c , kids in school  very peaceful ,Lovely

G luck with that Down south

Report breadnbutter June 22, 2026 7:08 PM BST
Climate change deniers?

This is false label, there is no such thing, there is some discussion on the reasons for change and what is man induced and what is natural cycle.

Recent Triple dip and current ENSO phase have  not been explained, nor has recent sudden increase in solar activity.

If you don't have cloud cover and sun output is high, it's going to be warm, is cloud cover down to co2 increase or are other things at play?

Never heard anyone denying the climate is changing, the Westher is changing but a hot day around summer solstice doesn't mean climate change imo.

When does sea level rise start and where can it be seen?
Coastal erosion doesn't count BTW.

For every ship on/under the water there is displacement, all coastal land reclaimed, all the sediment washed out to sea,tectonic plate shift  ect ect yet no measurable rise as claimed by your heavily funded scientific lobby.

Not a denier of global warming but unsure if it's all down to co2 increase. It might be.


As for electric vehicles, they not the enemy.
Biggest miselling was diesel by a county mile, although the changes have been too rushed, helped no one and ordinary folk are paying for it all, uk a very expensive place to live.
Don't get me started on state of roads, the reliance on tax from vehicles as a whole, ved and fuel duty is crazy, state of roads tells you all you need to know about how politicians view the motorist.
And only going to get worse, heavy electric vehicles need a good surface or the running costs are going to be very heavy, does the gov think the motorists can just suck it up and absorb these costs too.

They going to tax ordinary folk off the road, that is plan.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 23, 2026 12:04 AM BST
Some natural change and 8.5 billion folks now on the the planet .. As for cheap clean energy  which can be the only excuse for the Insane push in the UK ..Don't hold your Breath

Many countries have spent billions on Green Business over the last few years , guess what its making no difference , any guesses when it will ?
Report dpm June 23, 2026 5:14 AM BST
Breadnbutter, completely agree.
Report sageform June 23, 2026 9:54 AM BST
There are extreme views on both sides. It is the rate of change in climate that is claimed to be due to humans and none of the plans will change that. The only solution is less people and a lower standard of living. The number of car miles, truck miles. air miles etc. go up at a faster rate than the population as people expect more travel distances to work, holidays, football matches and even stag and hen nights 1000 miles from home. The sporting fraternity alone must account for quite a lot as football, rugby and cricket teams, golf and tennis players plus an entourage of hangers on fly to a new event nearly every week of the year etc. And that is before you start on the football fans.
There is no doubt that towns create local climate change. The average annual temperature in a large city is 2 or 3C above the surrounding countryside. That has to be solely down to human activity.
Report Cider June 23, 2026 10:09 AM BST
Extreme is irrelevant really. Just got to distil the facts. And it is a fact that whatever the UK does won't impact the weather or the climate. The end.
Report Cider June 23, 2026 10:12 AM BST
I asked Escapee who has avoided the question twice. Another other proponent of nut zero can respond in his stead if they feel able.

When the UK reaches nut zero, what will be specifically different to how things stand now?
Report Escapee June 23, 2026 10:41 AM BST

When the UK reaches nut zero, what will be specifically different to how things stand now?


Cider, you're either a climate change denier or you're not.


Individual countries like the UK half hearted attempts at unilateral Nut Zero are futile, as pointless as a
passenger on the titanic trying to save themselves by bailing out their own cabin.

Report Cider June 23, 2026 10:45 AM BST
#4

When the UK reaches nut zero, what will be specifically different to how things stand now?
Report Escapee June 23, 2026 10:47 AM BST
why are you asking me?
Report Cider June 23, 2026 11:05 AM BST
It seems like you are a proponent of reducing emissions. Most people on that pill use nut zero as the lever.

If you are not proposing nut zero, what exactly are you advocating for? And what specifically will be different to the current situation?
Report Escapee June 23, 2026 11:31 AM BST
I don't believe humans are capable of working together in the numbers and unity required to prevent the ongoing man made climate change.

The current solutions are not going to work.

I don't think there is a solution that will work, so I have not proposed any solutions.


UK's (and probably most other countries) Nut Zero policies have been shaped by billionaires for the benefit of billionaires.
They will not make any difference to the speed of climate change.


I'm not advocating for anything, as I don't believe individual humans and countries can make a tangible difference, And the world is never going to work together.

However, Wind and solar power is much cheaper and cleaner than fossil fuel power, so I would say that's a win win.

