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casemoney
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At what will we be seeing the Jabber present at Births ?
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Report casemoney January 3, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
What point
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 3:51 PM GMT
trust the experts
Report casemoney January 3, 2022 4:00 PM GMT
Who would let their 5 year old child get this Vaccine , and for what purpose ?
Report casemoney January 3, 2022 4:01 PM GMT
Absolute madness
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:16 PM GMT
i expect 75%+ will do it, because they aren't right wing conspiracy theorists who believe the moon landings were faked
Report leif January 3, 2022 4:38 PM GMT
not bad considering the vaccines have only been 'approved' on an emergency ticket until 2023.

isn't it the case that if the vaccine producers can get this approved for 5yr olds they will get indemnity from any lawsuits if their drugs harm the patient?
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:40 PM GMT
has already been approved for 5-11 year olds i think

i think pfizer had a different vaccine specially for them Love
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 4:43 PM GMT
Register today .. 5+.. We want lower
16+ bolstered maybe it's 12 ..
Anyway no liability ..
Child abuse
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 4:43 PM GMT
16+Boosters
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:43 PM GMT
LeBron James had gotten into trouble for suggesting covid is just flu
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:46 PM GMT
WRONG FRED
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:46 PM GMT
I have the data here let me see
Report casemoney January 3, 2022 4:48 PM GMT
What is the Purpose of Kids being Jabbed ?
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:49 PM GMT
by 19th December

67.7% of 12-15 year olds were "fully vaccinated" (not clear if this means one or two jabs, i think some kids were only being give one?)

87.5% of 16-17 year olds were fully vaccinated
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:49 PM GMT
case the jutification is that it reduces transmission
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 4:51 PM GMT
Monaghan and Donegal are the lowest counties for vaccinations in nearly all age groups
Report leif January 3, 2022 4:51 PM GMT
money? protection from litigation down the road?

parents with rocks in their noddles will believe its for the greater good.
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 4:56 PM GMT
/\Well it is jab pass\health id. QRcode.
The greater goid
Report casemoney January 3, 2022 5:06 PM GMT
case the jutification is that it reduces transmission ,Well that in itself tells you the Vaccine is  not working ,otherwise no one would be catching it off the Kids ..
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 5:11 PM GMT
AZ offers literally 0% protection against infection after 20 weeks

Pfizer and Moderna about 10%
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 5:11 PM GMT
vaccines are basically 50% for 8 weeks, then 30% for another 10 weeks, then 5%
Report leif January 3, 2022 5:36 PM GMT
That's why the uk is already looking at another booster jab for the pin-cushions.
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 5:37 PM GMT
correct

the gap between number 3 and number 4 is expected to be 4 months
Report JetLoneStar January 3, 2022 5:40 PM GMT
isn't it the case that if the vaccine producers can get this approved for 5yr olds they will get indemnity from any lawsuits if their drugs harm the patient?


I believe this is true, but would like confirmation from one of our resident factcheckers.

Standard procedure I'm sure.
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 6:09 PM GMT
Hospital shutdowns inbound .. Can't cope on with backlog,emergency,moronic
Pay rise Confused

Ireland acknowledges the harm done to kids due to lockdown.. Tick..Sad
Has any average health kid died of moronic ?
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 9:11 PM GMT
Government policy .. Jab ur kids so they don't get sick and miss school.

Unacceptable risk' to open schools without further safety measures -The Association of Secondary Teachers in Ireland
delayed and staggered" approach to reopening
calling for HEPA filtration units to be rolled-out to schools, saying it "beggars belief that almost two years into this pandemic this basic facility is not in place where necessary".
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 9:18 PM GMT
how much does a HEPA filter cost?

that isn;t going to reduce transmission much

if you have an infectred child in teh class there is a non stop stream of virus being exhaled all the time
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 9:22 PM GMT
does this mean the windows will be closed?
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 9:23 PM GMT
washing hands + social distancing + vaccines + boosters + masks + HEPA filters

maybe that will work?
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 9:23 PM GMT
am i missing anything? any other measures we should be implementing?
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 9:24 PM GMT
maybe a daily test for the kids?

