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23 Mar 26
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well lets be thankful no one was murdered and buried......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_paramedic_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_paramedic_massacre
ok, thanks for the clarification. Took a while but appreciated still.
And while we're here, can you confirm you'd have no problem with Muslim-charity ambulances on our road too.
And while we're here, can you confirm you'd have no problem with Muslim-charity ambulances on our road too.
And while we're here, can you confirm you'd have no problem with Muslim-charity ambulances on our road too.
No.
In the same way I have no issue with any islamic charity like the aforementioned Islamic Aid.
I suspect there won't be any though because I doubt the charity regulator would allow them to treat potential patients differently based on religion, gender or sexual preference.
I'm not sure why the regulator would allow one and not the other
I hope those ambulances do not simply sit there all day at times of huge workload at weekends etc.
At least you've steered the conversation away from Muslims attacking Jews in this country, porcy. 
Must have been a quite weekend for the stine Marches
Soz, I wasn't aware you'd steered it on to that. I take it you're ahead of the police and have already identified the perps.
Its not solely about whether they treat people of differing or any religious beliefs but also the fact they only cover specific areas and what reason they cover those areas. Taxation goes towards the whole country so regions of greater economic strength support areas that struggle (At least in theory).
By only covering regional areas where certain demographics pertain, it is by its very nature discriminatory.
By only covering regional areas where certain demographics pertain, it is by its very nature discriminatory.
I'm not sure why the regulator would allow one and not the other
The Jewish charity ambulance treats all patients the same as far as we know.
I suspect a Muslim charity ambulance would likely have similar views towards woman, Jews and homosexuals being 2nd class citizens as most of their communities do.
I suppose you could ask them why they haven’t.
The Jewish charity ambulance treats all patients the same as far as we know.
I suspect a Muslim charity ambulance would likely have similar views towards woman, Jews and homosexuals being 2nd class citizens as most of their communities do.
I suppose you could ask them why they haven’t.
"as far as we know"
"I suspect"
"I suppose"
Once again, thanks for bringing such academic rigour to your debating.
"I suspect"
"I suppose"
Once again, thanks for bringing such academic rigour to your debating.
Its not solely about whether they treat people of differing or any religious beliefs but also the fact they only cover specific areas and what reason they cover those areas. Taxation goes towards the whole country so regions of greater economic strength support areas that struggle (At least in theory).
By only covering regional areas where certain demographics pertain, it is by its very nature discriminatory.
We’ve went from banning charities to banning them unless they operate nationwide.
You guys are pathetic.
By only covering regional areas where certain demographics pertain, it is by its very nature discriminatory.
We’ve went from banning charities to banning them unless they operate nationwide.
You guys are pathetic.
Once again, thanks for bringing such academic rigour to your debating
I’m the one giving you facts on this thread about what happened. You are the one talking bollocks and whatabouting about hypothetical Muslim charities.
I’m the one giving you facts on this thread about what happened. You are the one talking bollocks and whatabouting about hypothetical Muslim charities.
It makes sense to use a private anbulance if available.
I was bleeding. It was an emergency.
I was told to be ready for an ambulance arriving at 10:00.
It arrived at 16:00.
In the hospital I waited and was seen at 23:00.
Over the next few day I got transfusions, six bags of blood.
I was bleeding. It was an emergency.
I was told to be ready for an ambulance arriving at 10:00.
It arrived at 16:00.
In the hospital I waited and was seen at 23:00.
Over the next few day I got transfusions, six bags of blood.
You've got it all wrong, kinscem. You should have bled to death,
no one can have private ambulances unless Muslims get them too.
I think that's the jist of the argument.
no one can have private ambulances unless Muslims get them too.
I think that's the jist of the argument.
To spoil the antisemitic fantasies on here with facts. Hatzola ambulances are driven by volunteers, funded by donations from all members of the local community but set up by Orthodox Jews. It is free to use them although a donation is always welcome in thanks. They serve ALL members of the community. They operate in the vicinity of my London home. Someone I know had chest pains in the middle of the night. Was quoted a 6 hour wait by 999 . So he knew about Hatzola, phoned them. 15 mins wait & was at the Royal Free Hospital within 30 mins. All you antisemites boycotting everything Jewish & Israeli, please feel, free to boycott Hatzola in your time of need. The hand wringing of the terrorist enabling politicians at the scene this morning was truly something to see. I don't think too much effort will be used to catch the vermin. And of course more landing everyday on the south coast!
Mar 23, 2026 -- 4:05PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:
Once again, thanks for bringing such academic rigour to your debatingI’m the one giving you facts on this thread about what happened. You are the one talking bollocks and whatabouting about hypothetical Muslim charities.
