Jan 23, 2024 -- 5:49PM, truehoncho wrote:
There is no unadjusted data that shows warming. If there is display it.
Even though there is no good reason to use unadjusted data this graph does show an upward trend in global temperatures:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Observed-annual-global-temperature-unadjusted-pink-and-adjusted-for-short-term_fig1_258310059
.
Jan 23, 2024 -- 6:30PM, truehoncho wrote:
That data is nonsense Charlie. Its biased and completely out of contest. The only data that is clean is the NOOAA data that goes back over 100 years.It shows no warming unless yo adjust for time of day readings.
Unadjusted data is freely available on the NASA link I gave above, it's right at the end of it.
Jan 23, 2024 -- 6:30PM, truehoncho wrote:
That data is nonsense Charlie. Its biased and completely out of contest. The only data that is clean is the NOOAA data that goes back over 100 years.It shows no warming unless yo adjust for time of day readings.
On the off chance you meant NOAA
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature#:~:text=According%20to%20NOAA's%202023%20Annual,0.20%C2%B0%20C)%20per%20decade
.
According to NOAA's 2023 Annual Climate Report the combined land and ocean temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.11° Fahrenheit (0.06° Celsius) per decade since 1850, or about 2° F in total. The rate of warming since 1982 is more than three times as fast: 0.36° F (0.20° C) per decade.
...
Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gases, have unequivocally caused global warming, with global surface temperature reaching 1.1°C above 1850-1900 in 2011-2020.

Jan 24, 2024 -- 11:53AM, Mexico wrote:
DamIt isn’t “my” data. Unfortunately I don’t own the data of every single measurement since the beginning of time.Earth is about 4.5bn years. It was very hot then . Not sure why there were no humans around , perhaps the climate didn’t suit life 4.5bn years ago.Strange one. Wonder if the scientists with their fancy exams from their fancy universities have any idea why the climate of the planet was different 4.5bn years ago compared to now.Obviously has absolutely F all to do with the climate changes which have been observed over past 100, 50, 20 years. Dam. Just be careful not to fall off this 4.5bn year old lump of rock .
I'm not planning to yet mex.
i'm told life begins at 60
Jan 24, 2024 -- 8:49PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:
I agree man has had an impact on the climate changing undoubtedly, but with or without mankind the earth's climate will change dramatically regardless, the question is how one perceives their short life, sit and worry about it or enjoy the time you have left.
I'm not advocating you or anyone sits and worries about their short life. But maybe if you, or anyone, can do a little bit such as correctly recycling stuff or maybe the occasional walk instead of driving then so much the better. Maybe you'd feel better about it but if you don't want to then don't. Regardless of how you feel about our short life the data strongly suggests we (man) are harming our planet.
Jan 24, 2024 -- 8:49PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:
I agree man has had an impact on the climate changing undoubtedly, but with or without mankind the earth's climate will change dramatically regardless, the question is how one perceives their short life, sit and worry about it or enjoy the time you have left.
You are essentially advocating that people just put on the blinders for uncomfortable things. The average climate scientist will not sit there worried and scared every living moment anyway. They just acknowledge that there is a problem that should be countered over the coming decades instead of being ignored. Otherwie future generations are bound to not be able to put the blinders on. They will have to actually live in a worse version of the future than what could and should have been.