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04 Jun 26
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He looked very Nervous , I wonder where they got the Rent an Audience from
 Burnham left everyone in no Doubt , A vote for him is a vote for Starmer out ,will imagine a few who were unsure will certainly be Voting for him .. Good riddance |
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The day cannot come soon Enough , Will certainly be a boost for pubs Nationwide , They will be packed , Starmer out happy hours
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When Burnham takes his place 1.01 Reeve gone
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Big Dave Shifted for the double
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Another well balanced QT audience, lefties on one side and extreme lefties on the other
Starmer's days are numbered, but Burnham could be even worse  |
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You can just tell those people calling him a mysogynist are the exact same people who get upset when a bloke is told he can’t use the women toilets or get in to women’s prisons.
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Farage wants a labour leadership battle so the Labour party eats itself
I assume thats why he's put up such a poor candidate so Burnham wins |
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Burnham is a procession though, not a battle
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If you wanted to damage Labour, then you'd stop Burnham. His frontline career would be killed stone-dead if he didn't win this seat, and Labour would be back staring into the abyss of Starmer v Streeting v Rayner v Miliband.
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.. Something not right about Reforms choice of candidate, Tice was speaking a few weeks ag saying this is a massive election, Reform will be putting up a very strong candidate, and throwing all its effort on winning. ?? Why didnt they put up a stronger candidate ?? Do they have any stronger ??
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Dohh
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The Green candidate did a good job trying to make Reform look wascist by arging the housing shortage not down to a 10 mill increase in past 20 yrs population increase of legal and illegal migration
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Right wing bbc deplatforming restore to give refuk a clear
run at it at behest of ex kgn news boss is another own goal. Oh a plummer can win in Denton, let's create a racist misogynistic plummer... |
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I had wondered why Labour had shortened in the last few days then I watched this. Presumably, that support hadn't actually had much to do with Burnham himself.
Farage has said that Starmer was a gift for Reform. Then he fields a candidate like this. Such an important seat, and the guy is a total loser. The Green candidate was as annoying as you get, but she acted like an attack dog for Burnham. She was only making up the numbers, but he must have been delighted with her efforts. |
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QT no longer has the importance it once had. Viewing figures have plummeted in recent years.The programme will have little influence on voters these days.
People seem to forget that Burnham has already failed twice to become leader of the Labour Party. He is no vote winning machine. It's a given that in most peoples eyes anyone is better than Starmer as PM, but if Burnham does succeed in getting to the top job then his policies will be laid bare to the general electorate. Now the guy is something of a shape shifter, but is generally in favour of even higher taxes so will the voting public go for that ? |
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If Mr B wins we have a GE
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It's not just QT though with Robert Kenyon. It's any time he shows up in public. They need to hide him away. He might be a decent plumber (only 1 review on Checkatrade though) but he clearly hasn't got a clue about politics
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.... It was cringeworthy, even members of the audience were tying him in knots, I still havent seen or heard one credible reason they would let him stand, its mind boggling.
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I don't think it was cringworthy. He was obviously nervous and it was his first time on TV though as you would expect
They probably let him stand because they thought they wouldn't be able to beat a slimy very experienced career poltician who is odds on to be the next prime minister with a slimy less experienced career poltician who is never going to be prime minister and wanted to offer a normal person from the local area who has worked a few different jobs and has some real life experience. Whether or not that works or not at least it's a bit of a change. |
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When the audience were 100 per cent full on weird sneering, nasty loony lefties and the panel all playing the same game against him, what chance did he have?
Their main weapon was comments he made years and years ago. Watch the discussion with that thick Green Party thing about housing and immigration. How on earth can it disagree with the comment mass immigration causes high housing requirements? All it did was sit there and sneer and make faces in disagreement with him. A vile biased lefty show watched live by just an audience of one million throughout the country. |
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You know they are beaten in a debate when their answer contains “loony lefties” whatever that means ? Totally brainwashed.
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Benny, the reform guy was given ample time to speak and put his party policys across, a cardboard cutout would have done a better job, hung out to dry by his leaders.
