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There's some stiff competition!
Afghan War 2001 - 2021
This actually made perfect sense in 2001,and was very successful in achieving the initial goals: smashing the Al Qaeda camps and overthrowing the Taliban that was protecting them.
Now it remembered as a fiasco: 'taking 20 years to replace The Taliban with The Taliban'.
The big mistake was staying around to build democracy and human rights, which are nebulous things to the majority of Afghans. The Western forces should just have left the Afghans to it after putting Bin Laden on the run, as they have done since 2021.
People forget what the initial purpose of the war was. The terrorists who went through the Al Qaeda training were incredibly good at co ordinating mass fatality attacks. Obviously 9/11, but also Madrid 2004, London 2005...
By about 2010 the terrorists who went through that training were mostly dead, perhaps the Bataclan attack in 2015 was the last of them. Since then jihadi terrorists are not very sophisticated at all, blokes running around with kitchen knives.
Iraq War 2003
I'll be surprised if there is anyone still defending this one. Saddam was no threat to anyone outside Iraq. And if his regime had continued for 20 years he could never have got close to matching the death toll that the carnage of insurgency brought.
Certainly he wouldn't have been able to kill thousands of Western troops.
So this war was certainly dumber than the Afghan one, as it had no sensible justification in the first place. And then again, hanging around for decades trying to make a 3rd world tribal land into a liberal democracy.....
To be fair, the early 2000s was the peak of 'end of history' thinking, so the belief that only dictators were preventing women's lib and gay rights being established worldwide was maybe understandable.
Libyan War 2011
This was one of the stupidest things I've seen in my lifetime.
Despite all the lessons of Afghanistan and Iraq, America, Britain & France bomb Gadaffi until he is lynched by his enemies, and are then surprised when a liberal democracy does not emerge in the aftermath.
Iran War 2026
Now I'd be glad to see the Iranian regime fall but how is firing missiles at it going to bring it down? They can hardly surrender to foreign airforces. They certainly can't surrender to the protestors, and there is no armed opposition to them in the country.
So they rule out any negotiation but have no way of ending the regime, which will naturally continue to exist and threaten anything in the Straits of Hormuz.
The best hope seems to be that, as there is no coherent goal or strategy, Trump could at any point stop bombing and declare victory.
Afghan War 2001 - 2021
This actually made perfect sense in 2001,and was very successful in achieving the initial goals: smashing the Al Qaeda camps and overthrowing the Taliban that was protecting them.
Now it remembered as a fiasco: 'taking 20 years to replace The Taliban with The Taliban'.
The big mistake was staying around to build democracy and human rights, which are nebulous things to the majority of Afghans. The Western forces should just have left the Afghans to it after putting Bin Laden on the run, as they have done since 2021.
People forget what the initial purpose of the war was. The terrorists who went through the Al Qaeda training were incredibly good at co ordinating mass fatality attacks. Obviously 9/11, but also Madrid 2004, London 2005...
By about 2010 the terrorists who went through that training were mostly dead, perhaps the Bataclan attack in 2015 was the last of them. Since then jihadi terrorists are not very sophisticated at all, blokes running around with kitchen knives.
Iraq War 2003
I'll be surprised if there is anyone still defending this one. Saddam was no threat to anyone outside Iraq. And if his regime had continued for 20 years he could never have got close to matching the death toll that the carnage of insurgency brought.
Certainly he wouldn't have been able to kill thousands of Western troops.
So this war was certainly dumber than the Afghan one, as it had no sensible justification in the first place. And then again, hanging around for decades trying to make a 3rd world tribal land into a liberal democracy.....
To be fair, the early 2000s was the peak of 'end of history' thinking, so the belief that only dictators were preventing women's lib and gay rights being established worldwide was maybe understandable.
Libyan War 2011
This was one of the stupidest things I've seen in my lifetime.
Despite all the lessons of Afghanistan and Iraq, America, Britain & France bomb Gadaffi until he is lynched by his enemies, and are then surprised when a liberal democracy does not emerge in the aftermath.
Iran War 2026
Now I'd be glad to see the Iranian regime fall but how is firing missiles at it going to bring it down? They can hardly surrender to foreign airforces. They certainly can't surrender to the protestors, and there is no armed opposition to them in the country.
So they rule out any negotiation but have no way of ending the regime, which will naturally continue to exist and threaten anything in the Straits of Hormuz.
The best hope seems to be that, as there is no coherent goal or strategy, Trump could at any point stop bombing and declare victory.
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It is pretty funny seeing how forumites suggesting the US admin are being stupid are the same ones that were upset about Hamas being blown up after they bought 40 year old explosive filled pagers from Israel.
Shrewd_dude, are you saying Pete Hegseth is a smart guy and we should no be laughing at the pickle he has made of this excursion?
you lot got orgasmic over feeble demented Joe, he could not string a sentence together and was not up to the jawb.