why not two?

one at the start of teh day ad one at lunchtime?
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 9:24 PM GMT
I recall they got mention here ..a good while back.. Like most "ticks"

Hospitals want emergency onlys..
Schools might not fully open
1 in 6 workers on a la la holiday.. Wet nose..ouch

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2022/0103/1269583-covid-ireland-schools/
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 9:26 PM GMT
what a farce if schools close again

has anybody mentioned paddy's day?
Report Giuseppe January 3, 2022 9:27 PM GMT
when are schools back?

maybe the 10th?

good chance they wont reopen yes
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 9:32 PM GMT
washing hands + social distancing + vaccines + boosters + masks + HEPA filters, .....antigen tests available for all parents and children prior to going to schools
.. The ones dr.tony said are junk..
maybe that will work?

Think a good number of teachers ect are on la la wet nose holidays , who could blame them really
Pay rise Confused
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 9:35 PM GMT
Most GPs.. Are only back tomorrow since before xmas..
Pandemic not a Xmas
Back for Jabbing time
Report shiny new shoes please January 3, 2022 9:50 PM GMT
Plenty of GPs never renewed prescriptions before xmas,patients are hoping they can get tomorrow,probably left in limbo.
Jabbing comes first ..

adiós.. Joker rte1
Report Giuseppe January 4, 2022 12:46 AM GMT
giving kids a vaccine that isn't fully tested every four months, potentially for years

a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmissionn that well

for a virus that poses virtually no risk to them

this is 100% sane the action of  society that hasn't gone bananas
Report casemoney January 4, 2022 12:50 AM GMT
Anyone taking a Child to a Vaccine center  Shocked Needs to give their heads a wobble .
Report edy January 4, 2022 1:23 AM GMT
leif • January 3, 2022 4:38 PM GMT
not bad considering the vaccines have only been 'approved' on an emergency ticket until 2023.


Source?
Report Giuseppe January 4, 2022 1:27 AM GMT
i would never have vaccinated you for something like this, when you were a kid edy
Report edy January 4, 2022 4:44 AM GMT
If I had been your child, you would have done everything to make me look (and possibly be) as ill as possible so that people are more generous when you make me sit in front of the station in hot summers, thunderous rain, heavy degrees celsius below zero and everything in between all day to beg for you.
Report potlis January 4, 2022 8:38 AM GMT
You would have to wonder at the morals of medical staff willing to vaccinated young children in the knowledge the risk the kids face is almost non existent and that the treatment itself may be the greater threat.
Don’t they swear an oath to “Do No Harm”
Report clouded leopard January 4, 2022 10:33 AM GMT
Opinions on Malone's statement re the kiddies ?



Full Text of Malone Statement
My name is Robert Malone, and I am speaking to you as a parent, grandparent, physician and scientist. I don’t usually read from a prepared speech, but this is so important that I wanted to make sure that I get every single word and scientific fact correct.

I stand by this statement with a career dedicated to vaccine research and development. I’m vaccinated for COVID and I'm generally pro-vaccination. I have devoted my entire career to developing safe and effective ways to prevent and treat infectious diseases.

After this, I will be posting the text of this statement so you can share it with your friends and family.

Before you inject your child - a decision that is irreversible - I wanted to let you know the scientific facts about this genetic vaccine, which is based on the mRNA vaccine technology I created:

There are three issues parents need to understand:

The first is that a viral gene will be injected into your children's cells. This gene forces your child’s body to make toxic spike proteins. These proteins often cause permanent damage in children’s critical organs, including

Their brain and nervous system
Their heart and blood vessels, including blood clots
Their reproductive system, and
This vaccine can trigger fundamental changes to their immune system
The most alarming point about this is that once these damages have occurred, they are irreparable

You can’t fix the lesions within their brain
You can’t repair heart tissue scarring
You can’t repair a genetically reset immune system, and
This vaccine can cause reproductive damage that could affect future generations of your family
The second thing you need to know about is the fact that this novel technology has not been adequately tested.

