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Joe Biden will NEVER be president. Betfair don't pay out on a horse race until after the weigh in. There is a stewards inquiry on this race that will be settled in January and Trump will be awarded the race. How can this be settled now. Betfair are wrong here.
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You do wonder who is betting on the other side. It's not like it's a prominent market like "Next President". Laundering perhaps, not being a criminal I don't know if that's easily possible. I do know 3% would be a price worth paying if you could.
Still, I'm looking forward to all the books and documentaries post Trump. It'll be like watching re runs of Cheltenham, on the races I backed the winners. I think there'll be plenty of choice early next year, once the rats have left the sinking ship.
Still, I'm looking forward to all the books and documentaries post Trump. It'll be like watching re runs of Cheltenham, on the races I backed the winners. I think there'll be plenty of choice early next year, once the rats have left the sinking ship.
How are other banks only able to offer 0.5% pa yet BF can offer 4% and you collect your money on January 20? It's incredible 
The market should have been settled November 5th or whatever date all the networks projected Biden as winner. Anyone who wanted to moan about it could have been referred to the rules. This is the third time in the last 4 years I have seen a political market where Betfair have introduced additional or alternative criteria for settlement that was not in their market rules. I don't even bet on politics much so maybe there are other examples.
The Theresa May debacle has to be in there with the shoddiest.
Yes, there were 2 Theresa May ones! The PM after 2017 election where they insisted a queen's speech had to be passed before she was PM (which was not mentioned in the rules) and the date she would resign the leadership, which Betfair decided was when she ceased to be PM (again nowhere in rules) as Betfair were unaware you could be PM without being part leader (despite multiple historical examples). They were fortunate May eventually stayed on as leader as well as PM.
This one looks really bad though because of the amount of money they have made on it. The stuff in the rules about consitutional factors delaying the outcome was clearly only applicable if the network projection was something like Biden 265-230 Trump, with a few states up in the air.
Absolutely. However, I think this years Next President market has eclipsed that in the shocking manner of it's administration.
Not betfairs fault you don't understand the word resign.
The Next President market bred multiple (often ludicrous) conspiracy theories and gave false hope to many, who possibly had considerable sums involved. Some still believe there will be an outcome opposite to the market settlement.
The point was when she would cease to be leader. She said - about May 23rd - she would resign on June 9th and continue as PM until a successor could be found. Betfair decided this meant she would be Tory leader until she ceased to be PM. This ignored the possibility that the leadership would be vacant between June 9th and her ceasing to be PM. As it was she was caretaker leader until Boris took over, but it was not at all clear for a couple of weeks.
That you can't be Prime Minister unless your a party leader ??
Have ibas ruled against them in this instance?
pointless adding their correct decisions to the list they got wrong
pointless adding their correct decisions to the list they got wrong
I would imagine that IBAS could be looking at multiple complaints in the Betfair Next President market regarding keeping the market open when it was clear that Biden had won. Trump backers (past that obvious point) could argue that their bets should be void as there was no chance of Trump winning.
IBAS weren't a factor because Theresa May did indeed remain party leader till the day she stopped being PM.
They were certainly wrong in stating they would settle her leave date as July even if the leadership fell vacant in June. I'm sure IBAS would have had a look at it then.
They will settle Biden as winner of this market, doesn't mean they handled it correctly.
They were certainly wrong in stating they would settle her leave date as July even if the leadership fell vacant in June. I'm sure IBAS would have had a look at it then.
They will settle Biden as winner of this market, doesn't mean they handled it correctly.
yhtl they were saved by the tory party stating that she would remain acting leader until the new leader took over. So no point in going to ibas.
The very fact that the tory party issued the "acting leader" statement should confirm that there was an issue.
Trump backers still havnt realised they had little chance to win.
Unlikely they know ibas from ibs
Harris and pence backers might wake up sooner, and with betfair
allowing blatant ramping on their forum, it's hard to see ibas
not forcing a refund of steaks on those two.
Unlikely they know ibas from ibs
Harris and pence backers might wake up sooner, and with betfair
allowing blatant ramping on their forum, it's hard to see ibas
not forcing a refund of steaks on those two.
Suggests tories were on and wanted to ensure correct settlement.
