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04 Aug 22
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You'd have to be blind, not read the newspapers or watch TV and have no friends to not know the NHS is in crisis.
Up to 25% of beds are blocked because there is very limited social care to look after vulnerable patients discharged from hospitals.
Ambulances wait for hours outside A&Es waiting to deliver their patients while heart-attack and stroke victims wait hours to be collected.
There a huge shortage of medical staff from nurses to doctors including specialists like radiologists & pharmacists.
So why has neither Lizzy nor Rishi addressed the NHS during their leadership campaign? What are they frit of?
Do neither of them have a plan to fix the NHS?
Up to 25% of beds are blocked because there is very limited social care to look after vulnerable patients discharged from hospitals.
Ambulances wait for hours outside A&Es waiting to deliver their patients while heart-attack and stroke victims wait hours to be collected.
There a huge shortage of medical staff from nurses to doctors including specialists like radiologists & pharmacists.
So why has neither Lizzy nor Rishi addressed the NHS during their leadership campaign? What are they frit of?
Do neither of them have a plan to fix the NHS?
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I'm sure you have one, do tell.
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Training more medical staff and no tuition fees for them. Must work for the NHS for 7 years or pay back cost of training.
We have an Office of Budget Responsibility, why not an Office of NHS Responsibility? |
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What specific responsibilities would this new 'Office' be charged with?
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Some of the problem is down to not having care home staff as said in the OP,surely that needs urgent addressing?
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I would suggest they stop the French et al owning our NHS hospitals, quite ridiculous.
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Every country is in the same boat to different degrees,a backlog after covid In hindsight should have been training or schemes or a plan but not sure which countries actually implemented one if any.
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You can start by getting rid of health tourists, reducing middle management numbers who are paid a daily fortune and fine people for missing appointments that costs the NHS.
When you look at comparable countries we spend about the same percentage of GDP on health. Labour would spend more, but they'd also wedge open the door for more arrivals which would defeat the object as we found out under Blair, the influx put strain on schools, housing, jobs, NHS which is in part why they've been out of power far more than they've been in power since their creation. nearly half the budget is spent on the wages of the million+ employees to treat an ageing population (that cost twice as more as a patient half the age) which can't be helped. Only one way to pump more money in reality, tax rises. What can be helped is population control, make contraception free, reduce numbers from countries that breed like rabbits, round up all of Boris's kids and send them to a remote island, there's a few hundred gone already. Kind Regards. |
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Remove all the stupid woke jobs like diversity manager etc. A complete waste of time and resources. Sack all the management people and replace them with competent people. Have doctors and nurses that actually work and don't grift on Twitter like Julia Grace Patterson and finally ban the TikTok app so these doctors and nurses aren't spending all their time on that. Problem solved.
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We all know the problems the NHS faces and the biggest is neither Lizzy nor Rishi have a plan to fix the NHS. The pair of them are pathetic.
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If you gave the NHS £20 billion this year they would come back next year and ask for more. Useless at managing the money they get and piss it away left right and centre. The whole service is a shambles run by some of the most dimmest people you could wish to meet. Blair was right to bring in an element of privatisation but he didn't go far enough. Free at the point of use B!llocks and they need proper professionals and business people to run this behemoth of an organisation so we all get value for money and a better service.
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Anyone who believes the NHS would be "saved" and that all their problems would go away if the Tories were removed from power are extremely deluded.
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The NHS cannot go on as it is trying to cater for almost every illness esp cosmetic ones with its ever increasing users. The NHS is a financial pit the country cannot afford. I think a radical approach is inevitable in the near future eg a targeted approach where only major natural/hereditary illnesses eg heart/kidney/cancer/knee replacement, etc, are treated and fast-tracked.
I believe repeated users of NHS from self-induced and over-indulgence illnesses eg obesity ought to be charged a fee for each usage unless inheriting a defected gene. I believe the NHS is being abused because it's free. |
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Or you could be imaginative and actually try to fix the problem.
It's a very fair reflection of UK society also. It certainly can be fixed without privatisation. |
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Annual allowance tax charges on higher grade NHS professionals pensions needs sorting out asap as Truss has just indicated and not just for NHS staff. The annual allowance pension tax is ridiculous for people who want to save for their retirements and the lifetime allowance needs scrapping.
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The NHS is beyond repair because of the people in places of power who run it (overpaid socialists.)