You're criticising the discriminatory practices of a charity that only exists in your own head.
I know you lads love the kool-aid but y'know maybe try some oxygen for a bit.
I look forward to your outrage when the perps turn out to be Muslims
My outrage will not depend on the religion of the perp. It was a stupid, callous act, no matter who did it or why.
An IRGC terror group in the UK, called Ashab al-Yamin takes responsibility for torching 4 ambulances belonging to a Jewish volunteer EMT services in Golders Green, London last night.
Well I am astounded who would think these people are in the UK , truely Shocked
I womder if the Yamins take part in the Stine marches ?
Well I am astounded who would think these people are in the UK , truely Shocked
I womder if the Yamins take part in the Stine marches ?
IRGC terror group in the UK!
I suppose you get what you tolerate.
I suppose you get what you tolerate.
Mar 23, 2026 -- 2:40PM, paulybad wrote:
Have they blamed, Tommy, a Welsh Choirboy or the Far Right yet ?
The Reverend Tommy has an alibi, he's currently touring America spreading the good word, proliferating his flock and hobnobbing with the likes of Rosanne Barr and Russel Brand. How he gets into America with his record is another conundrum. Apparently his on a 'Journalist Visa', the question is who's?
You're criticising the discriminatory practices of a charity that only exists in your own head.
You were the one who created a hypothetical muslim charity once it was explained to you the practices of the actual Jewish Charity in existence didn't equate with what your warped mind imagined when you opened the thread and jumped in with
What the hell are they? They just drive past non-Jews? I just don't understand.
Maybe try and log off your forums for a while and read a book and you'll come on a bit more clued up next time.
Although from someone daft enough to think any charitable donations should go to the government instead through taxation that's not surprising.
You were the one who created a hypothetical muslim charity once it was explained to you the practices of the actual Jewish Charity in existence didn't equate with what your warped mind imagined when you opened the thread and jumped in with
What the hell are they? They just drive past non-Jews? I just don't understand.
Maybe try and log off your forums for a while and read a book and you'll come on a bit more clued up next time.
Although from someone daft enough to think any charitable donations should go to the government instead through taxation that's not surprising.
Some will tolerate the terrorist infection of the country
while banning private ambulances, (Jewish ones in particular)
while banning private ambulances, (Jewish ones in particular)
jesus, read a book from mr wikipedia
My one post from Wikipedia this year certainly expanded your knowledge on the topic at hand didn't it they/them I just don't undertstand.
My one post from Wikipedia this year certainly expanded your knowledge on the topic at hand didn't it they/them I just don't undertstand.
Don't dispute that I hadn't heard of jewish ambulances before today. Not sure how many books are needed to whinge about an imaginary organisation turning people away though. Maybe in the SF section.
You are so disengenous it's pathetic porky.
You were the one who brought up muslim ambulances that don't exist on this thread in your blatant whataboutery to be critical of the Jewish ambulances.
3 times you specifically asked me my view on these non existent muslim ambulances. Then when you get a reply from me and my speculation as why they don't exist (perfectly valid reasons I must say which obviously you would never attempt to address) you try and suggest I am whinging and imagining organsisations you brought up and repeatedly asked me about.
I hope you're not as spineless a coward in real life as you appear on here.
You were the one who brought up muslim ambulances that don't exist on this thread in your blatant whataboutery to be critical of the Jewish ambulances.
3 times you specifically asked me my view on these non existent muslim ambulances. Then when you get a reply from me and my speculation as why they don't exist (perfectly valid reasons I must say which obviously you would never attempt to address) you try and suggest I am whinging and imagining organsisations you brought up and repeatedly asked me about.
I hope you're not as spineless a coward in real life as you appear on here.
I asked a hypothetical yes/no question about whether you would approve for Muslims to have their own bespoke services like this. You didn't need an invite to be offended by your own concoction. That was nothing to do with me squire.
Who'd have thought Pineapple would be the first poster along to try and downplay the attack 
A religion led/based charitable function is nothing new, is it. Just like this one, they tend to provide their services indiscriminately.
Mar 23, 2026 -- 6:37PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
downplay now
Yeah, so many questions. Firstly whether about this was mindless vandalism or targetted. I'd imagine the latter, but...
But "Jewish" ambulances???
What the hell are they? They just drive past non-Jews? I just don't understand.
yup
No, please do go on. How is that downplaying exactly?
I'll give you a helping hand
Here's the def of Downplay from the OED - To try to make (something) appear smaller or less important than in reality
YW.