The Dems convention is like a plastic surgery exhibition, old fvkrs that never worked a day and stuffed thar pockets.
As for Bill clingon and the truth, watch his lips.
The Don (ego and all) is exactly what was needed to get a lot of dirty jawbs done and when he speaks people listen.
The Dems convention is like a plastic surgery exhibition, old fvkrs that never worked a day and stuffed thar pockets.
As for Bill clingon and the truth, watch his lips.
The Don (ego and all) is exactly what was needed to get a lot of dirty jawbs done and when he speaks people listen.
No I don’t think he’s smart Nobbie but equally he didn’t didn’t get blown up because he bought a 40 year old pager from his enemies.
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Why are you asking me if you already think you know the answer?
The IAEA said they have enriched uranium to 60%, it’s not whether they can create the material, it’s now the time it takes them to work out how to deploy it.
The previous direction was to agree they would ultimately achieve a bomb, but it wouldn’t have been possible until those who agreed to it were out of office-somebody else’s problem
This of a regime who have threatened numerous countries, tried to assassinate numerous figures and kept up a terrorist funding and training scheme while saying they would destroy America and Israel
Now you can come to your half baked ideas, but they have no impact on the outcome so don’t really matter.
The reason I asked was to get your myopic opinion stated once again... and so you think that's all it is ?
Very one dimensional parroting of TPTB if you ask me
and my comments strangely enough seem to have been half baked over the course of the last century and more - yes there's really no evidence or history to back those up at all is there ?
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Besides they are not the only angle here
There are more and nobody has even mentioned them - but we'll talk that another time
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Why are you asking me if you already think you know the answer?
The IAEA said they have enriched uranium to 60%, it’s not whether they can create the material, it’s now the time it takes them to work out how to deploy it.
The previous direction was to agree they would ultimately achieve a bomb, but it wouldn’t have been possible until those who agreed to it were out of office-somebody else’s problem
This of a regime who have threatened numerous countries, tried to assassinate numerous figures and kept up a terrorist funding and training scheme while saying they would destroy America and Israel
Now you can come to your half baked ideas, but they have no impact on the outcome so don’t really matter.
The reason I asked was to get your myopic opinion stated once again... and so you think that's all it is ?
Very one dimensional parroting of TPTB if you ask me
and my comments strangely enough seem to have been half baked over the course of the last century and more - yes there's really no evidence or history to back those up at all is there ?
/s
Besides they are not the only angle here
There are more and nobody has even mentioned them - but we'll talk that another time
And in reality, who actually fkin knows ? I don't - you certainly don't
We can only posit and theorize
We can only posit and theorize
Very one dimensional parroting of TPTB if you ask me
I didn’t
Why would I when I’ve read what the IAEA have written and have seen 47 years worth of intent from the IRGC?
I didn’t
Why would I when I’ve read what the IAEA have written and have seen 47 years worth of intent from the IRGC?
Why would I when I’ve read what the IAEA have written and have seen 47 years worth of intent from the IRGC?
47 years is a long time
Not as long as the 78 years it took Israel to double it's territorial control but still...
47 years is a long time
Not as long as the 78 years it took Israel to double it's territorial control but still...
Because all those Jews that used to be scattered around went home, everywhere else got filled in with everyone else other than Jews
So it stands to reason
So it stands to reason
Surprised farage isn't out there in his little boat
He'll turn up to the opening of a wallet.
He'll turn up to the opening of a wallet.
At this point they're gonna have to release the Epstein Files to distract from the war
Does anybody know any wars that lead their supporters to try and stop others buying avocados in Waitrose because they got whipped so bad after they started their war?
It doesn't get too much funnier than declaring an enemy oblitoated and a war won and then only a week later have to ask the world for help 
Why isn't Israel prepared to help Donald in his hour of need?
Why isn't Israel prepared to help Donald in his hour of need?
Israel busy with another genocide if Turkey is correct.
Because of Trump & Starmer & Badenoch they already got away with one!
I hope President Trump can sleep at night. To go into a war conflict against a country in the same region as Iraq, Syria and Libya could be a war too many even for America. This can only be a positive for Russia (focus away from Ukraine) and China (economically and financially).
In 10 years time China will have rebuilt Iran and be providing them with security in exchange for cheap oil
How can you start a thread on dumbest war of the century and fail to mention Russia’s endless war with Ukraine or Hamas starting a war with Israel then crying when they get womped back to the 16th century?
Good Q.
Putin's war certainly looks dumb compared to how he was expecting it to go. I saw someone saying it was like America invaded Mexico and, after 4 years, were shelling some towns 20 miles from the Texas border.
On the other hand though, the conventional wisdom at the start was that Russia would be brought to it's knees by a few months of all out sanctions, but he has proven that Russia is way too resilient for that.
He also seems to be stronger within Russia, with all potential threats gone. So while it seems like madness to you or me, Putin may well have no regrets, the dead Russian soldiers will be just statistics to him.
