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He failed first 7 times as a candidate for MP.
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OOOOOh AAAAAh, up the RA, 50 squids please!
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The last Irish pub in Kilburn disappeared decades ago, lapsy pa, but back in the late seventies they used to come around collecting for the IRA.
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Plenty around in the millennium, sorry state for Irish people that it was such a big part of life,An Phoblacht was also sold openly in Cork pubs and bought.
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There was a transformation during my time in London. By the time I left, Irish incomers were better educated than London raised.
A huge net benefit to the metropolis. But the old Irish "drinkers" disappeared from Fulham Broadway, Hammersmith, Kilburn .. I guess the crack was good in Cricklewood until we lost that too. |
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Came to London in the 80's,loved it,dirty hard work but some social life,great city then to me. Pubs with Sky etc have went on a downward trend,as well as a bit more cop on generally,i think it was a kinda sad kinda craic today but then maybe a bit more feckless,the oldies were never going back married to the Crown.
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What was the big place in Kilburn, the National? Only went to see a concert there (Billy Bragg '86).
But I knew people who worked at the great Irish Pub further up Edgware Road. The Crown. The landlord made a million. The builders used to pick up labourers and skilled workers at dawn from there. There was hardly a pub or betting shop in London that did not benefit from an Irish employee. The Irish never readily volunteered to pay Poll Tax, so the population of London was officially underestimated through that time. Also (c '90) I gather there were many Irish emigrees seeking to escape an unhappy marriage .. I would like to think that London enriched their lives as much as I know Irish people enriched my life and the life of London. |
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Kilburn national ballroom
I went to see simply red supported by terrence Trent derby Great night, great place, lovely people in the bars. |
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Sorry for the late reply Ub, i was mostly in East Ham,Stratford,(lol Newham!). I seen an influx of ahem non Cockneys into the area then,i think i kind of understood it from many (indigenous) attitudes then, it was being 'lost',not all roses but there was a sense of community.
Re poll tax, i was working at the worst for £20 a day,rent was maybe £45 for a room in a krap house,i was cycling into central London to save on tube fares,i couldn't pay it and was arrested for cycling down a one way street because i wasn't on poll tax register. Me and push bike went into paddy wagon to Snowhill police station. A lot of bombings in Central London at the time so not much ill feeling though i knew i was fecked once i opened my mouth.A few years later i got a break doing price work,a different ball game but 7 days a week. Quite a big 'influx' of Irish into London but it was short term late 80's early 90's, many went back. Clubs and gigs were brilliant,a mad eye opener to a small scene and same faces always,i think it most certainly enriched many , me anyway.38 years on my wife would be testimony to that,she has but once won who answers most questions on 'who wants to be a millionaire' and gave me a £ each time all these years but... she is a very clever person x. |
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Yes , they collected around the pubs to support gangsters and Murderers , I wonder if any of the Church plate Enevelopes ended up in the Wrong hands ?
Meanwhile we had the guy selling cockles and seafood making the Rounds ,strange when you think about it |
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And that was in a pub where irish lads drank , They worked hard and Bought houses it was a time of Opportunity ,and fair play to them , for them the Streets of London were paved with Gold
After a lot of very hard work they found it ,A freind of mine His house in Epsom has to be worth 4 million , he also has a house in Eire he goes back to , He was one of many |
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I pulled a cracking Irish bird at Ashtons
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The Irish have been ethnic cleansed out of north west London, which is rather ironic!
The galty, the village, dicey riley's, hole in the wall, windmill, national, did them all lol. |
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Does anyone know the dob club? I have no idea if it's still there.
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iirc the crown was the one near the big chichele road junction in cricklewood. right sh1thole that was, never keen on going in there
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Did they have a theatre there?
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The good thing if Farage was PM is that he could take his Cabinet to tgd people all over the country in an Uber!
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no, but it was a working mans club and had a stage and ballroom type thing. and a snooker room. about 5 mins walk from kilburn station
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was basically an irish club. good value and 2 for 1 on members nights, so it was a good starting point
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I used to go to a wine bar in willesden green a lot too. cannot remember the name of it though. and club 312, until it was torched!
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I rarely got that far out. I was a West End boy
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My aunt lived on Berwick Street, so we used to visit regular when I was pretty young. There was always a massive market there and a kfc was at the bottom of the big block. She was a council tenant, only wish I had been a bit older as would have got her to use rtb. Flat must be pushing a million in value these days. My Nan rented a ground floor flat off the council on chichele road, with a garden! that went back to the council too :(
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Good times.
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Hotel, motel, Holiday Inn!
Best of times Greed was good and life was fun, does anybody remember laughter? There's a feeling I get when I look to the West And my spirit is crying for leaving |
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Good times is a song that changed the World
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If anyone thinks that Reform are going to win a majority or most seats, you should have a look at the Scotland prediction on Electoral Calculus. Estimated Reform share of vote 17% (up from 7%). Predicted number of seats? Zero.
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This is the problem with Reform. The more they split the vote, the more likely are the party not involved in the split to simply pick up seats for nothing. In Scotland, it's the SNP.
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The LibDems must be praying that Reform stay where they are in opinion polls as the LibDems will hoover up most of the South of England.
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I think it is really open with everything you play for. The Conservatives are a busted flush right now. Bad Enoch is pretty thick imho. I would imagine the last hurrah of the right will be to get get Jenrick to try and out do Farage. This would be delightful to watch.
Not sure how the Conservatives recover but I think they do over time with a return to One Nation moderates. I liked Rory Stewart but he will not appeal to the basket of deplorable types. The Right is hopelessly split. Nobody likes Starmer or what Labour have become but they have the benefit of 14 years of incompetence and corruption Most of us hate the current politicians and have nowhere to go. We can only hope something develops |
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Only in his dream. Mr Farage is not President Trump. He does not have the financial clout to gain political traction; baptism as an MP is far from smooth or productive.
Mr Farage is only interested in himself, and what politics can bring him eg easy money and publicity. |
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Obviously not racist and misogynist for some on here too
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The part of London I know best- within a couple of miles radius of Chelsea football ground - is heavily indebted to the Guiness Trust for good housing supplied in place of slums. Social housing. Some of these properties are now worth more than a million but when money appears corruption is never far behind.
Even thirty years ago it was accepted - by those inside - that applicants could not progress until a bribe was offered. Five grand even then. Dread to think what it is today. Still, I expect the Guinness Trust hold the freeholds. |
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Theme = common practice
Work in restaurant ,live upstairs........sublet social housing and claim unemployment. |
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entrepreneurs
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What's the point of working?
What is the reward? The question that has corroded the work ethic for generations of people here. |