Here's the def of Downplay from the OED - To try to make (something) appear smaller or less important than in reality
YW.
Can you name a religion led charity that discriminates in favour of only people of the same faith?
Why would you think this one was different? Ignorance? Prejudice?
Why would you think this one was different? Ignorance? Prejudice?
Feigned ignorance is quite unbecoming, is it a lefty trait?
What the hell are they? They just drive past non-Jews?
Yes this is downplaying.
Most normal people would be asking why other people would be blowing up ambulances. Not who do and don't the ambulances serve.
But, there you go.
Yes this is downplaying.
Most normal people would be asking why other people would be blowing up ambulances. Not who do and don't the ambulances serve.
But, there you go.
Can you name a religion led charity that discriminates in favour of only people of the same faith?
No, I don't think I can. There are religions that work in certain areas but I don't think they necessarily question people to exclude. But again, this was about an ambulance service rather than a charity as my post makes clear.
What the hell are they? They just drive past non-Jews?
Yes this is downplaying.
Sorry, you're gonna have to explain how. I've already talked about possible reasons for the attack and my opinion on the perps, so let's not pretend I'm downplaying by ignoring that eh. My question was simply my incredulity that such a service exists. It's been explained since (thanks slicer), though I still find it a bit odd, though in this day and age of increasingly-private health care I maybe shouldn't be so surprised.
No, I don't think I can. There are religions that work in certain areas but I don't think they necessarily question people to exclude. But again, this was about an ambulance service rather than a charity as my post makes clear.
What the hell are they? They just drive past non-Jews?
Yes this is downplaying.
Sorry, you're gonna have to explain how. I've already talked about possible reasons for the attack and my opinion on the perps, so let's not pretend I'm downplaying by ignoring that eh. My question was simply my incredulity that such a service exists. It's been explained since (thanks slicer), though I still find it a bit odd, though in this day and age of increasingly-private health care I maybe shouldn't be so surprised.
It doesn't make any sense. So your initial thoughts are why are there apparently ambulances for only Jewish people (even though you were completely ignorant, and all of your search engines were incapacitated). Instead of why would there be people willing to blow up ambulances in a middle class part of the UK. You tried to steer the conversation into an anti Jewish one. A rather lame attempt, to be fair.
It's not too surprising that Jewish people have created a reliable service that doesn't rely on the state...
(this was before the ambo attack)
The prime minister, Keir Starmer, has ordered a rapid review of how healthcare regulators such as the General Medical Council deal with allegations of racist or antisemitic behaviour in the NHS. The government will also roll out mandatory antisemitism and antiracism training for all 1.5 million NHS staff and has promised a “zero tolerance” approach to discrimination in healthcare.
The move follows a case in which a British-Palestinian trainee doctor, Rahmeh Aladwan, was allowed to continue practising pending a full Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service hearing into allegations that she made antisemitic remarks.
(this was before the ambo attack)
The prime minister, Keir Starmer, has ordered a rapid review of how healthcare regulators such as the General Medical Council deal with allegations of racist or antisemitic behaviour in the NHS. The government will also roll out mandatory antisemitism and antiracism training for all 1.5 million NHS staff and has promised a “zero tolerance” approach to discrimination in healthcare.
The move follows a case in which a British-Palestinian trainee doctor, Rahmeh Aladwan, was allowed to continue practising pending a full Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service hearing into allegations that she made antisemitic remarks.
Yes, my first question was What? and I asked it here.
Soz if that offended you and that I should ask google before asking the forum in future. Though maybe you should just get over yourself a bit. And again, I covered the bit about Why? Your selective posting and simply ignoring the bits where I've answered the questions you're now asking are frankly comical in light of your so-called complaints.
And isn't the assumption that the crime is an anti-Jewish one? Surely trying to swerve it away from that would be the very essence of downplaying. By minimising the racial aspect.
Sheez. This place ain't what it used to be.
Soz if that offended you and that I should ask google before asking the forum in future. Though maybe you should just get over yourself a bit. And again, I covered the bit about Why? Your selective posting and simply ignoring the bits where I've answered the questions you're now asking are frankly comical in light of your so-called complaints.
And isn't the assumption that the crime is an anti-Jewish one? Surely trying to swerve it away from that would be the very essence of downplaying. By minimising the racial aspect.
Sheez. This place ain't what it used to be.
oh god, no you're gonna have to back that up ya big baby. And maybe take a second to learn how to read and form an argument, and then give it a go.
having your argument ripped apart and then screaming racist is so 2020 darling.
right, food's ready. I'm sure the response is gonna be great but I'll have to wait.
ciao tutti.
ciao tutti.