I think the Hamas leaders would not be at all surprised by how their war went after October 7th. The Arabs have a very long term view of historical events. They compare Israel to the crusader states: they arrived, they had military superiority and Western support. They defeated the muslims, established their states and fought off counter attacks for 200 years. But eventually the muslims became more united, the Western help stopped coming and the crusaders were overthrown. The Gaza War has significantly reduced Western support for Israel ( in public opinion more than with politicians, but the former will influence the latter long term). The Hamas leaders didn't care about the lives of Palestinians, even their own lives.
Good Q.
Putin's war certainly looks dumb compared to how he was expecting it to go. I saw someone saying it was like America invaded Mexico and, after 4 years, were shelling some towns 20 miles from the Texas border.
On the other hand though, the conventional wisdom at the start was that Russia would be brought to it's knees by a few months of all out sanctions, but he has proven that Russia is way too resilient for that.
He also seems to be stronger within Russia, with all potential threats gone. So while it seems like madness to you or me, Putin may well have no regrets, the dead Russian soldiers will be just statistics to him.
I think the Hamas leaders would not be at all surprised by how their war went after October 7th. The Arabs have a very long term view of historical events. They compare Israel to the crusader states: they arrived, they had military superiority and Western support. They defeated the muslims, established their states and fought off counter attacks for 200 years. But eventually the muslims became more united, the Western help stopped coming and the crusaders were overthrown. The Gaza War has significantly reduced Western support for Israel ( in public opinion more than with politicians, but the former will influence the latter long term). The Hamas leaders didn't care about the lives of Palestinians, even their own lives.
Russia would be brought to it's knees by a few months of all out sanctions
Yeah, the point is that that has just failed to pass. Countries can have rules on sanctions but capitalist enterprises just get their best lawyers on the case and figure out work-arounds through other countries or shell companies. Can't let thousands of people dying and the erosion of freedom get in the way of profits.
As for Hamas, the Israel reaction was the point.
Yeah, the point is that that has just failed to pass. Countries can have rules on sanctions but capitalist enterprises just get their best lawyers on the case and figure out work-arounds through other countries or shell companies. Can't let thousands of people dying and the erosion of freedom get in the way of profits.
As for Hamas, the Israel reaction was the point.
Even more reason for the Gazans and the pally****s in the UK to show a whimper of opposition and resistance to Hamas.
Alas they didn’t and things ended up as they did.
Alas they didn’t and things ended up as they did.
Taco man is squirming. He's begging the European leaders for assistance to keep the Strait Of Hormuz open.
The longer this goes on the more it becomes more apparent how dumb it was
The Strait of Hormuz handles 20–30% of global fertilizer exports and 25% of seaborne oil, could trigger a severe global food crisis. A shutdown restricts fertilizer shipments and raises natural gas costs, limiting crucial nitrogen-based fertilizers and threatening lower crop yields, high food prices, and famine-like conditions
The missiles used to shoot down drones apparently cost about 100 times more than the drones they are shooting down
The Strait of Hormuz handles 20–30% of global fertilizer exports and 25% of seaborne oil, could trigger a severe global food crisis. A shutdown restricts fertilizer shipments and raises natural gas costs, limiting crucial nitrogen-based fertilizers and threatening lower crop yields, high food prices, and famine-like conditions
The missiles used to shoot down drones apparently cost about 100 times more than the drones they are shooting down
Not much profit on an Iranian drone
Whereas all of these USA missiles carry a decent
margin to makers and dealers.
AI says..
Missile Unit Costs
Individual missile costs vary significantly depending on their sophistication and intended use:
THAAD Interceptor: Approximately $12.7 million per missile.
Patriot (PAC-3) Interceptor: Costs range from $3.7 million to $4.1 million per unit.
Tomahawk Cruise Missile: Roughly $3.5 million to $4 million each.
Arrow 3 System: Between $2.5 million and $4 million per shot.
AIM-9X Sidewinder: Approximately $439,000 per missile.
Lower-Cost Options: Lockheed Martin recently unveiled a cruise missile priced at $150,000 for high-volume use.
Defense Contractor Profits
Major U.S. defense firms, including Lockheed Martin, RTX (formerly Raytheon), Northrop Grumman, and Boeing, are seeing increased financial returns:
Lockheed Martin: Forecasted 2026 revenue between $77.5 billion and $80 billion, with expected profit per share reaching up to $30.25.
RTX: Recently secured a $5 billion missile order and a $1.1 billion contract for AIM-9X missiles.
Northrop Grumman: Reaffirmed its commitment to dividends and reported being more profitable than expected due to weapons awards.
Stock Performance: Shares in major defense firms jumped following plans to double missile production.
Reuters
+4
Market and Budget Scale
Market Size: The U.S. rocket and missile market was valued at $16.25 billion in 2023 and is projected to grow through 2030.