Let's build a load of wind and solar power. Jobs and cheaper electricity, what's not to like?
Report sageform June 23, 2026 11:35 AM BST
Fortunately there is a financial incentive to use less energy and as an 82yo mean old sod, I take advantage of as many as I can although I draw the line at electric cars. As for public transport, it is only of use to urban dwellers. If I want to get to the nearest town there are 2 morning buses through the village which don't stop within a mile of any of the places I might want to visit and the return bus is 4 hours or more later. I do have the computer and TV on quite a lot but don't drive much these days.
Report BennyBinion1 June 23, 2026 12:42 PM BST
The weather is getting a degree or two hotter in the SUMMER!!

And???

Be afraid! Don’t go out. Don’t enjoy yourself.

And give us more money in your taxes to beat this….

And the village idiots go along with it and believe these fools in power…
Report BennyBinion1 June 23, 2026 12:51 PM BST
What are ‘they’ going to be scaring the sheeple with in next few weeks when it’s 18 degrees and raining in July?
Report Cider June 23, 2026 12:51 PM BST
wind and solar are absolutely not cheaper, and obviously erratic.

if superior technology comes along, it doesn't need to be compelled into use by law. people didn't stop using Blackberrys as it was commanded by government.
Report clouded leopard June 23, 2026 2:12 PM BST
Cracking tan here

Long may this hot weather continue Cool
Report DancingBraveTheBest June 23, 2026 2:20 PM BST
Agreed cl.....really enjoying it....pottering about in garden....long may it continue.....i remember i think it was 1976.....went on for weeks and weeks....water was only on for an hour in morning and hour in evening and we had to fill the bath and use that water for everything.....anyone else remember it???
Report Shaboombaby June 23, 2026 2:33 PM BST
First time on this subject no expert but the planet we call earth has heated up and cooled down since it pop out of the big bang not sure that a couple of days of very warm weather in Bradford proves this, but i can see how some people think the world as we know it is ending.
Report DixieDean60 June 23, 2026 3:06 PM BST
Dancing Brave - i remember 1976 as i was playing cricket most days, as a medium quick bowler bowling long spells i was wishing i'd been a spinner instead Laugh

From this date in 1976 there were 15 consecutive days where the temp hit 32 degrees. Don't think this spell will last as long.
Report Mr Spock June 23, 2026 3:28 PM BST
I left school in 1976 Dixie, had an apprenticeship lined up with ICI for the September and in those days you could go straight on the dole and get £12 a week. Endless sun that summer and every Thursday I used to go on the Royal Iris disco cruise down the Mersey to Widnes and back. Great times.
Report DixieDean60 June 23, 2026 3:48 PM BST
I left in 1978 Mr S, another good summer from memory, thought i could lounge about for a while so signed on for social security but only got 9 quid a week. Still enough for 20 ciggies a day and a couple of beers, that is until the old man said your board is a fiver a week Shocked.

I soon got a job Laugh Only lasted a couple of weeks (estate agents) and saw a job in Maidstone advertised with General Accident insurance , started there in the September and stayed there 23 years.   I think i said about seven or eight words at each "interview", different times indeed. The world seemed so much simpler then , no mobile phones, Sky TV etc, but such fond memories.
Report mesmerised June 23, 2026 4:16 PM BST
Didn't realise you were of such a fair age Dixie, I was always taught to respect your elders so from now I will treat you with kid gloves instead, now careful as you go ol' Boy, mind those stepsLaugh
Report DixieDean60 June 23, 2026 4:45 PM BST
Yes it's not as though the myriad of posts i've made detailing being around in the 70s and 80s would have given the game away Mes Laugh

But well done on cottoning on at last. Not drawing the state Pension yet, steps not an issue for me, i still walk 30 miles or more a week in the area around the village and beyond, miles away from Chatham Grin
Report Stringvest June 23, 2026 4:55 PM BST
76 Was great summer , so was 77 if you loved the punk scene , brilliant time to live in London LoveCool
Report Mr Spock June 24, 2026 7:46 AM BST
70's and 60's was a great time to be growing up, I fear for today’s youth as they have a mobile phone or tablet before they can read these days.
Report Mr Spock June 24, 2026 7:49 AM BST
*80's not 60's though I do remember a lot of the 60's.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 24, 2026 8:45 AM BST
Cider going bonkers due to tinfoilitus


It's very warm darn sarf, happy to be returning to
cold wet Durham soon.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 10:17 AM BST
Reform UK councillors have introduced a motion to rescind King's Lynn and West Norfolk's climate emergency declaration and deprioritise decarbonisation efforts

The council were going to vote on it on Thursday

But the meeting has been postponed due to extreme heat



LaughLaughLaugh
Report Cider June 24, 2026 10:25 AM BST
'extreme' heat LaughLaughLaughLaugh