The IDF killing over 20,000 innocent children in Gaza and now Beirut was always going to upset people.
I think the best thing Jewish people in Britain can do is condemn Netanyahu's Zionism.
I think the best thing Jewish people in Britain can do is condemn Netanyahu's Zionism.
Yeah!... We need more angry Islamists over here please... At the tax payers expense.. To balance things out a little.
£1.1 million donated towards the charity to allow them to buy secure garages for their ambulances.
Cue the "I don't understand. Would Muslim ambulances get their own secure garages if they existed?" posts.
Cue the "I don't understand. Would Muslim ambulances get their own secure garages if they existed?" posts.
Whatever is happening in Gaza, how is that in any way connected to blowing up ambulances in Golders Green 
You actually sound like you fancy firing up the gas chambers.
You actually sound like you fancy firing up the gas chambers.
^^^ every action has an equal and opposite reaction ^^^
That perverse logic doesn't even remotely stand up. What have charity funded ambulances got to do with anything happening thousands of miles away?
This ambulance service is similar to the St John ambulance service which we also have here in Ireland along with the Order of St Malta Ambulance service which are very prominent at sporting and cultural events. I do wonder if some of the posters here actually ever leave their bedrooms. They seem to be on here 24/7.
If you go outside you might actually see some of these ambulances.
If you go outside you might actually see some of these ambulances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatzalah
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The status of the vehicles is the story, not an Islamist attack.
Well done with the spin, porcy.
Well done with the spin, porcy.
These ambulances will also turn up for people outside the Jewish community....as long as it's life threatening and you owe them money
Funny old world. With a quavering voice, Starmer declares “an attack on the Jewish community is an attack on us all” and directs the NHS to replace the 4 burnt out Jewish ambulances. Cue tears. But nothing to say about the 1500 health workers killed in Gaza, many by “double tap” strikes, a sequence designed to kill not only the targets but those racing to rescue them.
Still, it’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good, and what with U.K. tax adding to the flood of donations to the Jewish charity, neighbourhoods up and down the country must be vying to show they have enough jewpoints to make themselves eligible for a Hatzalah ambulance.
Still, it’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good, and what with U.K. tax adding to the flood of donations to the Jewish charity, neighbourhoods up and down the country must be vying to show they have enough jewpoints to make themselves eligible for a Hatzalah ambulance.
At last, one of the haters pops up. I can guess which one will be along to agree with you soon.
'Quavering voice', no wonder, his world is crumbling.
'Quavering voice', no wonder, his world is crumbling.
So a prime minister condems the burning of 4 ambulances on UK soil
Surely he should have kept quiet
Surely he should have kept quiet
Regrettable, of course, but 4 ambulances weighed against the killing 1500 health workers - none of which has led to an arrest - keep the scale of concern in proportion.
NEWS FLASH
A Lebanese ambulance destroyed in Nabatieh, southern Lebanon by the IDF.
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Two Lebanese paramedics died.
Will Keir Starmer condemn this senseless act?
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A Lebanese ambulance destroyed in Nabatieh, southern Lebanon by the IDF.
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Two Lebanese paramedics died.
Will Keir Starmer condemn this senseless act?
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NEWS FLASH
A Lebanese ambulance destroyed in Nabatieh, southern Lebanon by the IDF.
Two Lebanese paramedics died.
Will Keir Starmer condemn this senseless act?
A Lebanese ambulance destroyed in Nabatieh, southern Lebanon by the IDF.
Two Lebanese paramedics died.
Will Keir Starmer condemn this senseless act?
So who would Kier Starmer be arresting for the deaths in Gaza?
The PMs condemned the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza on numerous occasions
Regrettable is a strange word to use I would be more comfortable with the word disgusting
The PMs condemned the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza on numerous occasions
Regrettable is a strange word to use I would be more comfortable with the word disgusting
im sure if the PM is given details of individual attacks on medical and public service vehicles around the world in different countries Im sure he would condemn them
But as this attack was on UK soil perhaps he felt he just might need to respond to this attack
But as this attack was on UK soil perhaps he felt he just might need to respond to this attack
Starmer has made 2500 UK criminals out of citizens who would be more than happy to disabuse him of feigned ignorance of Israel’s practices. Or he could just Google “Substantial evidence of double-tap strike in killing of Gaza’s ..” (an article from three days ago)
What a strange mindset to have.
What on earth has Lebanon got to do with the UK?
Why on earth should Starmer condemn every bad thing that happens in some hell hole thousands of miles away?
