THE GREATEST UNION IN HISTORY

Ireland is wealthier now than it was when part of the union

THE GREATEST UNION IN HISTORY
CWU?

Lol,caps locks and all.

The EU United Island of Ireland,Scotland poised,tick tock,it's all so beautiful.

Thank you Brexiteers

dreadful clickbait - thought this would be about the RMT

I can feel the pain

Jim Larkin's ITGWU surely the greatest union of all time?

Propped up by debt Joey. We call in ours and the republic will have to sell off the family jewels to survive.

UK debt is higher

Ireland public debt is 69.5% of GDP

UK debt is 87.0%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

external debt is bigger too

UK 127,000 dollars per capita

Ireland 49,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

southern ireland used to be poorer than northern ireland, wales, scotland and england, now it is richer than all of them

Bravo !!

i didn't know you could parlare italiano case

ffs, Northern Ireland didn't exist until 1921.  lol.   What are you on?

lol great spot.

none of ireland was in the union until 1801

year you were born

nope, i was born after the establishment of the irish free state

i have never been a british citizen though technically we were british subjects i think (not sure about that part)

Ireland is richer? Based on which statistic? The artificially inflated GDP figure that only looks high as they are a tax haven full of huge international corporations paying very little tax as the nominal rate is an extremely low 12.5% but they are also offered lots of loopholes to lower it below that as well. I.e. it's not a REAL GDP by any normal measure in any normal country, it's a statistic based on money in effect laundered through Ireland with a minimum of tax paid on it that then disappears into corporations wallets. Well that nice little earner may be about to come to an end, as Biden is pushing for a worldwide minimum corporation tax rate of 21% and the EU is strong arming Ireland from the other side.

"Biden is pushing for a worldwide minimum corporation tax rate of 21%"

lol good luck with that

GNI / GDP figures factpr if repatriation of profits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GNI_(nominal)_per_capita

factor in

There is a clear unionist majority in Ulster and will be so for at least another 100 years
Quite right , cheers

who are we comparing ireland to anyway?

northern ireland?

talk about somewhere kept afloat by subsidies

lfc the protestant majority is already gone

NI is about 50/50 overall and the young are majority catholic

Dublin was one of the greatest cities in Europe in the 18th century

after the act union it became one of the biggest slums

the potato crop failed in the 18th century, there was no famine

it failed under british rule, there was

can you detect a pattern here?

If there is a border poll and the correct question is asked then the result is clear
Carry on as is .

They’re not daft in Ulster

"If there is a border poll and the correct question is asked then the result is clear "

because london gives them 5 billion a year and they know Dublin couldn't afford that

there aren't many catholics opposed to a united ireland in principle

teh nuts and bolts of how it would work is the problem

Here is the question to be asked :
Do you want to remain part of the U.K. and retain your rights as British citizens
Or do you want to leave and lose those rights
Including losing the right to live and work in the U.K.

Game over

it's not about rights it's about money, the NHS and civil service jobs

huge public sector in NI

They’re not going to want to rely on the south of Ireland to to find somewhere to work or schools or health care or NHS etc now are they ?

the south can't afford to subsidise the north's public sector to the tune of 5bn a year, no

It’s not just the public sector in NI .Thousands go to university in England , go into all sectors of work , engineering , clerical , financial whatever  find work in England , live in the U.K. and that goes on every year
Put it on the ballot that it stops if they leave the U.K.

why would it stop? people from the south can do that too

and they would probbaly retain their british citizneship should they so wish

i could go to live and work in the UK if iI wanted, even after brexit

Don’t forget to hand in your British passport also

after ireland left the uk in 1921 people could keep their uk citizenship and passoports

james joyce for exmple never had an irish passport, used a british one

Of course you can Giuseppe , but you see the south of Ireland isn’t an independent country
Maybe it’s about time it was ?

Joyce of course was entitled to a British passport

Well until 1921 , after that he should have had to hand it in to the British embassy

no he didn't

he was allowed to keep it

all irish people were (those born before 1921)

lfc if there was a refeendum held in the south, what % do you think would vote to rejoin the uk?

there isn't even a unionist party in the south

That was a big mistake , the English are like that , too kind

If there had been a referendum 100 years ago Ireland wouldn’t have left

there are 1 million people in the uk who want to join the republic of ireland

there is nobody in the republic who wants to join the uk

there were lots of elections around that time, unionists only won two seats in the south, one of which was trinity college and the other a south dublin constitency

Just walking home , too cold and blustery to type

I think the snp won 56 of 59 seats something like that
Lost the referendum

God you're one sad barstewrd lfc1971, even thinking about using your phone when out walking the streets in the dark!

I’m like that loyalhoncho , when walking it clears the mind and a hundred useful and good thoughts can occur
As you can see from my posts . Often bet when walking also of course

Is Lilibet, Queen Elisabeth 1 of Scotland?