But it would not have been correct settlement if the leadership had officially become vacant (while she continued as caretaker PM).
There wasn't a "correct" way to settle the market, there was an ambiguity in the rules and in the tory party constitution and iirc some nobs in betfair began to spout of to individual customers, when they should have kept quiet until someone way above their paygrade issued a statement.
In any case, the key learning point for BF is that once rules have been written, there CS reps should merely quote them and if those rules are queried, they should be passed to the original team who wrote them for action, if required.
In any case, the key learning point for BF is that once rules have been written, there CS reps should merely quote them and if those rules are queried, they should be passed to the original team who wrote them for action, if required.
Over the years many of these speciality markets are settled by
written rules and conventional understanding of terms.
That's why betfair were wrong to delay settlement on biden,
But there was no time to get ibas to rule before actual
settlement,
written rules and conventional understanding of terms.
That's why betfair were wrong to delay settlement on biden,
But there was no time to get ibas to rule before actual
settlement,
I agree about customer services giving interpretation of rules
But then, surely we know they know less than us, so tis pointless
taking their word.
But then, surely we know they know less than us, so tis pointless
taking their word.
The President market rules seemed pretty clear, re the projection of EC votes, rather than the actual formally confirmed EC votes.
Dec 24, 2020 -- 4:12PM, tobermory wrote:
The President market rules seemed pretty clear, re the projection of EC votes, rather than the actual formally confirmed EC votes.
I agree and that is why I believe Trump backers may have a case with IBAS as those original rules were not adhered to.
HERES WHY WE WIN..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLGleUGbwY&feature=youtu.be
The 'Next President' market rules were very poorly written. However, I'm far from convinced that those rules were not adhered to by Betfair.
In my opinion the market was correctly settled based on the Projected EC votes, rather than the Actual EC vote. It was simply delayed until it was beyond any reasonable doubt as to what the Projected EC vote was. I think that it would also have been reasonable to instead settled the market upon all states certifying their popular vote counts.
As there was no specific reference to US Network projections, nor any specified settlement date within the market rules, despite it seemingly being the majority view, I don't think that the market should have been settled based on such projections - unless Betfair was willing to cover the liability, if the projected EC vote, upon all states certifying their popular vote counts, differed from those Network projections.
However unlikely, I believe that almost any candidate could theoretically have won, under the market rules, prior to all states certifying their popular votes and possibly until the actual EC vote. Amongst other highly unlikely possibilities, perhaps a sufficient number of state authorities could have been persuaded/forced at gun-point to certify candidate X as the winner of the popular vote in their state, such that X would have obtained 270 or more Projected EC votes?
Regardless, there are many situations in which a selection that cannot win can be backed (or a selection that has already won can be laid) in Betfair markets. Whilst I have some sympathy for those on the wrong end of such instances, that is part and parcel of customers managing their bets and positions. It is almost certainly covered within the Rules and Terms and Conditions.
In my opinion the market was correctly settled based on the Projected EC votes, rather than the Actual EC vote. It was simply delayed until it was beyond any reasonable doubt as to what the Projected EC vote was. I think that it would also have been reasonable to instead settled the market upon all states certifying their popular vote counts.
As there was no specific reference to US Network projections, nor any specified settlement date within the market rules, despite it seemingly being the majority view, I don't think that the market should have been settled based on such projections - unless Betfair was willing to cover the liability, if the projected EC vote, upon all states certifying their popular vote counts, differed from those Network projections.
However unlikely, I believe that almost any candidate could theoretically have won, under the market rules, prior to all states certifying their popular votes and possibly until the actual EC vote. Amongst other highly unlikely possibilities, perhaps a sufficient number of state authorities could have been persuaded/forced at gun-point to certify candidate X as the winner of the popular vote in their state, such that X would have obtained 270 or more Projected EC votes?
Regardless, there are many situations in which a selection that cannot win can be backed (or a selection that has already won can be laid) in Betfair markets. Whilst I have some sympathy for those on the wrong end of such instances, that is part and parcel of customers managing their bets and positions. It is almost certainly covered within the Rules and Terms and Conditions.
