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Wind power was the largest source of energy in the UK from January to September of 2024.


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By:
Escapee
When: 31 Dec 24 16:34
From this

https://www.nationofchange.org/2024/12/27/energy-prices-drop-below-zero-in-uk-thanks-to-record-wind-generated-electricity/

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By:
Mexico
When: 31 Dec 24 16:46
Off shore wind turbines will escape the local criticism that the turbines have on land. We will need to get the electricity to cities which will involve miles of tall pylons as cheaper than putting underground.

We have had decades of procrastination , especially with nuclear power. Having our population increase by over 1% each year will add to difficulties in hitting targets.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 31 Dec 24 17:09
I never would have guessed massive subsidies, renewable energy targets and environmental regulations forcing their use would have an effect like that.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Dec 24 17:15
When will the £300 Reduction in our Bills happen Escapee ? Surely this can only be weeks away now
By:
Escapee
When: 31 Dec 24 17:43
That's my point nanny, You're angry at the wrong people.

No doubt you read the news that Elon Musk has been lobbying UK & EU Governments to put taxes & Tarrifs on UK petrol cars to fund subsidies for his cars.

If/when this happens you'll likely put up a thread blaming greta, but AFAIK, Elon will trouser the lot.

Your high electricity bill is the pay off for some other billionaires making political donations and lobbying government. It ain't a product of some smelly tree huggers blocking the streets for a week.
By:
macarony
When: 31 Dec 24 18:09
I am all for renewable energy I have solar panels fitted to my house, shed and allotment, the problem I have however is where the renewables are situated, and who we are paying into the bargain?  IMO every town city and farm should be providing a mixture of renewable energy to the local area, this would provide safe energy free from external stress and crisis and stop bleeding money away from the local area. Invest in renewable energy locally it makes not only the most sense but the only feasible option
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Dec 24 18:22
Greta has left the green mob Escapee ,she has now Joined the Palestine protests , Regarding very wealthy people her family have becaome Multi Millionaire from the Green Business

I wonder  how they will make money out of the Palestinian Cause ?

I'm all for Cheap Clean Energy , sometime in my life time would be helpful

Also Recycling as much as possible

Ev's if you want one No problem ,I dont

Heat Pumps same

Massive Carbon Eating Plants a Total waste of money imo , Nothing the UK does on that front will change anything Climate wise

Sending billions to corrupt Governments  for Climate Change is also a No no for me
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 31 Dec 24 20:12
Supposed to be a big announcement coming on grants and loans for solar panels coming isn't there. Great news.


But bad news for those desperate to keep us on the hook of Putin and the sheikhs.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 31 Dec 24 22:19
The reluctance to move to solar,wind.

Is because there’s no raw material,that you can show to justify charging for,wind and sun.it looks,feels free,so harder to charge for it.

Plus,vested interest in fossils,control your excellent MPs ,who work tirelessily for you.they d never drag their feet on moving over to green energy,even if the fossil fuel industry offered them millions,they d reject this luxury future to do what’s best for you,everyone knows that.

Plus turbines and panels blight our country side,they would hide the bueaty of pylons and closed down mines,these fantastic picturesque structures,make Britain what it is.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 01 Jan 25 12:40
You can only move to solar and wind if you are willing to accept blackouts every day.
By:
edy
When: 01 Jan 25 13:07
Who wants to switch to exclusively solar and wind?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 01 Jan 25 13:16
Is switching to solar and wind but with a permanent coal or gas backup system really switching?
By:
Escapee
When: 01 Jan 25 13:27
Is switching from an 80yo geriatric with dementia to a 79yo geriatric with dementia and incontinence really switching?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 01 Jan 25 13:33
You are so lucky to be around at the beginning of the golden age.
By:
edy
When: 01 Jan 25 13:43

Jan 1, 2025 -- 1:16PM, Ronaldmcdonald wrote:


Is switching to solar and wind but with a permanent coal or gas backup system really switching?


Sure.

By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 01 Jan 25 13:56
That's great so we have all the expense of solar and wind plus the expense of running coal and gas powered plants. Good job we have money to burn.
By:
edy
When: 02 Jan 25 06:55
Would we not have any fuel burning plants in your model?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 02 Jan 25 07:57
We should use whatever is most cheap and reliable. Renewables won't be that until we overcome battery storage limitations.
By:
edy
When: 02 Jan 25 08:27
Good thing battery prices are in freefall.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 02 Jan 25 09:37
We are a long way from the capacity that would be needed. China is the largest producer of wind turbines and solar panels and they mainly use coal fired power to produce them. If renewable energy was cheap and efficient enough they would use it for all of their production.
By:
edy
When: 02 Jan 25 10:09
Ronaldmcdonald • January 2, 2025 9:37 AM GMT
We are a long way from the capacity that would be needed.


Good thing nobody is talking about relying solely on batteries tomorrow then.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 02 Jan 25 10:30
No but we are forcing a switch to renewables before it is economical. Chasing net zero targets is not smart when our economy is going down the toilet. I suppose if it was up to you people we would be sealing up all the coal mines!!!
By:
edy
When: 02 Jan 25 10:32
There are still economic coal mines in Western Europe?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 02 Jan 25 15:22
Not after you lot have sealed them up.
By:
edy
When: 02 Jan 25 15:45
Well, did you want all ze children to fall into them and get hurt?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 02 Jan 25 18:05
No I wouldn't want us to be like the DRC where they send children as young as 7 down the mines to mine the cobalt so your precious battery prices can freefall.
By:
edy
When: 02 Jan 25 18:23
Aw, you bleeding heart wokist.
By:
macarony
When: 03 Jan 25 18:02
You can make your own batteries quite easy, plastic tub, some  aluminum, some coal or other carbon, blanket & an electrolyte of your choice. Youtube is full of how videos on how to make one. They have a very high energy density, some solid fuel rocket engines are made this way.
By:
sageform
When: 03 Jan 25 19:32
But will they keep a Tesla going for 200 miles?
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