What will happen long term is that private healthcare will grow until only the poorest will use the NHS. |
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It's not a bad idea is it Dr C. Just give people choice and those who want to make their own arrangements allow tax relief on private health care contributions as an inducement for those that can afford it.
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The animal equivalent is pretty good. I'd used them in the past thro' choice. I'd contribute £20 each time I visited.
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Private Healthcare doesn't do anything complex. Knees and hips and even then there must be free space at the local NHS ICU just in case anything goes wrong.
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The NHS was so busy last December they told all GPs they could cancel all check ups and planned surgery for the old and vulnerable to give more covid jabs to healthy people. Nothing to do with getting £25 a pop, and still being paid for the cancelled work
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I see Rishi crushed Liz in the TV debate tonight according to the studio audience of undecided tory voters. Likely won't make any difference though as the leader is chosen by the racist, white, elderly small membership that has been infiltrated over the last few years by the extreme right wing.
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Yes, GPs are on a good screw because there is such a shortage.
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I'll give it to you straight, SNC. What I cited is an example, but there are many.
The NHS isn't a customer led service. It services itself. It is autonomous. It does what it wants, what its sees is best for the organisation, not the 'customers' (ie patients), or its front line staff. At the strategy end it doesn't give a sh1t about individual people. Most of the front line and medical staff do. But its ultimate aim is to protect itself and its reputation. The whole lockdown / save the NHS thing, and abandoning all other healthcare was essentially about demonstrating to the world that it could cope with covid patients. It didn't care about the patients, just its public image. Until it becomes customer/user driven, it will always be fundamentally flawed. |
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Policies that matter aren't relevant in the Tory leadership contest.
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I am all for the customer. The staff get paid for the inconvenience of working!
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Forget about privatisation as that isn't the specific debate here, but I'm using it as an example.
Do you think any kind of service would get away with everybody needing to telephone the same number to join the same queue, fastest finger first style, at the same time, and if you are lucky enough to get through, you have to justify to the person at the end of the line why you need to use their services. It's absurd. And now they'll tell you you might get a call back in a four hour window, or have to do a video call. |
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The next time politicians are quizzed on the NHS being 'starved of resources', the politicians should immediately show some fight and point out the NHS (and public purse as a whole) is riven with fraud, as the BBC series 'Fraud Squad' and 'Fraud Squad NHS' routinely and humiliatingly exposed, to the sum of BILLIONS of pounds. The NHS is o eof then biggest architects of its own failings.
Most of the frauds exposed on those TV shows were so easily preventable (and detectable) one wondered why they had taken so long to uncover. One possible explanation was because the frauds had been perpetrated by persons who were NOT white, those in positions of management and accountability were probably afraid of being called 'racist' by Progressive idiots. |
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The carehomes lost 8% of their staff due to the insane vaccine mandates forced on them for Covid.
Society has yet to have proper debate on what to do about social care and NHS care. As the pharma-mediical-industrial complex gets bigger and bigger we do need a plan. No politican in for five years dares to make the changes needed. |
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Any plan to fix the NHS has to start with concrete measures to attract, train and maintain more clinical staff and end bed blocking.
Ending bed blocking is going to be costly and difficult because we simply do not have manpower to care for people in their own homes. |
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A pandemic of the quadruple vaccinated simpleton
I wouldn't want a relative anywhere near somebody who had had 4 shots of that filth |
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*simpletons
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politicspunter04 Aug 22 22:08Joined: 20 Mar 18 | Topic/replies: 41,367 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog I see Rishi crushed Liz in the TV debate tonight according to the studio audience of undecided tory voters. Likely won't make any difference though as the leader is chosen by the racist, white, elderly small membership that has been infiltrated over the last few years by the extreme right wing. Thank goodness for that, the last thing we need is woke lefties choosing the next pm. |
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I don't think there are many lefties among the racist tory membership.
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Thanks for those comforting words, I hope you are right.
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Aren't the tories super far left socialist these days?
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Yep, Johnson and now Liz spend money like Gordon Brown on acid.
Buy buy buy votes!!! |
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Funnily enough, if it was all lefties in the Conservative membership, they would pick the same candidate as the racists.
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They do seem to follow socialist policies edy and would have been considered far left 50 years ago. The goalposts have changed since then and centrists like me are now considered to be far right.
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