----you-have-to-laugh--- Why don't you want to see guy's getting their money, what's it to you! I wish every man on here all the best and have in the past posted some good tips to other punters. I have been on the wrong side of a Lingfield judge calling the wrong result and never got refunded when she later corrected herself. I stand to win over £50,000 if Trump backers get paid, but i don't begrudge anyone who got paid for Biden their money.
I don't begrudge you getting paid out, indeed I would love to see it
But it won't happen, so keep depositing, hopefully there's plenty up
on Jan 1 for me.
But it won't happen, so keep depositing, hopefully there's plenty up
on Jan 1 for me.
Dec 24, 2020 -- 7:54PM, d-man wrote:
----you-have-to-laugh--- Why don't you want to see guy's getting their money, what's it to you! I wish every man on here all the best and have in the past posted some good tips to other punters. I have been on the wrong side of a Lingfield judge calling the wrong result and never got refunded when she later corrected herself. I stand to win over £50,000 if Trump backers get paid, but i don't begrudge anyone who got paid for Biden their money.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.138799270
d-man, this is the market for you, 30s is a massive price for Trump.
@d-man HERES WHY WE WIN..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLGleUGbwY&feature=youtu.be
Your youtube video.... only shows how utterly deluded you are.
Trump pardoned 2 child murderer's today, and it doesn't even make you question why you fanatically love him.
(amongst the zillion other awful things he's done)
You have been sucked into a ponzi cult.
Your youtube video.... only shows how utterly deluded you are.
Trump pardoned 2 child murderer's today, and it doesn't even make you question why you fanatically love him.
(amongst the zillion other awful things he's done)
You have been sucked into a ponzi cult.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.138799270
A lot of money last day or so on Trump retaining his Presidency and remaining as President until the end of his second term in 2025. Trump supporters should get all their money on now before the price collapses completely.
A lot of money last day or so on Trump retaining his Presidency and remaining as President until the end of his second term in 2025. Trump supporters should get all their money on now before the price collapses completely.
Dec 24, 2020 -- 7:48PM, Dave23 wrote:
The 'Next President' market rules were very poorly written. However, I'm far from convinced that those rules were not adhered to by Betfair.In my opinion the market was correctly settled based on the Projected EC votes, rather than the Actual EC vote. It was simply delayed until it was beyond any reasonable doubt as to what the Projected EC vote was. I think that it would also have been reasonable to instead settled the market upon all states certifying their popular vote counts.As there was no specific reference to US Network projections, nor any specified settlement date within the market rules, despite it seemingly being the majority view, I don't think that the market should have been settled based on such projections - unless Betfair was willing to cover the liability, if the projected EC vote, upon all states certifying their popular vote counts, differed from those Network projections.However unlikely, I believe that almost any candidate could theoretically have won, under the market rules, prior to all states certifying their popular votes and possibly until the actual EC vote. Amongst other highly unlikely possibilities, perhaps a sufficient number of state authorities could have been persuaded/forced at gun-point to certify candidate X as the winner of the popular vote in their state, such that X would have obtained 270 or more Projected EC votes?Regardless, there are many situations in which a selection that cannot win can be backed (or a selection that has already won can be laid) in Betfair markets. Whilst I have some sympathy for those on the wrong end of such instances, that is part and parcel of customers managing their bets and positions. It is almost certainly covered within the Rules and Terms and Conditions.
there are some real idiots in this thread and this has got to be one of the most idiotic and dumbest posts i have ever read on this forum - you are not making any sense with anything you are saying here
just on these 3 legal points alone, betfair will have no choice but to pay up when trump's second term is confirmed:
- they closed the market based on ''projections'' but the mainstream media had been projecting biden as the winner and ''president elect'' since nov 4th which meant that nothing changed after dec 14th for anyone who had only been paying attention to the mainstream media (which was most of the world) so effectively, betfair had just been leaving the market open solely to take and steal money from people who were unaware the market would be abruptly closed on dec 15th - this legal point alone will be enough to ensure that all trump backers will be paid out....
- the title of the market was very clearly visible in capital letter as ''NEXT PRESIDENT'' not next projections by a certain date which considering the basis on which the market was closed turned out to be an extremely mis-leading and deceptive market title to punters....