We need at least 5 years of testing/research before we can really understand the risks
Harms and risks from new medicines often become revealed many years later
Ask yourself if you want your own child to be part of the most radical medical experiment in human history

One final point: the reason they’re giving you to vaccinate your child is a lie.

Your children represent no danger to their parents or grandparents
It’s actually the opposite. Their immunity, after getting COVID, is critical to save your family if not the world from this disease
In summary: there is no benefit for your children or your family to be vaccinating your children against the small risks of the virus, given the known health risks of the vaccine that as a parent, you and your children may have to live with for the rest of their lives.

The risk/benefit analysis isn’t even close.

As a parent and grandparent, my recommendation to you is to resist and fight to protect your children.
Report edy January 4, 2022 10:42 AM GMT
These proteins often cause permanent damage in children’s critical organs, including

Their brain and nervous system
Their heart and blood vessels, including blood clots
Their reproductive system, and
This vaccine can trigger fundamental changes to their immune system
The most alarming point about this is that once these damages have occurred, they are irreparable

You can’t fix the lesions within their brain
You can’t repair heart tissue scarring
You can’t repair a genetically reset immune system, and
This vaccine can cause reproductive damage that could affect future generations of your family
The second thing you need to know about is the fact that this novel technology has not been adequately tested.


Despite these terrible things that he coincidentally doesn't provide citations he got himself vaccinated when he isn't even that old? Blimey....or does he have reason to believe that these super toxic spike proteins only do those things in children?

Why is he furthermore calling it novel technology if he chiefly developed it in the 80s?
Report edy January 4, 2022 10:43 AM GMT
Or rather keeps pretending he chiefly developed it.
Report shiny new shoes please January 4, 2022 11:03 AM GMT
/\ ho ho ho  .. You find the Greek mask update .. ?

Why are  many elderly vaccinated people getting infected .?   
vaccines don't  block infection, the jabs are mainly designed to prevent severe illness,to the frail.
France mp.. Treats ... Fail to rush new law
Healthy p labeled selfish by Frances jabbing cult
coercion is king
the point of vaccine passes , health id.. ???
Billy said so..
Report shiny new shoes please January 4, 2022 11:06 AM GMT
Democracy is at stake .. ExcitedLaughLaugh..
Bless they b scared.. Probably rightly so..
Old power systems failure

Cathy don't go to the supermarketExcitedLaughLaugh class
Report clouded leopard January 4, 2022 11:16 AM GMT
Despite these terrible things that he coincidentally doesn't provide citations he got himself vaccinated when he isn't even that old? Blimey....or does he have reason to believe that these super toxic spike proteins only do those things in children?



Imo he's just highlighting the risk/reward ratio for having your child jabbed. It's not even worth mentioning it's so skewed.

Children are still developing no ? Strengthening.

In what world is it justifiable to take the risk in jabbing children ?

It makes no sense


As for getting jabbed, yeah bit miffed but he states he is generally pro-vax.

What stands out most about the whole episode is that he is yet another who has been de-platformed in a heartbeat by the overruling technocracy.

So we're saying this guy is immediately a fruitcake and should be cancelled ?

Doubt anyone actually thinks that

Dangerous ground much ?
Report shiny new shoes please January 4, 2022 11:19 AM GMT
The 13 plus shots won’t keep you from catching the virus,  hopefully out of the hospital for the sickly
As Israel is finding out @ jab .. No.4. Plus flu jabs..total..6..

The vaccine joke pass point is? ? ?
Devil
Report edy January 4, 2022 11:25 AM GMT
I see, but these toxic spike proteins that do these things that he doesn't have citations for coincidentally......aren't they in the virus too? Actually taken from the virus? They are only in the vaccines because they are in the virus, innit?