Operational Costs: In recent conflicts, the U.S. has spent an estimated $1.1 billion per day, with roughly $5.7 billion worth of interceptors used in just the first few days of major engagements.
Golden Dome Project: A proposed massive missile defense shield estimated to cost $175 billion.
Palestine Chronicle
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Whereas all of these USA missiles carry a decent
margin to makers and dealers.
AI says..
Missile Unit Costs
Individual missile costs vary significantly depending on their sophistication and intended use:
THAAD Interceptor: Approximately $12.7 million per missile.
Patriot (PAC-3) Interceptor: Costs range from $3.7 million to $4.1 million per unit.
Tomahawk Cruise Missile: Roughly $3.5 million to $4 million each.
Arrow 3 System: Between $2.5 million and $4 million per shot.
AIM-9X Sidewinder: Approximately $439,000 per missile.
Lower-Cost Options: Lockheed Martin recently unveiled a cruise missile priced at $150,000 for high-volume use.
Defense Contractor Profits
Major U.S. defense firms, including Lockheed Martin, RTX (formerly Raytheon), Northrop Grumman, and Boeing, are seeing increased financial returns:
Lockheed Martin: Forecasted 2026 revenue between $77.5 billion and $80 billion, with expected profit per share reaching up to $30.25.
RTX: Recently secured a $5 billion missile order and a $1.1 billion contract for AIM-9X missiles.
Northrop Grumman: Reaffirmed its commitment to dividends and reported being more profitable than expected due to weapons awards.
Stock Performance: Shares in major defense firms jumped following plans to double missile production.
Reuters
+4
Market and Budget Scale
Market Size: The U.S. rocket and missile market was valued at $16.25 billion in 2023 and is projected to grow through 2030.
Operational Costs: In recent conflicts, the U.S. has spent an estimated $1.1 billion per day, with roughly $5.7 billion worth of interceptors used in just the first few days of major engagements.
Golden Dome Project: A proposed massive missile defense shield estimated to cost $175 billion.
Palestine Chronicle
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The longer this goes on the more it becomes more apparent how dumb it was
C'mon ... Anyone who thinks that play wasn't discussed to death the last 20 years needs their bumps feeling
Anyone considered this is what they want ? Energy disruption
The longer this goes on the more it becomes more apparent how dumb it was
C'mon ... Anyone who thinks that play wasn't discussed to death the last 20 years needs their bumps feeling
Anyone considered this is what they want ? Energy disruption
CL, the sychophants Vance, Kent and Tubbard all seemingly advised against it, though I wouldn't give them too much credit myself, as ability is secondary to pandering in Trump appointments.
Trump will be one of those needing his bumps feeling. Anyone, who thinks Trump factored it in lives in a fantasy world.
Trump will be one of those needing his bumps feeling. Anyone, who thinks Trump factored it in lives in a fantasy world.
WW2 was possibly the dumbest. We've wrecked, or given away,
everything they fought and died to keep, in just 80 years.
everything they fought and died to keep, in just 80 years.
you mean the rise of the right wingers looking to punish ethnic minorities again, yeah?
Delicious irony from saddo totally devoid of
self awareness as per.
self awareness as per.
Mar 21, 2026 -- 2:12PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
you mean the rise of the right wingers looking to punish ethnic minorities again, yeah?
You gotta be the dumbest posted on this whole forum, PP. Anyway, this war is going so badly that Tr*mp may even fully release the Epst*in Files as a distraction.
Mar 15, 2026 -- 10:35AM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
At this point they're gonna have to release the Epstein Files to distract from the war
"
the failure to secure or take the strait of hormuz before starting the bombing is a massive mistake, doing so would have been exceedingly difficult but to not do so has left the world at the whim of the irgc.
I repeat
You must be severely off your rocker to think they had not thought of that
Think
You must be severely off your rocker to think they had not thought of that
Think
Mar 21, 2026 -- 7:49PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
Mar 15, 2026 -- 9:35AM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:At this point they're gonna have to release the Epstein Files to distract from the war"
Oh. 
Mar 21, 2026 -- 9:57PM, sofaking wrote:
Mar 21, 2026 -- 6:49PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:Mar 15, 2026 --
Jolly now a war strategist
"Failure to secure or take the straight" ...irgc drone warfare easily offset by the advances in tech and capability from Ukraine.
From the reports I have read Iran not easily defending it's country let alone the straight of Hormuz.
Probably a few hidden surprises in shape of subs and mines ect, but that work requires the specialist ships and equipment, a job for later and at end of day, USA got all the oil it needs and more,in fact a few dollars more on a barrel won't do them any harm.
Hopefully the oil situation can open a door for Russian /Ukraine peace, but don't forget the oil supply has held up well with Russia and Iran both spitting the dummy at same time.
Think it's the LNG rather than oil that is the concern and again USA got all the gas it needs and more, much more, again price increase a plus.