- betfair are contradicting themselves with the very unclear and incoherent statement they released upon closing the market - the same statement they keep throwing at you in the chat which clearly says that this election could be decided via the 12th amendment - the house of representitives which can only take place on january 6th at the earliest
so betfair wont have a leg to stand on once trump's second term is confirmed - they'll have no choice but to pay out if they want to maintain any credibility as a business
not to mention the fact that betfair just all of a sudden decided to sneakily change the rules of the market on nov27th which was totally illegal in itself....laughable....theres no way theyre going to get away with this - they certainly wont be stealing my money from me....
I don't think they will be worried in the slightest
about trump serving a second term.
There's more chance of elvis riding shergar
in next years grand national.
about trump serving a second term.
There's more chance of elvis riding shergar
in next years grand national.
A few things here...
1/ Betfair can call the market anything they like. Their rules dictate on how the market will be settled, not the title of the market itself.
2/ If you don't read the rules of the market and accept and abide them when placing your bets, you have no comeback.
3/ The election could have been decided by the 12th Amendment. That was in the event that no candidate received a majority of electoral college votes. One of them did receive a majority (Biden) so the 12th Amendment section in the rules becomes irrelevant.
4/ Betfair have paid out on their market rules and the market has settled and closed.
5/ Even if Trump is inaugurated as President in January, Betfair will not have to pay out.
1/ Betfair can call the market anything they like. Their rules dictate on how the market will be settled, not the title of the market itself.
2/ If you don't read the rules of the market and accept and abide them when placing your bets, you have no comeback.
3/ The election could have been decided by the 12th Amendment. That was in the event that no candidate received a majority of electoral college votes. One of them did receive a majority (Biden) so the 12th Amendment section in the rules becomes irrelevant.
4/ Betfair have paid out on their market rules and the market has settled and closed.
5/ Even if Trump is inaugurated as President in January, Betfair will not have to pay out.
youre wrong with every single point youve just made and am i going to have to take you apart once more? - youre probably a betfair agent
Feel free to respond to the point I have made. You can be assured that I do not work for Betfair.
the market title is very relevant in the context of deceiving customers with a big title in capital letters ''US ELETION 2020 - NEXT PRESIDENT'' and then having some little tiny rules tab which incoherently goes into nonsense about projections - this like ive said will be a very relevant legal point in the context of taking legal action - what youve written above about the market title being irrelevant is, well i'm not going to use the r word anymore but....
also the first legal point i made like i said will be enough to ensure trump backers will be paid out....
and in the context of the election itself - biden only got 306 electoral college points according to the mainstream media which we all know do not report truth, pennsylvania and georgia both declared for trump according to conservative news sources....trump has also won most of the lawsuits his legal team have filed against certifying these fraudulent democratic ballot votes in these key swing states - there are still 6 key swing states currently being legally contested, none of which have officailly been declared for either candidate and on this basis there is no way that biden could possibly legally have 306 electoral college points at this point which therefor makes betfair's actions in closing the market illegal
changing the rules on nov27th was illegal not to mention the fact that betfair put out a statement in the days right after nov 3rd saying that this market would not be settled until everything was beyond all doubt and this is another very important legal point
also the first legal point i made like i said will be enough to ensure trump backers will be paid out....
and in the context of the election itself - biden only got 306 electoral college points according to the mainstream media which we all know do not report truth, pennsylvania and georgia both declared for trump according to conservative news sources....trump has also won most of the lawsuits his legal team have filed against certifying these fraudulent democratic ballot votes in these key swing states - there are still 6 key swing states currently being legally contested, none of which have officailly been declared for either candidate and on this basis there is no way that biden could possibly legally have 306 electoral college points at this point which therefor makes betfair's actions in closing the market illegal
changing the rules on nov27th was illegal not to mention the fact that betfair put out a statement in the days right after nov 3rd saying that this market would not be settled until everything was beyond all doubt and this is another very important legal point
Why waste yer time on here, get some hair dye, and a camera
make a YouTube video with hair dye running down yer cheeks
Should at least get you a wider audience
make a YouTube video with hair dye running down yer cheeks
Should at least get you a wider audience
tinyelf54, here is a link to the official results. I am sorry that you think that mainstream media do not report the truth...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
Betfair didn't change the rules but they certainly provided updates on when the market was likely to be settled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
Betfair didn't change the rules but they certainly provided updates on when the market was likely to be settled.