Hopefully today marks the beginning of the end of the toxic union, royal family and tory dictatorship in Wales!

Covfefe and sandwitches sold here?

No, it's Welsh for "Quidditch Stadium". I can't see it overtaking Rugby as a sport there though.
Invented by posh Tories at an elite posh old school, the welsh nationalists needed to come up with another game you see.
Oh wait, I think I see where they may have went wrong.

And yet people today vote more than ever to break up said union.

Which is a shame. The Union has served the rich and poor well for 300+ years

If people want to live in caves good luck to them!

could be the unions biggest diversion politically after this weekend

england big swing to tory

scotland swing to independent parties

Doesn't matter what happens in Scotland this weekend.
The cry for a referendum is on the wain at 43% and the man from Westminster still says NO.

Who the f gave ackie's carer the day off?...usually not allowed internet access until 10pm..ffs.

"scotland swing to independent parties"

When I glanced earlier at the results so far, it was a swing of about 6/7% SNP to Tory in Aberdeen.

Sounds like Grant has imported Chinese bamboo ballots to boost the Tories!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1388859799475994626

At least some people are happy.
All the pols recently showed the support for the UK Union on the rise in Scotland.
And the election results show the Unionist parties with the biggest %age of the vote so NO MANDATE FOR INDY. Pleasing

GL with that.

Sturgeon stated many times live on air that this wasn't a vote for independence.
How can she go back on that?

there will be a majority wanting independence - the fptp section of the vote was a complete slaughter, the unionist parties are only represented in the remedial class

The Unionists have committed suicide,they have ignored and ridden roughshod over the majority and are going to get what is deserved.

Pmsfl Be lucky if the vote even takes place

The only way Ferguson will be having any vote is if she thinks she is a certainty to win it , be the laughing stock of Politics if gets turned over again .

case..she is head and shoulders above any of the other UK party leaders...even you must realise that.

would she make a good UK PM?

It appears the SNP haven’t achieved a majority
Send them packing Boris and they can try again in 5 years time

The approval ratings Nicola consistently  achieves is close to impossible...we love and trust her.

Democracy must be respected , I’m afraid because of yet another failed attempt that means no referendum

Nicola is down to earth hard working diligent does not take any carp from anyone knows her brief and is very smart ..and above all she has the common touch and can relate to the ordinary person in the street...a superb leader.

Keep her in place and she can try again at the next election
She might get a majority

what currency is she going to use

Sorry Joe but we really have done that old chestnut, to death..Nicola is quite clear on the subject

why is she named after a fish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Scottish_independence_referendum#Currency

After the three main UK political parties ruled out a formal currency union, the Adam Smith Institute said that the economies of Panama, Ecuador and El Salvador "demonstrate that the informal use of another country's currency can foster a healthy financial system and economy".[162]

Poor old Akabula must be having a bit of a lie down.

lfc1971 you continually show your smug, self-satisfied ignorance at almost every turn.  The Scottish parliament was ( and still is ) designed to very reduce the chance of any one party from gaining a majority.  Didn't you know that?  the election set up was designed to give a broad consensus across the house and to avoid dictatorial politics as per the rotten house of Westminster, where any fool can win a landslide.
The fact that the SNP got within two votes of that majority, after all the Whitehall and Westminster scheming and mud-slinging aimed squarely at the SNP over the last two years, is simply staggering!  The people have judged it to be what it was, a failed series of hatchet jobs, and have come down squarely in favour of Nicola and the SNP.
A simply staggering result for Scotland, which is why "Hides In Fridges" is holding out a poncing meeting to discuss the future.  labelled Covid it is actually about the future of the Union.  He is bricking it - plain and simple.

one seat short of clear majority honcho.

Didn’t Sturgeon say she would resign if she didn’t get a majority ?

More lies

FAO all unionists, esp the habitual liar Akabula.


Combined constituency & list votes, Scottish election:

Independence (SNP, Green, Alba)
2,685,805

Union (Con, Lab, LD, Unity, Reform, Ukip)
2,657,698

So there IS a mandate by counting the popular vote. Do remember though, it WAS an election and not a referendum.
iirc Johnson and his corrupt mob of public purse pillagers, liars and spivs, many of whom went to the same school, only received around 43% of the popular vote in GE19, yet progressed Brexit as they wanted. The difference between Westminster and Holyrood is the voting system, which, yes you've guessed, was chosen by unionists in order to prevent any party gaining majority, but especially the SNP.

One recent poll reported that among 16-34 year olds, independence had SEVENTY-TWO PERCENT support.

INDEPENDENCE IS INEVITABLE.

Got to wonder if the not at all missed forum hate merchant Alias is an old SK alias he's dug out after being made to look such a tit all day.
Both got the same amount of "intellect" and "charm".

Eh?

Alias is confused , less than 50% constituency votes for independence
That’s what counts you can only vote once in a referendum
No mandate