Houthis seem very quiet atm.
"Failure to secure or take the straight" ...irgc drone warfare easily offset by the advances in tech and capability from Ukraine.
From the reports I have read Iran not easily defending it's country let alone the straight of Hormuz.
Probably a few hidden surprises in shape of subs and mines ect, but that work requires the specialist ships and equipment, a job for later and at end of day, USA got all the oil it needs and more,in fact a few dollars more on a barrel won't do them any harm.
Hopefully the oil situation can open a door for Russian /Ukraine peace, but don't forget the oil supply has held up well with Russia and Iran both spitting the dummy at same time.
Think it's the LNG rather than oil that is the concern and again USA got all the gas it needs and more, much more, again price increase a plus.
Houthis seem very quiet atm.
Don't forget the China/India bound tankers we're bulletproof, perhaps a full closure for operational clear up might be a larf.
Or heaven forbid a houthi missile or Iranian sub/mine finds one by mistake.
China not keen on islamists within but happy to trade with the wurstest overseas, same ol same old.
Or heaven forbid a houthi missile or Iranian sub/mine finds one by mistake.
China not keen on islamists within but happy to trade with the wurstest overseas, same ol same old.
Your regular reminder that Iran doesn't need to constantly attack the Straits. It just needs to threaten to and to show that it's capable. It does that and no ship is going through as they are unable to get insurance, never mind the crew to do it.
If it was so easy to just escort ships through safely the yanks would already be doing it and showing everyone else up for being cowards. The fact that they're so unwilling to put their own troops and hardware at risk is a little telling, no?
Unfortunately, the way this has panned out so far is that we've now got a far stronger Iran than started. They've shown they can withstand the barrage, including the removal of key personnel, and have shown they have a huge amount of control over the fate of global economies. Any negotiation from now is gonna leave them much more powerful than it should have. Just imagine sitting down and them saying "If just one Israeli rocket hits our territory ever again, we won't fire back, we'll just start taking out ships." Just imagine the pressure then put on Israel to rein it in. Their worst nightmare come true. There's no chance of a public uprising to change the regime as they've quelled any dissent while this has been going on, being more brutal than ever. Their forces are scattered now. More like a guerilla outfit, so incredibly difficult to flatten. We may genuinely be looking at thousands of American and Israeli troops going in and spending years trying to dismantle the Republican Guard, and god knows what that does to how the rest of the world survives in the meantime.
If it was so easy to just escort ships through safely the yanks would already be doing it and showing everyone else up for being cowards. The fact that they're so unwilling to put their own troops and hardware at risk is a little telling, no?
Unfortunately, the way this has panned out so far is that we've now got a far stronger Iran than started. They've shown they can withstand the barrage, including the removal of key personnel, and have shown they have a huge amount of control over the fate of global economies. Any negotiation from now is gonna leave them much more powerful than it should have. Just imagine sitting down and them saying "If just one Israeli rocket hits our territory ever again, we won't fire back, we'll just start taking out ships." Just imagine the pressure then put on Israel to rein it in. Their worst nightmare come true. There's no chance of a public uprising to change the regime as they've quelled any dissent while this has been going on, being more brutal than ever. Their forces are scattered now. More like a guerilla outfit, so incredibly difficult to flatten. We may genuinely be looking at thousands of American and Israeli troops going in and spending years trying to dismantle the Republican Guard, and god knows what that does to how the rest of the world survives in the meantime.
Israel misjudged iran bigtime
trump desperate for a way OUT
trump desperate for a way OUT
Meloni isn't unreasonable in asking US/Israel to return the Straits to the way they were and yes Trump is obligated to do just that.
I don't think Iran are stronger, I think they are damaged, but
still capable of doing some damage.
They've played their poor hand as well as they could, and called out
a few of Trump and nettys bluffs.
Long term they can't win, but they don't need long term
strategy when under the cosh. Short termism is about
all they can hope for, until the bombs stop.
still capable of doing some damage.
They've played their poor hand as well as they could, and called out
a few of Trump and nettys bluffs.
Long term they can't win, but they don't need long term
strategy when under the cosh. Short termism is about
all they can hope for, until the bombs stop.
Mar 21, 2026 -- 10:37PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
Your regular reminder that Iran doesn't need to constantly attack the Straits. It just needs to threaten to and to show that it's capable. It does that and no ship is going through as they are unable to get insurance, never mind the crew to do it.If it was so easy to just escort ships through safely the yanks would already be doing it and showing everyone else up for being cowards. The fact that they're so unwilling to put their own troops and hardware at risk is a little telling, no?Unfortunately, the way this has panned out so far is that we've now got a far stronger Iran than started. They've shown they can withstand the barrage, including the removal of key personnel, and have shown they have a huge amount of control over the fate of global economies. Any negotiation from now is gonna leave them much more powerful than it should have. Just imagine sitting down and them saying "If just one Israeli rocket hits our territory ever again, we won't fire back, we'll just start taking out ships." Just imagine the pressure then put on Israel to rein it in. Their worst nightmare come true. There's no chance of a public uprising to change the regime as they've quelled any dissent while this has been going on, being more brutal than ever. Their forces are scattered now. More like a guerilla outfit, so incredibly difficult to flatten. We may genuinely be looking at thousands of American and Israeli troops going in and spending years trying to dismantle the Republican Guard, and god knows what that does to how the rest of the world survives in the meantime.