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the reform guy was given ample time to speak and put his party policys across,
And what was Burnhams policys that he put across? |
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Manchester is frequently recognised as one of Europe's fastest-growing cities for economic output, digital technology investment, and urban development. Greater Manchester's economy has grown at an average of 3.1% annually over the past decade. This is roughly twice the rate of the UK as a whole. Employment growth in Manchester has outpaced the national average, supported by major technology and financial hubs, including companies like IBM, Booking.com, and GCHQ. It attracts the highest level of foreign direct investment of any region outside of London.
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Re Greater Manchester Police. Sir Stephen Watson refused to take the knee and adopt two tier policing (he said they were divisive and everyone should be treated the same), a move supported by Andy Burnham against public backlash. Recently awarded the 'most improved force in the country' after its latest police effectiveness, efficiency and legitimacy inspection in 2023.
Call Handling: GMP has drastically improved its response times, answering 999 calls in an average of 4 seconds. Emergencies: The force responds to approximately 95% of emergency calls within 15 minutes. Crime Reduction: Areas such as residential burglary and vehicle crime have seen noticeable downward trends. |
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There's a reason Andy Burnham is so popular in Manchester at a time when every other politician in power over the last 7 years isn't. He's a great communicator and he's got a proven track record in Manchester
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Thats like saying Boris was great and that was the reason he spent so long in power and won the biggest referendum in UK history.
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Boris was a great communicator and very popular. That's undeniable. More successful than Burnham as mayor. I really don't think so ..
Johnson often claimed he cut London’s homicide rate by 50%. However, independent fact-checkers noted that the murder rate had been consistently declining since 2003, and the drop during his tenure followed a nationwide trend His administration faced intense scrutiny for spending tens of millions of pounds on cancelled or abandoned projects. This notably includes the scrapped Garden Bridge (which cost the public purse over £40 million) and the "New Routemaster" buses, which exceeded initial budget expectations. While his office boasted about completing over 100,000 affordable homes, critics and housing advocates highlighted that his administration altered the definition of "affordable" and significantly reduced targets for low-cost housing during his second term. Meanwhile Manchester city center has transformed, with its population surging from just around 500 in 1990 to approaching 100,000 residents. Critics accused his administration of sitting on reports that revealed toxic air pollution levels across London were in breach of legal safety standards.For a detailed breakdown of his policies, |
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Boris was a great communicator and very popular. That's undeniable. More successful than Burnham as mayor. I really don't think so ..
But more popular that he then became prime minister and won the biggest referendum in UK history? Just accept you are waffling. If you want to try and prove a point about how great a politician someone is based on popularity then you can't just pick and choose based on which ones you like. |
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Full disclosure I asked AI the following questions. The first two were inspired by QT to see if Andy Burnham was being truthful. He was.
1. Is Manchester the fastest growing city in the UK? 2. Is Greater Manchester Police the most improved police force in the UK? 3. Was Boris Johnson a successful London Mayor? |
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Where is the head in hands man when you need him.
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You asked specifically about Andy Burnham on QT. I gave you an answer. AI is succinct and to the point. No waffling. That accusation is a bit bizarre, but then it came from you not me
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I don't really need to make you look stupid. You do 99% of the work yourself.
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AI is a search engine of search engines tbf, it is not
to be regarded as automatically correct imo. |
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the reform guy was given ample time to speak and put his party policys across,
And what was Burnhams policys that he put across? This was what I asked. You never answered it. You basically talked to your chat bot and asked him questions that were nothing to do with what happened or was said on question time either because you wanted to spam the thread with nonsense or you can't read. How ironic that you call someone stupid after admitting that you need to ask a computer for help with posting on a betting forum. |
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Being a Mayor and running the country are two totally separate things, being good at one (or simply popular) doesn't mean you will be at the other.
Boris being an obvious example, so people should be wary of Burnham becoming PM. After all he wasn't exactly an unqualified success as a government minister a few years back was he ? https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2113658/andy-burnham-legacy-never-PM-warns-expert |
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Manchester is a dump, if you point that out on youtube you'll get arrested, and banned from the city.
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It’s one thing for a candidate MP not being able to put any policies across when he will only have an affect in his local area it’s a completely different thing to not be able to do it for someone who is likely the next PM.
When posters reply to questions about what policies he put across on question time with what their chat bot told them he has previously done I think we can presume even they are tacitly admitting they don’t have a clue what policies he is saying he will bring in. |