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07 Jul 22
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Without Boris the case for Brexit and the current hostility to the EU has no credible real leader.
Once the government accepts that they need to respect the NI protocol they signed fixing it will need a UK-EU veterinary agreement. That is the first step to rejoining the single market.
Once the government accepts that they need to respect the NI protocol they signed fixing it will need a UK-EU veterinary agreement. That is the first step to rejoining the single market.
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Never known somebody exert so much energy to save £180 on taking his dog to Europe
Hope those tampons are working well on your mangina |
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You would like to think so re the hostility part.
I agree that brexit itself has to be honored but if that is the case the NIP also has to be. Not sure about a 'single market' as such,i think it will be a massive help to people to allow things to stand as they are for maybe a year,ie no checks on EU imports as such. |
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A UK-EU veterinary agreement would cut a massive amount of red tape and allow the next PM to say this is not rejoining the EU or single market.
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The UK don't want to accept 'standards' though,i think the plan was to make their own standards for questionable reasons.
Common sense says of course but... maybe as in your OP things could change though it is a completely brexit cabinet and not sure the replacement will be too far off what has happened to now. |
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Rees Mogg going through 2400 EU Rules ,Lets see whats left when he is Finnished , and BTW the British people voted for Brexit you seem to be forgetting that ..
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No chance of a return to full membership of the EU, even Labour are ruling it out, but I hope that the next leader will try to get some sensible co-operation over the remaining issues over the withdrawal agreement but, sadly, most EU leaders are only interested in making a show of punishing a country that rocked their very leaky boat.
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BTW the British people voted for Brexit you seem to be forgetting that ..
Brexit was built on big lies. That's why they needed a big liar to sell it to the British people. Nothing the Brexiteers promised has been delivered and the only benefit any one can name is no VAT on tampax!!! Brexit as it is now dies the moment Boris is extracted from No.10 |
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Boris was dumped because he wasn't Brexit enough.
It was always the Leave plan to renege on the deal, always the plan to ditch Johnson after the 2019 election. Dominic Cummings has been explicit about this: "We only got him in (10 Downing St) to do a specific job." |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TNV5C9EkV4
"We'd only got him in there because we had to solve a certain problem" - Cummings |
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Uncle Nobby grasping at more straws than Worzel Gummidge having a w@nk
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Who did you used to be on here, Timber?
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he was jucel
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Ah right, thank you. Was he the one enjoying life in Thailand?
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No Border in the Irish Sea
LIAR! |
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US trade deal
LAIR! |
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We want fook all to do with Europe TBH , The sh1t is about to hit the Fan , The kNock on effects will be bad enough as things are ..
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What? You want to stop trade with Europe?
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The sh1t is about to hit the Fan
I thought that was going to happen straight after the ref, then during the negs, then when we left then………….. The thing about many of the eu laws are that basically we wrote them and made them workable, especially around trade. Lots of money will be wasted on a bonfire of eu laws that will then be rewritten basically ad verbatim and incorporated into uk law. We could of course spend that money on writing a proper constitution, instead of the series of conventions that make up the constitution now - you know use some of that really important ‘sovereignty’ that apparently was voted for. This country really is so much better than what we are becoming and any advantages of brexit are being squandered very quickly. |
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It is not just the laws as written that are important, it is the way that they are interpreted and enforced that matters most. The Irish border issue was always going to be a problem if the EU wished to make it one and they do. No goods will ever travel to France from England via Ireland and everyone knows that so the objections are totally designed to cause trouble. The EU has a cavalier attitude to borders everywhere else (just get on a bus between Portugal and Spain-you could be a Russian terrorist but your passport would not be checked) so why is Ireland so important to them? Because it causes a headache to the UK Government who have left their little club.
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get on a bus between Portugal and Spain-you could be a Russian terrorist but your passport would not be checked
both those countries are in the EU - didn't anyone tell you that? |
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@'The knock on effects will be bad enough as things are'
And what are they? The office for budget responsibility (British Gov) is costing the UK a loss of 4% a year in GDP ie £100 billion a year and £40 billion a year in lost revenue. That single year equates to 11 years of paying membership to the EU. Exports from the UK by small business to the EU are down significantly. And while not really brexit related, UK debt is now over £2 Trillion Inflation to hit 11% shortly. If you think Rees Mogg asking Sun/Express readers re which standards to put the scissors to is going to make brexit a success you have another think coming. |
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Rees-Mogg is an embarrassment.
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I've never understood how a rainbow of different sovereign states can function with the same currency but individual debt issuance.
The ECB as always are miles behind the curve and disjointed, whilst they are already coming up with 'plans' to avoid debt fragmentation (Italy etc) the markets smell blood. The Euro is close to parity with the dollar which, on a quiet day, may even find its way into our MSM. |
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people still 'blaming' the EU for 'choosing' to enforce it's external border.
thick.as.mince. The EU is massive trade bloc set up to protect its member's interests. its external border will be policed. choose to be outside that? then there's gonna be checks. I honestly think the people in this country have spent so long being lied to, that they think 'they don't really mean it' about stuff they don't like the sound of. wishful thinking, that the EU 'will choose' a nicer outcome (for us, good old Brits) is f'kin thick as sh1t. we chose to leave. we are now a (relatively) tiny unit of what we were. one tenth the size. our economy is tanking, our currency has lost 10% of its value, inflation is running at 11%. Rejoining is (obviously) the soundest economic course of action, but (see above) thick as mince so we wont... A country that would vote for Johnson is obviously not prone to good decisions. |
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Tostdog Sterling is mirroring the Euro re the Dollar but that isn't getting on MSN either.
The big truth isn't making the UK press of a £100 billion a year down the jaxx either. Johnson's great deal. You can fanny around it all you like,throw a dead cat here and there,cod yourself it is the EU's fault but the harsh reality is Johnson has banjaxed the UK. |
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very well and eloquently said bigpoppapump
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It's the structure of the EU/ECB that is the problem, not whether we are in it or out of it.
The ECB has just finished its securities buying program after completely misinterpreting Eurozone inflation data (which ranges form 6% to 21%). It has a balance sheet second only to Japan in terms of % of GDP and is now firefighting another EU debt crisis by using proceeds from maturing debt issued mainly by France and Germany to reinvest in the low quality sovereign debt of the likes of Italy etc... |
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thick as sh1t, thick as mince, yes very eloquent nobby
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Straight talking though HGS,maybe if you put -£1.9 billion a WEEK to the NHS on the side of a red bus people would be able to understand brexit better?
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I've been banging on about Sterling for quite sometime, you could see it from a mile off.
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post of the week from bigpoppapump 08 Jul 22 10:09
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