Ok, you do actually speak a lot of sense and have a good grasp on the current situation. I wrongly judged you on your ridiculous comment above when you mentioned right-wingers and ethnic minorities. 
If it wasn't for the evils of SM algorithms we wouldn't be in this mess. Trump is in power because of Social Media algorithms feeding people repetitively with the same junk information. Many people get brainwashed and end up voting for an imbecile like Trump. There's a minority of people on here falling for the BS. It's not far off what the people of Iran and Russia, for example, have faced for decades. A steady stream of distorted and fake news, but from totalitarian regimes, instead of algorithms
It's also why we've got an ever increasing polarization in politics. Two separate people with wildly different views being fed two wildly different sets of fake news sent to their feed by these algorithms, perpetuating their distorted views. All the while, in the background inequality gets worse. Think that's also a reason for it, and a by product of it, so it's self perpetuating.
It's also why we've got an ever increasing polarization in politics. Two separate people with wildly different views being fed two wildly different sets of fake news sent to their feed by these algorithms, perpetuating their distorted views. All the while, in the background inequality gets worse. Think that's also a reason for it, and a by product of it, so it's self perpetuating.
Countries can have rules on sanctions but capitalist enterprises just get their best lawyers on the case and figure out work-arounds through other countries or shell companies
It was also actual governments of EU countries (especially Germany) figuring out work-arounds as well as nations which basically support Russia. Plus the fact that Russians are just going to better than Western people at enduring whatever hardships arise.
It was also actual governments of EU countries (especially Germany) figuring out work-arounds as well as nations which basically support Russia. Plus the fact that Russians are just going to better than Western people at enduring whatever hardships arise.
Trump is in power because of Social Media algorithms
This war is dumb, but people didn't need algorithms to say no thanks to Kamala.
This war is dumb, but people didn't need algorithms to say no thanks to Kamala.
Mar 21, 2026 -- 7:57PM, jollyswagman wrote:
the failure to secure or take the strait of hormuz before starting the bombing is a massive mistake, doing so would have been exceedingly difficult but to not do so has left the world at the whim of the irgc.
There is no military way to secure the straits, short of conquering Iran with 150,000 + troops. The drones can be launched from hundreds of miles inland.
and at end of day, USA got all the oil it needs and more,in fact a few dollars more on a barrel won't do them any harm.
Nice for America, but over here we have Ed Milliband and windmills
Nice for America, but over here we have Ed Milliband and windmills
tobermory, today i read that they have a mountain deep within which are lots of munitions, they have lots of different sites to launch the bombs from off the mountain and they are not deterred if a launch site is detected and destroyed as they have so many others to use. i think the depth mentioned for the bombs being stored was 500 metres so there is no chance of destroying them by american bombs.
i think they have plenty of marine drones as well.
all the talk of them losing 90% of their arsenal or whatever seems fanciful.
i think what this war has taught us is that iran has plenty of leverage over the strait and that they are prepared to put up with lots of bombing themselves.
i think they have plenty of marine drones as well.
all the talk of them losing 90% of their arsenal or whatever seems fanciful.
i think what this war has taught us is that iran has plenty of leverage over the strait and that they are prepared to put up with lots of bombing themselves.
Your such a drama queen.
Calm down, the Don got open top bus booked.
Calm down, the Don got open top bus booked.
It's not a dumb war if the main players get what they want out of it
This thing has only just begun
Oil at $150 a given in my view and likely even higher and for time
The grift continues
Covid 2.0 ?
The next phase
This thing has only just begun
Oil at $150 a given in my view and likely even higher and for time
The grift continues
Covid 2.0 ?
The next phase
This war is dumb, but people didn't need algorithms to say no thanks to Kamala.
I don't recall Kamala being on the list of Republican nominees.
I don't recall Kamala being on the list of Republican nominees.
ha ha breadnbutter.
if i had nothing to worry about i would worry about the fact that i had nothing to worry about, i am afraid i am guilty as charged.
if i had nothing to worry about i would worry about the fact that i had nothing to worry about, i am afraid i am guilty as charged.
tomorrow is huge
us marines arrive Middle East
5 day trump warning ends
dow 10% off its high
us marines arrive Middle East
5 day trump warning ends
dow 10% off its high
if markets think this is another cry wolf
Friday could be ugly
Friday could be ugly
seems that the oil market doesn't believe a word he says anymore. And only Iran matters as far as gulf oil is concerned.