and in regards to this betfair agent politicspunter's comments about this statement which these agents keep throwing at you in the chat....well in the statement it says''when the OUTCOME of electoral college points projections on dec14th is known'' - now the OUTCOME of these supposed projections on dec14th can only be officially known on january 6th so this statement is contradicting itself in 2 ways - the way in which ive just pointed out and also just blatantly alluding to the fact that this election could be decided by the 12th amendment so betfair will not be able to rely upon on this this idiotic, unclear and incoherent statement in a court of law
the very fact that this betfair agent is posting something from wikipedia confirms that this idiot is just trying to be provocative - wikipedia is mainstream propaganda
let me guess....this idiot was sent by laura beccaria or dave?
get lost you idiot - you'll be shut up after i get paid out....
let me guess....this idiot was sent by laura beccaria or dave?
get lost you idiot - you'll be shut up after i get paid out....
Rudi might be looking for a job, and maybe he can
lead your crack legal team?
lead your crack legal team?
I can assure you that I am not a Betfair agent nor do I work for Betfair in any way. Remember it is projections of electoral college votes, not the final official total (although are very likely to be identical) that decides the outcome of the market in the Betfair rules. The election cannot now be decided by the 12th Amendment as one candidate ( Biden) has received a majority of the projected electoral votes. It could have been settled by the 12th Amendment if no candidate had received a majority.
politicspunter is just another wisewords - another idiotic provocative clown
the legal points ive outlayed on this forum will be more than enough to ensure trump backers will get paid out and this pp idiot is just trying to be antagonistic....
https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/31643581/2020-usa-general-election-house-senate-governor-states#flvWelcomeHeader
Well, there are over 15,000 posts on the election on this thread started by yours truly. Feel free to browse through it as it analyses polling, betting, odds etc on every available market.
Well, there are over 15,000 posts on the election on this thread started by yours truly. Feel free to browse through it as it analyses polling, betting, odds etc on every available market.
20,000 dollars a day could be monets well spent
dave and those hypocrites on facebook are just jealous slime....none of them will ever be copied by the fukin news or any election now will they - fukin jealous slime that they all are
Not sure who you mean but I am not on facebook.
https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020
seems like the US national archive have put Georgia and Penn down for Biden, nothing about trump getting the EC votes.
Here's the Georgia certificate
https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/vote-georgia.pdf
seems like the US national archive have put Georgia and Penn down for Biden, nothing about trump getting the EC votes.
Here's the Georgia certificate
https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/vote-georgia.pdf
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.138799270
tinyelf54, this is the market you should be investing in. Trump is currently 30.0 to leave office in 2025 after completing his second term.
tinyelf54, this is the market you should be investing in. Trump is currently 30.0 to leave office in 2025 after completing his second term.
Or later than 2025,so when he gets his 3rd term they still payout
1 Jan 2026...
1 Jan 2026...
True, that 2025 or later option has every conceivable option covered assuming ill health doesn't curtail Trumps next term.
i got involved with the matchbook market entitled ''biden to take oath of office'' - no option instead, ive already put all the money i'm going to put down on this situation....i stand to win 120 thousand if trump is sworn in - in which case there would be no way that i wouldn't get those winnings - i absolutely will
30.0 is a huge price for Trump and every supporter of his should pile in now before the price collapses.
Truly must be a full moon, or maybe its the conjunction of planets
drawing out the whack jobs onto the forum.
drawing out the whack jobs onto the forum.
That's 6 days employing rudi if you win
He might give you a 7 for 6 deal
He might give you a 7 for 6 deal
Dec 27, 2020 -- 10:41PM, tinyelf54 wrote:
i got involved with the matchbook market entitled ''biden to take oath of office'' - no option instead, ive already put all the money i'm going to put down on this situation....i stand to win 120 thousand if trump is sworn in - in which case there would be no way that i wouldn't get those winnings - i absolutely will
I am certain you will get those winnings if Trump is sworn in. All the more reason you should be piling in at the 30.0 available on the Betfair market.
tinyelf54, you appear to have posted something about tennis by mistake?