What on earth has Lebanon got to do with the UK?
Why on earth should Starmer condemn every bad thing that happens in some hell hole thousands of miles away?
But thats got nothing to do with the attack on the 4 ambulances on UK soil which he would respond to as PM of this country
I thought the double tap strike on the hospital was universally condemned across Europe and the UK
I thought the double tap strike on the hospital was universally condemned across Europe and the UK
i see the PM has called an urgent press conference to condemn the attack on a Lebanese ambulance at 2.30 today
He has numerous press conferences to condemn attacks in other foreign countries every 15 mins till next Thursday
He has numerous press conferences to condemn attacks in other foreign countries every 15 mins till next Thursday
Mar 26, 2026 -- 12:40PM, rothko wrote:
But thats got nothing to do with the attack on the 4 ambulances on UK soil which he would respond to as PM of this country I thought the double tap strike on the hospital was universally condemned across Europe and the UK
Then don’t project the flag of Israel onto 10 Downing St..
Shrewd being deliberately naive
Why not enlighten us all then Nobby?
Why not enlighten us all then Nobby?
Can I say - once again - that I'm not defending the attack. Not that I expect that to be taken in good faith on here like.
But in a world where we have a mosque being attacked the day after the girls were killed in Southport due to unsubstantiated rumours the perp was a muslim, not a regular of that mosque of course, or that anyone belonging to that mosque had any connection with the killing, but attacked just the same, it's not the biggest leap to see sympathisers of Lebanon or Palestine attacking Jewish people for the actions of Israel.
Anyone not seeing that is just not wanting to look hard enough. You're not being asked to agree with them, just to understand that in their minds there is a justification, even if it's misguided.
But in a world where we have a mosque being attacked the day after the girls were killed in Southport due to unsubstantiated rumours the perp was a muslim, not a regular of that mosque of course, or that anyone belonging to that mosque had any connection with the killing, but attacked just the same, it's not the biggest leap to see sympathisers of Lebanon or Palestine attacking Jewish people for the actions of Israel.
Anyone not seeing that is just not wanting to look hard enough. You're not being asked to agree with them, just to understand that in their minds there is a justification, even if it's misguided.
So the attack on a mosque after Southport instigated this?
Synagogues and Jewish schools have had Guards for decades,
I expect there is a particular reason for this, but couldn't be certain.
Synagogues and Jewish schools have had Guards for decades,
I expect there is a particular reason for this, but couldn't be certain.
jesus, no. I didn't say that at all. Please try again.
Shrewd Why not enlighten us all then Nobby?
Shrewd Why not enlighten us all then Nobby?
I think PorcupineorPineapple explained the nature of this attack very well.
Do yourself a favour and read it.And what does that have to do with Starmer condemning something that happened in Lebanon??
I think rothko summed the lunacy of your proposition that Starmer should be condemning everything bad that happens thousands of miles away rather than deciding to concentrate on what happens in the UK.PorcupineorPineapple 26 Mar 26 13:06
jesus, no. I didn't say that at all. Please try again.
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I've read it again, the inference seems just as clear a second time.But in a world where we have a mosque being attacked the day after the girls were killed in Southport due to unsubstantiated rumours the perp was a muslim, not a regular of that mosque of course, or that anyone belonging to that mosque had any connection with the killing, but attacked just the same, it's not the biggest leap to see sympathisers of Lebanon or Palestine attacking Jewish people for the actions of Israel
sorry im struggling with your logic here -
as you've connected the 2 events as similar in their origin what was the unsubstantiated rumours that led to the attack on the ambulances
I see them different
the mosque attack was due to idiots posting sh5te on social media which led the rent a mob who had gathered in the town throwing bricks at the mosque and the police
Im assuming the motive of the pre meditated ambulance attack (has it been confirmed) was that they hate jews and wont to punish them although I doubt the ambulances were overtly ZionistA confederacy of dunces
That’s pretty funny from a guy who spouts every action has a reaction to justify certain actions whilst simultaneously crying about the reaction from 7/10.F^^K it, life is too short. You can join the other simpleton on my blocked list.Good. There's only so much Der Sturmer people like you can read.3 charged with arson.
Hamza Iqbal, Rehan Khan and another who can't be named due to his age but I think you can fill in the blanks.Will all those who were getting very animated about this being an Israeli false flag, now come out and accept they were wrong, like they were wrong about Netanyahu being dead, or will they now just move on to the lost pilot story being a fabrication?Always been true you cannot criticise those that control you.Anybody doing a bet builder on Iqbal, Mohammed or Hamza?
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