The Boy Who Cried Wolf innit.
It really comes to something when you are more inclined to believe Iran than the US President. This endless pandering to a narcissistic pratt has created a deluded monster
It really comes to something when you are more inclined to believe Iran than the US President. This endless pandering to a narcissistic pratt has created a deluded monster
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl4yk7vgpo
kash patel what a moron
kash patel what a moron
Israel's plan to cause as much damage as possible in Iran and also create a smokescreen for a Lebanon land-grab?
Very sly.
Very sly.
it is well documented that some of the israeli government want a greater israel, i hope i am wrong but i dont see the people of southern lebanon going home in the foreseeable future.
we all recognise that iran is a theocracy but there are religious fruitcakes in israel and in the american hierarchy. hegseth's words at a prayer meeting were the words of a fruit loop. in his interview with tucker carlson the american ambassador, mike huckabee, invoked the bible to justify israel expanding its land.
and now the houthis are joining in.
the war is going very badly but rather than back down trump seems more likely to send in ground troops which will probably make it even worse.
imo, this is the dumbest war of the century.
we all recognise that iran is a theocracy but there are religious fruitcakes in israel and in the american hierarchy. hegseth's words at a prayer meeting were the words of a fruit loop. in his interview with tucker carlson the american ambassador, mike huckabee, invoked the bible to justify israel expanding its land.
and now the houthis are joining in.
the war is going very badly but rather than back down trump seems more likely to send in ground troops which will probably make it even worse.
imo, this is the dumbest war of the century.
Trump will be getting the bibles out again...
Hesgeth seems as loopy as Trump. Vance and Rubio's sychophantic relationship with Trump seems more considered and about personal gain.
I don't believe it is a 'war' anymore.
The phoney war began with Dresident Pump's 5 day, now 10 day ultimatum to Iran to accept conditions.
Eff all can be done to release the economic stranglehold held by Eyeran with the blockade of the 'strait'...
...other than for his christian zionist masters to instruct the pressing of a nuclear bomb to end it in Japan like fashion.
He's fecked.
Eyeran could decimate the US proxy's sanitation and energy plants in the blink of an eye.
A global economy crash would send us all into a spin.
Dresident Pump needs to turn around, shake hands and call it a draw with Eyeran possibly agreeing to the oversight of its uranium enrichment programme purely engineered for energy production.
The phoney war began with Dresident Pump's 5 day, now 10 day ultimatum to Iran to accept conditions.
Eff all can be done to release the economic stranglehold held by Eyeran with the blockade of the 'strait'...
...other than for his christian zionist masters to instruct the pressing of a nuclear bomb to end it in Japan like fashion.
He's fecked.
Eyeran could decimate the US proxy's sanitation and energy plants in the blink of an eye.
A global economy crash would send us all into a spin.
Dresident Pump needs to turn around, shake hands and call it a draw with Eyeran possibly agreeing to the oversight of its uranium enrichment programme purely engineered for energy production.
with no checks or balances whatsoever, id have to say yes, this is the dumbest war of the century
it's ok, if the iranians don't negotiate by the end of the 10 days fifa will award trump the war 3-0 and give him a trophy.
all this to deflect from his perverted goings on in the epstein files
No 10s firebombing rent boys in court this month too, all getting a bit seedy, Just need a big expose on Mandelson and some underagers on epstein island next, sleaze central this lot.
regime take over
protect the people of iran
bomb the people of iran
close the strait of hormuz
ground troops
protect the people of iran
bomb the people of iran
close the strait of hormuz
ground troops
Considering the world has let one tiny country, acting completely without reservation, to make the whole world poorer, I’d say more fool you and me. Yes, we have been legendarily dumb to pander to Israel. The country isn’t even of the West imo.
So far "winning" means..
Risk of future Iranian nuclear weapons increased
Regime change not achieved and no signs of it
Risk of future terrorist activity increased
Thousands of people killed already including a few hundred children
Likely prospect of a global recession. Recessions are estimated to increase child mortality rates in developing nations by 6.9% and overall mortality rates by 4.6% in developing nations
Fears of a global famine from lack of fertiliser, blowing above estimates out of the water
Hate to know what losing means then
Risk of future Iranian nuclear weapons increased
Regime change not achieved and no signs of it
Risk of future terrorist activity increased
Thousands of people killed already including a few hundred children
Likely prospect of a global recession. Recessions are estimated to increase child mortality rates in developing nations by 6.9% and overall mortality rates by 4.6% in developing nations
Fears of a global famine from lack of fertiliser, blowing above estimates out of the water
Hate to know what losing means then
bet just placed of$ 170k on the polymarket
USA will invade IRAN ground troops before 31st march
USA will invade IRAN ground troops before 31st march
Some entanglements are much easier to get into than to get out of - but it makes sense if you’re operating on a 48 hour horizon.