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/forum/view/94186/165834/tennis
tinyelf54, hope this helps you, it is a link to the tennis forum.
tinyelf54, hope this helps you, it is a link to the tennis forum.
I’m not sure a link to the tennis forum is really all that’s required here.
Was getting worried for a moment when I saw tinyelf make multiple consecutive posts without having had mentioned Kournikova.
Oh yes, you’re often on tennis, aren’t you, edy? I could rhetorically ask whether he’s okay but I think we all already know the answer.
tinyelf5427,
I have no interest in getting into a lengthy debate with a seemingly deranged troll. However, all of points that you raised have been discussed at length earlier in this thread and in others.
Trump will almost certainly not be inaugurated the Next President. If he is, there would be no reason for Betfair to resettle the 'Next President' market, as Biden would remain the 'winner' under the market rules.
It appears that you believe there are solid grounds to take legal action against Betfair. I think that it is unlikely that any such action will succeed but I will look forward to your update if it's proved otherwise.
I have no interest in getting into a lengthy debate with a seemingly deranged troll. However, all of points that you raised have been discussed at length earlier in this thread and in others.
Trump will almost certainly not be inaugurated the Next President. If he is, there would be no reason for Betfair to resettle the 'Next President' market, as Biden would remain the 'winner' under the market rules.
It appears that you believe there are solid grounds to take legal action against Betfair. I think that it is unlikely that any such action will succeed but I will look forward to your update if it's proved otherwise.
Meanwhile 1/1000 americans have died from covid...
And I'll tell you what right now as well....I'm not intimidated by transgenders....☺....which both cornikovo and Shriver clearly are....no real women allowed in wta....
tintelf54, you clearly have issues. Perhaps it's time to stop gambling ?
Dec 28, 2020 -- 4:25AM, tinyelf54 wrote:
And I'll tell you what right now as well....I'm not intimidated by transgenders....☺....which both cornikovo and Shriver clearly are....no real women allowed in wta....
Do they often talk to you, elf? Is that online or through some other kind of method?
@tinyelf54 .........trump has also won most of the lawsuits his legal team have filed against certifying these fraudulent democratic ballot votes in these key swing states
Do you have any source for this?
The main stream media are saying that Trump lost all 55 cases, so if you have a source saying otherwise, many of us would be interested in reading and evaluating your claim.
Do you have any source for this?
The main stream media are saying that Trump lost all 55 cases, so if you have a source saying otherwise, many of us would be interested in reading and evaluating your claim.
Lads cop on to yourself, tinyelf is a troll, his handle is a clue in itself.
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/31677435/?pg=last#560308065#flvWelcomeHeader
I've responded here....
I've responded here....
Escapee has more than likely either been sent by Laura beccaria or dave.... - you would have to be a complete fool to still be taking the mainstream media seriously in 2020....escapee you're an idiot mate and I cannot be bothered with these trolls anymore....
Rock paper with another retarded comment....how could anyone think I'm a troll when I'm the only one making any sense ....you are the fukin trolls trying pretend that betfair were in anyway correct in closing the market when they clearly were not....you sound like a pathetic bunch of betfair agents trying to defend the indefensible
I'm done with you trolls....I'm not coming back on here....
Interesting that Cohen said today that those criminals pardoned by Chump May no longer be able to hide behind the 5th and may be used by the Prosecution against Chump.
Oh and I’ll have a shekel on tiny posting again
Oh and I’ll have a shekel on tiny posting again
tinyelf54, You need to be quick but Trump is a fantastic price in this market (28s now and coming in all the time) to retain the Presidency till 2025.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.138799270
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.138799270
Dec 29, 2020 -- 1:17AM, rock piper wrote:
Lads cop on to yourself, tinyelf is a troll, his handle is a clue in itself.
Can’t tell with this one. I think it’s possible he’s for real, worrying though that is as a concept.
Can’t tell with this one. I think it’s possible he’s for real, worrying though that is as a concept.
Almost all the Trump conspiritards write their name for a living, most of them are licking the beer out of bottle tops until they get paid again, not too many is able to have a few K on their fav wannabe dictator.
Almost all the Trump conspiritards write their name for a living, most of them are licking the beer out of bottle tops until they get paid again, not too many is able to have a few K on their fav wannabe dictator.