Report Cider June 24, 2026 10:26 AM BST
= officials fancied another day at home
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 10:52 AM BST
Reform's words, not mine


Take it up with your uniparty heroes
Report rothko June 24, 2026 11:03 AM BST
If the roads were melting perhaps they could have had the meeting via a teams call
Report Cider June 24, 2026 11:33 AM BST

Jun 24, 2026 -- 10:17AM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Reform UK councillors have introduced a motion to rescind King's Lynn and West Norfolk's climate emergency declaration and deprioritise decarbonisation efforts The council were going to vote on it on ThursdayBut the meeting has been postponed due to extreme heat


What's the source of your quote?

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 24, 2026 12:14 PM BST
Reform UK councillors have introduced a motion to rescind King's Lynn and West Norfolk's climate emergency declaration and deprioritise decarbonisation efforts

The council were going to vote on it on Thursday

But the meeting has been postponed due to extreme heat[/size]


Real reason is they ran out of tin foil
Report DixieDean60 June 24, 2026 12:55 PM BST
https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/uk-households-urged-put-tin-37330070

Tin foil can be very useful according to The Mirror donny Grin
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 1:22 PM BST

Jun 24, 2026 -- 11:33AM, Cider wrote:


Jun 24, 2026 -- 10:17AM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:Reform UK councillors have introduced a motion to rescind King's Lynn and West Norfolk's climate emergency declaration and deprioritise decarbonisation efforts The council were going to vote on it on ThursdayBut the meeting has been postponed due to extreme heatWhat's the source of your quote?


the internet

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 24, 2026 1:26 PM BST
Tin foil can be very useful according to The Mirror donny

Cooking salmon, not for headwear,...
Report Cider June 24, 2026 1:40 PM BST

Jun 24, 2026 -- 1:22PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Jun 24, 2026 -- 11:33AM, Cider wrote:Jun 24, 2026 -- 10:17AM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:Reform UK councillors have introduced a motion to rescind King's Lynn and West Norfolk's climate emergency declaration and deprioritise decarbonisation efforts The council were going to vote on it on ThursdayBut the meeting has been postponed due to extreme heatWhat's the source of your quote?the internet


You wrote

'Reform's words, not mine'

I'm asking you to source that specifically. 'the internet' isn't a source for a specific quote. unless you believe anything you read on the internet Plain

Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 1:42 PM BST
Nope.

I just see through your constant sealioning attempts and have no desire to play along.
Report Cider June 24, 2026 1:52 PM BST
I have no idea what sealioning is, I told you that before.

You made a claim/accusation, I'm asking for the evidence. Otherwise you're just another crackpot quoting made up stuff from twatter. To be clear, I'm not stating it incorrect, but to me it seems far more likely it would be civil servants wanting to have the day at home (any feeble excuse).
Report Ronaldmcdonald June 24, 2026 2:00 PM BST
The loudest voices of people who tell us there is a climate emergency and sea levels are rising have seafront properties and travel everywhere in private jets. Could that be a clue they don't believe their own climate nonsense?
Report DixieDean60 June 24, 2026 2:04 PM BST
The public sector don't need much of an excuse to down tools, however all they've done in W Norfolk is postponed the debate/vote until next Thursday.

More ridiculousness from PoP, all he had to do was provide a link or source (as he would undoubtedly insist on others doing).
But instead he tries to be clever Sad
Report Cider June 24, 2026 2:10 PM BST
To be fair, trying to be clever is pretty flattering, more like trying to be thick. He says it's Reform's words but his Bolded (why?) quote references Reform in the third person. It may well be Reform's words but he may also be making it up.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 2:17 PM BST
https://democracy.west-norfolk.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=151&MId=7037
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 2:17 PM BST
Happy
Report lapsy pa June 24, 2026 2:29 PM BST
It is worse then tinfoilitus,seems to be suffering from 3rd degree mortification as well imo.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 2:39 PM BST
they'll be fine.


We're a lovely bunch on here really. Some reddening of the cheeks is just a climate change factor really.
Report Cider June 24, 2026 2:41 PM BST
Report Cider June 24, 2026 2:43 PM BST
Report Cider June 24, 2026 2:44 PM BST
That's why one asks for proof ;)
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2026 2:46 PM BST
jesus
Report Cider June 24, 2026 2:47 PM BST
Flattery will get you nowhere.
Report DixieDean60 June 24, 2026 2:51 PM BST
PoP will try to pretend he knew it wasn't Reform's decision all along Laugh
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