Just hope the British Army aren’t dragged into it.
I remember when Vietnam was considered a cautionary tale rather than a model to follow.
I remember when the rise of fascism was considered a
cautionary tale rather than a model to follow.
cautionary tale rather than a model to follow.
The Number Of US Army Forces In The Middle East Has Exceeded 50,000 Soldiers.
- New York Times
- New York Times
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyd07m7e1xo
Send more planes please.
Send more planes please.
@Polymarket
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BREAKING: U.S. officials & Wall Street analysts are now reportedly preparing for the possibility of $200 oil.
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BREAKING: U.S. officials & Wall Street analysts are now reportedly preparing for the possibility of $200 oil.
how to win over people of iran
USA and Israel carried out massive airstrikes on power plants and substations located in urban areas in and around Tehran, resulting in a blackout of almost the entire territory of Tehran.
USA and Israel carried out massive airstrikes on power plants and substations located in urban areas in and around Tehran, resulting in a blackout of almost the entire territory of Tehran.
israel and the usa have nukes, with two mad men in charge there is actually a chance they will be used.
Get used to it
Will be a few years this one .. saw it coming a very long way off
GAME OVER for the UK that's for sure
Will be a few years this one .. saw it coming a very long way off
GAME OVER for the UK that's for sure
and I do mean GAME OVER
even with a massive print at some point
even with a massive print at some point
So Iran has lost some obsolete ships and planes and a few replaceable mullahs.
The nuclear issue is back to some vague talk of negotiations, when there were actually real negotiations before the war began.
The US has expended huge amounts of very expensive and certainly not obsolete weaponry which will take some time and an enormous cost to replace.
The Strait of Hormuz has gone from being seen as an international waterway to something seen as belonging to Iran.
What a total failure.
The nuclear issue is back to some vague talk of negotiations, when there were actually real negotiations before the war began.
The US has expended huge amounts of very expensive and certainly not obsolete weaponry which will take some time and an enormous cost to replace.
The Strait of Hormuz has gone from being seen as an international waterway to something seen as belonging to Iran.
What a total failure.
They took the Supreme leader out Tobe , how long had he been running the show ? not sure what that achieved Other than mass celebrations from people who had been living under the Tyrants rule for years
You might be surprised Re the IRGC , if they had any support in the Gulf it has certainly Reduced
Many Gulf states who have plenty , will be certainly investing in Arms ,they wont be for use against the States or Israel ..
Many Gulf states who have plenty , will be certainly investing in Arms ,they wont be for use against the States or Israel ..
They took the Supreme leader out Tobe , how long had he been running the show ? not sure what that achieved Other than mass celebrations from people who had been living under the Tyrants rule for years
They achieved diddly squat and made a huge mess of economies around the world.
The regime has a stronger grip than it did before.
The only major winners are putin, trump and his billionaires, isreal and iranian religious nutcases.
The rest of the world gets to eat cardboard.
They just carried on without the supreme leader. Some regime guys were killed and their places were taken by men with the same views.
The regime is totally intact.
They've fallen out with Qatar I suppose, but the rest of the Arabs already hated them.
I should have added that they still have tens of thousands of drones.
You can't say America won this anymore than the Vietnam War really.
The regime is totally intact.
They've fallen out with Qatar I suppose, but the rest of the Arabs already hated them.
I should have added that they still have tens of thousands of drones.
You can't say America won this anymore than the Vietnam War really.
No one has won anything Tobe , But some folks in Iran got what they wanted the Removal of the Supreme Leader
you think going forward the rest of the Gulf are going to let Iran hold them to ransom ?
The regime is totally intact. there plenty of previous members who are not intact
you think going forward the rest of the Gulf are going to let Iran hold them to ransom ?
The regime is totally intact. there plenty of previous members who are not intact
ALL wars are dumb. As Edwin Star once said: "War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing."
you think going forward the rest of the Gulf are going to let Iran hold them to ransom ?
Saudis and Qataris are seeing their countries going to the dogs cos they can't open the Straits. Don't think a load of missiles flying from one side to the other is going to be their path to prosperity. Unfortunately for all, Iran is now a very major player in the region as it's shown it has the capability and the will to bring the oil trade to its knees and no amount of missiles has changed their minds. The Saudis aren't stupid enough to follow Trump's route. They'll be sat round the table together before the end of the year looking to see how Iran can be welcomed into the international fold.
Saudis and Qataris are seeing their countries going to the dogs cos they can't open the Straits. Don't think a load of missiles flying from one side to the other is going to be their path to prosperity. Unfortunately for all, Iran is now a very major player in the region as it's shown it has the capability and the will to bring the oil trade to its knees and no amount of missiles has changed their minds. The Saudis aren't stupid enough to follow Trump's route. They'll be sat round the table together before the end of the year looking to see how Iran can be welcomed into the international fold.
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