I think Tinyelf54 puts forward some good points... also on the day of the election as you know the count was stopped and from that moment on the whole election was in dispute and so became a "Contested Election". It was therefore wrong to settle the bet when massive cases of voting fraud had yet to be fully investigated, Biden could well of reached his figure fraudulently. We just don't know yet but what I do know is that the MSM lied when they said after the electors met on Dec 14th that they voted in favour of Biden, there was no outcome because the voting was split (dueling electors) also it would be impossible to know the result anyway as each vote is put in a sealed envelope and not opened until the 6th of Jan when both chambers of Congress meet to count those votes and announce the winner.
https://joannenova.com.au/?s=seven+states+send+two+sets+of+electors
https://joannenova.com.au/?s=seven+states+send+two+sets+of+electors
Might go down a storm on Facebook with that guff
But we know it's untrue, and for reasons already stated on forum.
Amazing another backup account comes out of the woodwork
to post lies and ramp an already skewed market
But we know it's untrue, and for reasons already stated on forum.
Amazing another backup account comes out of the woodwork
to post lies and ramp an already skewed market
How is it lies? did you click on the link, that was all over the internet on many sites that's how it works.
How is it a backup account it's the only one I've ever had.
You must be one of the sheeple who believes everything the msm throw at you.
How is it a backup account it's the only one I've ever had.
You must be one of the sheeple who believes everything the msm throw at you.
They didn't send 2 sets of electors
They sent one
Then trump and rudi made a fake set and the mugs thought
that would be enough.
Cheers for the cash
They sent one
Then trump and rudi made a fake set and the mugs thought
that would be enough.
Cheers for the cash
Primed139 Do you have any bets on Trump staying on as President?
If you're more of an "Arm chair Expert" sort of person, that's ok, not everyone has what it
takes too back their views with Money.
So I would invite you (If you have no actual bets) to have a £10,000 "paper trade" fictional bet and just
let us know what you bet on.
If you're more of an "Arm chair Expert" sort of person, that's ok, not everyone has what it
takes too back their views with Money.
So I would invite you (If you have no actual bets) to have a £10,000 "paper trade" fictional bet and just
let us know what you bet on.
Rudi had a press conference at the four seasons, it was funny
His hair colour is more real than your link
Amazing you just found this thread, forum, market and
never shared your comic genius wisdom with us before now
His hair colour is more real than your link
Amazing you just found this thread, forum, market and
never shared your comic genius wisdom with us before now
These loons have killed political satire. It started with Sarah Palin!
Joaane Nova is an aussie, I'm sure she knows what goes on in US elections.
She doesn't believe in climate change either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanne_Nova
She doesn't believe in climate change either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanne_Nova
Jan 3, 2021 -- 11:08PM, primed139 wrote:
I think Tinyelf54 puts forward some good points... also on the day of the election as you know the count was stopped and from that moment on the whole election was in dispute and so became a "Contested Election". It was therefore wrong to settle the bet when massive cases of voting fraud had yet to be fully investigated, Biden could well of reached his figure fraudulently. We just don't know yet but what I do know is that the MSM lied when they said after the electors met on Dec 14th that they voted in favour of Biden, there was no outcome because the voting was split (dueling electors)
primed139 • January 3, 2021 11:08 PM GMT
I think Tinyelf54 puts forward some good points... also on the day of the election as you know the count was stopped and from that moment on the whole election was in dispute and so became a "Contested Election". It was therefore wrong to settle the bet when massive cases of voting fraud had yet to be fully investigated, Biden could well of reached his figure fraudulently. We just don't know yet but what I do know is that the MSM lied when they said after the electors met on Dec 14th that they voted in favour of Biden, there was no outcome because the voting was split (dueling electors) also it would be impossible to know the result anyway as each vote is put in a sealed envelope and not opened until the 6th of Jan when both chambers of Congress meet to count those votes and announce the winner.
