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SirNorbertClarke
28 May 26 12:07
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Take away all their benefits.

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By:
sageform
When: 28 May 26 12:16
What happened to going round your local community and asking for casual work? I would pay minimum wage plus a bit for any young person willing to do some gardening for a month. Don't hold your breath.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 28 May 26 12:40
Cut retirement age?
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 12:45
labour created a system where people didn't have to do anything at all until they were at least 22, and there's a massive incentive to continue that once finishing 'education'. That is deliberate, the question is why.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 May 26 12:53
Lol, tories 14 golden years coming home to roost.

Tories now in refuk...
By:
paulybad
When: 28 May 26 13:00
Half of them unemployable, their attitude to work is poor, think they can game or social media themselves to a Ferrari, lots of life lessons to be learnt by many of them, won't end well.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 28 May 26 13:02
There is some truth in that ^ Paulybad
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 13:05
That's the thing, who is going to want to do a menial job after attending university. It's doesn't matter that half of them are thick as pig shiit (and don't even understand their student loan!). They've coasted through life expecting to land a laptop class job, without putting in any real work. I don't even blame them, they've been set up that way.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 13:06
No need to believe me, just have a lunchtime browse of reddit.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 13:09
Unlike many on here I would guess, I have had to oversee the training of many of these bozos lol. The ones that actually get work. That have alleged accounting degrees, and know less about economics than Rachel Reeves. You end up basically doing the tutors' job.
By:
MALAY
When: 28 May 26 13:31
I don’t think having lazy thick young dunces is any political parties fault,it’s a cultural thing nowadays, without being harsh it’s actual bad parenting.
Not saying No when they are young, “you can’t have that we don’t have money for that” instead they will put on the credit card, driving to school or football training, get the bus or walk it !

Btw I thought it was all immigrants who were the benefit scroungers, now they are letting the English lazy stay unemployed as they do the rotten jobs, the English don’t want. Who’d have thought ?
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 13:39
Nonsense, all of the political changes went in one direction. Dumbing down education/exams, removing discipline from the classroom, kids getting what they want, expectation of going on the three year party at 'uni', benefits for people whose kids stayed in education as adults, benefits for part timers, importing people to do menial jobs, raining the school leaving age.

I don't think you understand MALAY, not all immigrants are benefit scroungers, certainly my Mum wasn't. But the system permits immigrants to be benefit scroungers, so no surprise they are bees to the honeypot.
By:
MALAY
When: 28 May 26 13:50
I tend to agree with your points cider, probably all them, I might not have put my points across correctly if you think it’s nonsense, but it’s an open forum, entitled to criticise any posts.
We have a saying in our house, No mon no fun, no pay no play.
Worked, what it means get a job and keep it
By:
MALAY
When: 28 May 26 14:00
Cider I’ve read my post and you’re post again, we do tend to be saying same thing.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 14:05
The disagreement perhaps is that this was deliberately cultivated, using politics. You might know, I call it salami slicing. Over a period of time, they chip, chip, chip away. In isolation, you look at a decision and potentially there is a valid argument. But add them all up over decades and we are where we are now. The crescendo of course being lockdowns and literally paying people to do nothing, and allowing the laptop class to 'work' from home.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 14:10
I'm afraid, the threat of a whack from my parents and teachers did help to keep me in line.

I did hear the other day that teachers aren't even allowed to break up a fight as they aren't allowed to touch the kids. Even if it's a bully kicking the 7 bells out of a wimpy kid.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 May 26 14:26
I did hear the other day that saying I heard the other
makes me more able to advance rubbish conspiracy theories
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 28 May 26 15:28
In India they have no benefits of Neets
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 15:43
They aren't called the uni party for nothing. The Tories on the surface had a policy of limiting immigration, what they actually did was engineer the opposite.

It's easy to forget now but a large part of the narrative around Brexit was that mass immigration couldn't be limited due to EU membership. The Tory policy was to remain, and not have that control. The uni party lost the vote, and instead of using the control to do what people repeatedly voted for, they did the opposite.

The question is rhetorical as to why, but it's a good one. Definitely some people wanted to change the culture of Britain forever, that's something they can put on to their (short) list of achievements.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 15:48
They only swung behind Brexit eventually due to getting re-elected, but they never ever actually wanted it. Including their current leader. I do believe Johnson did as it goes, but it wasn't to control immigration as it transpired.
By:
saddo
When: 28 May 26 16:40
Remarkably easy to do then. No wonder claims are through the roof, the system is there to be abused.
By:
MrStrawMan
When: 28 May 26 16:43
When the government says you can earn more working than on benefits they simply dont get it , yes they may get £40 a week more but then they are in their eyes working for a £1 an hour for a 40 hour week .
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 16:46
Over 70% of claims are awarded lcwra. about 20% lcw, and less than 10% FtW.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 16:47
the 10%ers are probably the genuine claimants that don't know how to work the system !
By:
saddo
When: 28 May 26 16:53
Very sad if that's true, and it probably is.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 May 26 18:12

May 28, 2026 -- 3:43PM, Cider wrote:


They aren't called the uni party for nothing. The Tories on the surface had a policy of limiting immigration, what they actually did was engineer the opposite.It's easy to forget now but a large part of the narrative around Brexit was that mass immigration couldn't be limited due to EU membership. The Tory policy was to remain, and not have that control. The uni party lost the vote, and instead of using the control to do what people repeatedly voted for, they did the opposite. The question is rhetorical as to why, but it's a good one. Definitely some people wanted to change the culture of Britain forever, that's something they can put on to their (short) list of achievements.


But why would they want more immigration and more spend on benefits? Why would they think that's either good for them politically or for the country?

By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 18:14
Simples, immigration and welfare inflate gdp.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 May 26 18:29
really. You think that's it?


Gawd
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 26 18:31
Obviously. The blob are obsessed with gdp as that permits more spending. You think they would be comfortable with formal recession?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 May 26 18:32
I fort working gave more cash than benefits

Imagine finding out in my 60s I could have dossed around
on benefits and been better off than I am.

And that would have helped gdp,

All them patriots, down the pub, rioting for farage, boosting gdp.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 28 May 26 19:40
the Covid Capers a big player in all this
By:
paris
When: 28 May 26 19:41
Hardest way to make money in this country. Is to go to work.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 28 May 26 19:43
All kids banged up for Covid seems they Got used to Internet Life

Mind you plenty of Workers loved the Working from Life
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 28 May 26 19:46
What's the Figures across Europe ? Or is it Just the UK
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 May 26 19:52
Fort you was an expert on euro studies...
By:
abba21
When: 28 May 26 19:53
White is the new black
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