...So...if a child comes into contact with the virus, won't it have these toxic spike proteins? Or are the coronavirus spike proteins not toxic for a very mysterious reason?
Report edy January 4, 2022 11:27 AM GMT
and how does he know all these things about the spike protein of a novel vaccine if he says you need at least five years to know such things?
Report Dr Crippen January 4, 2022 11:39 AM GMT
From above, this is what he wrote:

The first is that a viral gene will be injected into your children's cells. This gene forces your child’s body to make toxic spike proteins. These proteins often cause permanent damage in children’s critical organs, including.

''A viral gene'' is the bit to take notice of.


I might be answering questions on this later, but don't bet on it.
Report edy January 4, 2022 11:41 AM GMT
Please elaborate on that. I suspect the coronavirus does contain viral genetic information.
Report Dr Crippen January 4, 2022 11:53 AM GMT
Most youngsters will shrug off the virus before it can do any damage.
The vaccine is different matter.
Report edy January 4, 2022 11:55 AM GMT
Most youngsters will not shrug off the vaccine before it can do any damage?
Report clouded leopard January 4, 2022 12:10 PM GMT
Why take that risk ?

For what reason/s ?
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:21 PM GMT
When you initially read it, clouded leopard, did you not deem it a somewhat biggish contradiction to list all those toxic spike protein consequences when he says you need many more years research to understand the risk?

Furthermore, how do we know without five years of research if the coronavirus spike vaccine isn't even more toxic long-term than the vaccine spike protein that Malone seems to know all the risks of despite having no citations and despite him not having researched it for five years?
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:22 PM GMT
*Furthermore, how do we know without five years of research if the coronavirus spike protein
Report shiny new shoes please January 4, 2022 12:29 PM GMT
Does the vaccine subscription pass stop transmission . .. Sure it does ExcitedLaugh

Tens of thousands of people in total took to the streets in scores of German towns and cities for weekly marches that have organizers have labeled “strolls” in an attempt to bypass restrictions on public gatherings.
Tear gas\batons,dogs
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:30 PM GMT
Or any of the many other parts of the virus, some of which could well be toxic, right? You don't get those in the vaccines. So

virus = toxic spike protein and other potentially toxic unknowns
vaccine = toxic spike protein and a few things that aren't really unknowns

Win vaccine surely.
Report clouded leopard January 4, 2022 12:38 PM GMT
'These proteins often cause permanent damage in children’s critical organs'

'We need at least 5 years of testing/research before we can really understand the risks
Harms and risks from new medicines often become revealed many years later'


Guess he's saying in 5 years we can 'really' understand the risks.

Does that mean he won't know anything about the risks here in 2022 ?

Nothing much wrong with that



None of us here are anywhere near qualified enough but I do understand risk and probability


You would hope a few on this site do too....


And if you do, how in any way, shape or form can you support jabs for a normal healthy 5 year old ?
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:42 PM GMT
So is it also the vaccine spike proteins that often do those things, or for some reason only or far more often the vaccine spike proteins?
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:42 PM GMT
*So is it also the virus spike proteins that often...
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:44 PM GMT
By writing that spike proteins often do those very terrible things, could he be a strong zero-covider that's in it for ultra tough lockdowns? He makes exposure to spike proteins, as obviously found in the coronavirus, sounds super hyper dangerous.
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:46 PM GMT
If I read that list, I do not only want my child anywhere near a toxic spike protein vaccine, I want it even further away from any toxic spike protein covid exposure.
Report edy January 4, 2022 12:46 PM GMT
*If I read that list, I do not only not want my child anywhere near a toxic spike protein vaccine,...
Report clouded leopard January 4, 2022 1:00 PM GMT
Are MRNA vaccines built from the original isolation of the virus or are they 'modelled' to a degree ?



I don't mind admitting that I have little understanding of the technicalities

There is too much conflicting info
Report edy January 4, 2022 1:07 PM GMT
Yeah, because you evidently need more practice at filtering out folks like Malone that just spout off without much sense or evidence.
Report clouded leopard January 4, 2022 1:14 PM GMT
Sounds like you'd have your 5 year old to the front of the queue



Can you answer my question about isolation and put me straight or would you like to revert to the favoured default supercilious edy setting ?
Report edy January 4, 2022 1:24 PM GMT
Demanding an answer while you blanked so many of my questions is rather rude.

