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The reported 14 points are:

01/   Immediate and permanent end to hostilities on all fronts, including Lebanon.
02/   Mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity.
03/   A commitment to negotiate a final agreement within 60 days.
04/   Lifting of the US naval blockade and restoration of normal maritime traffic.
05/   Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days.
06/   Waivers on sanctions affecting Iranian oil and petrochemical exports.
07/   Restoration of Iran's access to financial resources.
08/   A reconstruction and development plan worth at least $300 billion.
09/   Negotiation of a final nuclear agreement and broader sanctions relief within 60 days.
10/   Iran reaffirms that it will not develop nuclear weapons under the NPT.
11/   No additional US troop deployments or new sanctions during negotiations.
12/   Release of approximately $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets during the negotiation period.
13/   Creation of a monitoring mechanism to oversee implementation.
14/   Final agreement to be endorsed through a UN Security Council process.

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By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 17 Jun 26 15:02
Surely Bibi ensures it falls apart on point one within a week.
By:
tanglefoot
When: 17 Jun 26 17:22
A 60 day commitment,pull other one
By:
Escapee
When: 17 Jun 26 23:48
Surprised the clown hasn't come on here to praise Trump for this deal.
By:
brentford
When: 17 Jun 26 23:57
It's a massive embarrassment for Trump and his deranged, narcissistic lunacy...

The only thing more embarrassing is that within a certain group (certainly not all btw - I know it's standard to assume) of what we currently call left wing politics there's a celebration of Iran getting the upper hand here - and they have...

many head wobbles required...
By:
Escapee
When: 18 Jun 26 00:13
We live in head wobbling times.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 18 Jun 26 08:07
Back to the 'deal' before Operation Epic Fury, never a need for a shot to be fired.
Not so much celebrating the 'upper hand' for Iran really but more a stop to the gallop with Israels 'plans' for the region,nothing at all morally right there.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 18 Jun 26 10:17
When the Betair Nazis can't even talk this deal up it leaves me wondering just who won this war?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 18 Jun 26 10:49
Before the conflict China was buying oil from Iran at $5 a barrel and now it's going to have to be sold to Europe. Great news for Europe but I suppose that's a bad thing if you are a cheerleader for China.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 18 Jun 26 10:55
You really think China and Iran aren't gonna work a way around that?



Have you paid any attention to the trade embargo on Russia in the last few years?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 18 Jun 26 11:03
If they have to supply more oil to Europe it means less will be available for China and it won't be for $5.
By:
Escapee
When: 18 Jun 26 11:28
Magaloons: "Everyone has to pay 50% more for oil to stop china paying $5"
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 18 Jun 26 11:43
Removing the China discount makes the price go up for everyone else? I thought I was supposed to be the clown.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 18 Jun 26 15:42
They should have made Trump sign it at Versailles fot the craic......oh wait!
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 19 Jun 26 08:39
White House postpones Switzerland deal signing after Iran backs out

JD Vance’s staff were at the airbase ready to fly to summit in Bürgenstock for Iran talks before trip was suddenly cancelled




Netanyahu thinks he can carry on bombarding Lebanon.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 19 Jun 26 10:32
Netanyahu thinks he can carry on bombarding Lebanon.


You are seeing which group actually hold the cards

Take note
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Jun 26 10:52
' All of Lebanon must burn' ben gvir this morning, they have lost the run of themselves a long time ago.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 19 Jun 26 10:58
Long before you or I Lapsy

This has gone on for centuries mate
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Jun 26 11:16
Yes CL,there is a potential for peace in the region currently if the Iran deal was implemented well from both sides. A fair 2 state in Palestine needed but not allowed to happen is a lot of what has gone wrong along with 'expansion'.
Maybe if those October elections go ahead it might bring a few change of heads which could only be a good thing.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 26 11:23
Republicans need to realise they are the last people standing defending these terrorists. Israel believe they can carry on and America will always have their back. Needs to be a co-ordinated financial message from America and the Gulf States that they are now considered war criminals and all investment is ended. Bring Israel to its knees, then bring Bibi and Ben Gvir to the Hague, and then you might have a chance of peace in the region.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 19 Jun 26 12:45
Kier Starmer is a staunch supporter of Israel, only imposing token sanctions and trying to stop the ICC prosecuting Netanyahu and his genocide buddies the IDF.

Starmer has plenty of blood on his hands.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Jun 26 12:48
Some of the problem re other countries being 'quiet' isn't Israels atrocities but an American investment backlash.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 26 13:15
yeah, that's why the onus has to be on America themselves. If this carries on the Gulf States' whole business model collapses, America runs out of oil and the whole global economy collapses. All because Ben Gvir is a massive racist who wants to wipe muslims off the face of the earth. I know we've traditionally supported Israel in general but this is pretty high stakes now.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 19 Jun 26 16:16
Which Republicans are defending the Iranian terrorists?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 26 16:19
(to me?) apols, maybe a deleted post I've missed.


I'll let whoever it was who said they were defending Iran answer. I'm saying they're defending Israel though.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 19 Jun 26 16:21
Yes you said Republicans need to realise they are the last people standing defending these terrorists
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 26 17:00
ahh ok. I meant Israeli terrorists, not Iranian ones.




sheesh
By:
Escapee
When: 19 Jun 26 17:01
clown turns up, posts start getting deleted.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 19 Jun 26 17:28
It's only natural to assume you are talking about Iran considering they have funded terrorism for years. I don't know how anyone can side with them. Russia has been using Iranian supplied drones against Ukraine.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 26 17:35
Well I'm happy to correct you.


And I'll let someone who's actually sided with Iran comment on your second bit (might be a while tho).
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 19 Jun 26 17:54
The way you are calling Israel terrorists and not Iran, who are known for terrorism, is a clue to  which side you are taking.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 26 18:14
Didn't know I needed to list all terrorist orgs for the pedantics.


Maybe you've got a list to hand and I can just say yes or no.


Very kind of you.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Jun 26 18:18
Would you think it fair if they were labelled 'genocidists' or something along those lines Ron?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 19 Jun 26 18:53
I don't think Iran's actions to date meet the threshold of genocide.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 Jun 26 18:54
You're right there Ron.
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