It is a slightly modified version of the spike protein found on Wuhan-Hu-1.
Report edy January 4, 2022 1:28 PM GMT
See e.g https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2027906
Report clouded leopard January 4, 2022 1:38 PM GMT
Thankyou

Did not purposefully blank

Do you have children edy ?
Report edy January 4, 2022 1:56 PM GMT
Do sock puppet children count?
Report edy January 4, 2022 1:59 PM GMT
Have you come across any instances at all where Malone tries to whatsoever explain why the (stable, known) vaccine spike protein is being all toxic and often causes those things he lists, while he feels comfortable claiming " the risks of the virus"? A (heavily) replicating virus whose spike protein mutates all over friggin' place.
Report edy January 4, 2022 2:00 PM GMT
Preferrably with him providing some evidence along with his explanation.
Report edy January 4, 2022 2:00 PM GMT
*while he feels comfortable claiming "small the risks of the virus"?
Report saddo January 4, 2022 2:19 PM GMT
It is obviously incredibly small edy, if any young people with no prior health issues were dying of omicron we'd never hear the end of it. Any parent putting this drug into their young children is stupid or worse.
Report edy January 4, 2022 2:33 PM GMT
Oh, I am not doubting it is incredibly small. I am wondering if clouded leopard has come across Malone explaining why the vaccine spike protein is being all toxic while he doesn't seem to think the same about the wildly mutating spike protein of the virus that we never quite know the shape of for any given infection.

With that I'm not trying to express that the virus spike protein is being all toxic (for children), but rather expressing that I feel the claimed toxicity of the vaccine spike protein compared to that of the virus seems inconsistent and dubious.
Report casemoney January 4, 2022 2:38 PM GMT
Anyone taking a Child to a Vaccine center ,Needs to give their head a wobble .
Report saddo January 4, 2022 2:40 PM GMT
Can you imagine living with yourself if your child suffered any serious effects from the vaccine?
Report casemoney January 4, 2022 3:31 PM GMT
Same with with being pregnant Saddo Plain Who knows what effect it could have on the unborn child ,Would not be 1st time a medical error had been made in that department  Sad
Report casemoney January 4, 2022 3:32 PM GMT
If anyone is over 18 wants the Jab let them crack on < 18 should not be happening
Report Giuseppe January 4, 2022 3:51 PM GMT
"If I had been your child"

Confused
Report Corky January 4, 2022 3:53 PM GMT
Have a word with his mom Jepetto.
Report saddo January 4, 2022 4:00 PM GMT
Case, my partner's niece was taken in last week because the baby (expected in 4 weeks) wasn't moving. She tested positive once in there, don't know if she was vaxed, I'll ask. Baby is ok but 'small' and they are gong to induce in a couple of weeks.
Report Giuseppe January 4, 2022 4:21 PM GMT
lot of pregnant women in ICU for some reason saddo

irish figures:

4.7% of all patients in ICU preganat

and only 1/3 are women

that seems very disproptionately high
Report Giuseppe January 4, 2022 4:22 PM GMT
1/3 of ICU patients are women
Report Giuseppe January 4, 2022 4:23 PM GMT
no further details on severity of illness etc.
Report saddo January 4, 2022 4:29 PM GMT
I doubt she'd have had any jabs once she knew she was expecting Giuseppe, she's not daft and would be wary even if it was offered.
Report saddo January 4, 2022 4:31 PM GMT
She was very surprised to find out she had the covid, not even a slight cough.
Report casemoney January 4, 2022 6:01 PM GMT
Hope all is well With the Baby saddo ..

4.7% of all patients in ICU preganat

and only 1/3 are women , Im glad Joe explained these figures ,I thought some of the WCG had managed the impossible ..
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