https://joannenova.com.au/?s=seven+states+send+two+sets+of+electors
Total Hokum
I think Tinyelf54 puts forward some good points... also on the day of the election as you know the count was stopped and from that moment on the whole election was in dispute and so became a "Contested Election". It was therefore wrong to settle the bet when massive cases of voting fraud had yet to be fully investigated, Biden could well of reached his figure fraudulently. We just don't know yet but what I do know is that the MSM lied when they said after the electors met on Dec 14th that they voted in favour of Biden, there was no outcome because the voting was split (dueling electors) also it would be impossible to know the result anyway as each vote is put in a sealed envelope and not opened until the 6th of Jan when both chambers of Congress meet to count those votes and announce the winner.
https://joannenova.com.au/?s=seven+states+send+two+sets+of+electors
Total Hokum
Wisconsin Democratic Rep. Who Tested Positive For COVID-19 Six Days Ago Voted For Pelosi On House Floor
d-man, when are Betfair going to pay out on Trump please?
I haven`t posted on here since election day, and I see many posts pondering my whereabouts, accusing me of running away. Here`s my post from election night 2016;
timbuctooth 09 Nov 16 08:40
Clinton concedes.
Never in doubt.
When it comes to late nights, I don`t think I`ve ever been accused of being a lightweight, GB2, I`ve been here all night! You might know I`m an Indie bookie, with a large part of my life determined by luck. It`s not a big step from `luck` to `superstition`, and if I find something is `working`, I stick with it. As such, when I was posting earlier, I noticed that every time I posted, events turned against me; as soon as I`d stop posting, things improved. So, I didn`t want to bok anything by posting, even ignoring Tom`s enquiries into my whereabouts. Sorry, Tom, but I just couldn`t risk posting.
Well done all winners, but now it`s bedtime. Good night.
So, as you can see, I have form for not posting about any result until it`s actually over. 2020 is now officially over, so I won`t be bokking anything by posting, and it`s time for the truth to be established, once and for all.
In my absence, a number of posters have repeatedly lied about me, with pp being the main culprit. Some of you may recall that, pre-election, on numerous occasions I had asked these posters to stop their lying, to stop asserting that I had lost in the `dem nom` market, and that I offered up a challenge to any of the liars; if I produced PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE that they were lying, they would leave the forum forever and, if I couldn`t produce PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE, I would leave. None of them were brave or confident enough to take me up on it, with pp hiding behind the coward`s cloak of having blocked me, pretending he couldn`t see my challenge, and edy being particularly weaselly about it.
pp even resorted to stalking me on the `Specials` forum, being his usual unpleasant self, but he was sharply hounded off by my fellow posters, who`ve known me long enough to know I was telling the truth, he was lying.
The original lies referred only to the `dem nom` market, but pp has since extended the lies, to include the `POTUS` market as well, which he has bored everyone with, by repeatedly posting his lies.
Here`s the PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE that, contrary to pp`s lies, I did not lose on both markets, I wasn`t `wiped out` as he has gleefully, maliciously and erroneously, posted frequently, I won. On both.
(I`m not a techie, had assumed the clips would play one after the other, but seems not, you have to go back each time to get the next one. The first four are `POTUS`, the last three `dem nom`)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq1E1UhR29p65vk2bkVmuaQ
As posted at the time, both clients and friends have seen these lies, they have real-life consequences, so it`s imperative that the world knows pp has been lying all the time, while I was telling the truth; as such, not wanting anybody to be left with the wrong impression, wanting to reach every single person who might have read pp`s lies, I shall be posting this on numerous threads.
timbuctooth 09 Nov 16 08:40
Clinton concedes.
Never in doubt.
When it comes to late nights, I don`t think I`ve ever been accused of being a lightweight, GB2, I`ve been here all night! You might know I`m an Indie bookie, with a large part of my life determined by luck. It`s not a big step from `luck` to `superstition`, and if I find something is `working`, I stick with it. As such, when I was posting earlier, I noticed that every time I posted, events turned against me; as soon as I`d stop posting, things improved. So, I didn`t want to bok anything by posting, even ignoring Tom`s enquiries into my whereabouts. Sorry, Tom, but I just couldn`t risk posting.
Well done all winners, but now it`s bedtime. Good night.
So, as you can see, I have form for not posting about any result until it`s actually over. 2020 is now officially over, so I won`t be bokking anything by posting, and it`s time for the truth to be established, once and for all.
In my absence, a number of posters have repeatedly lied about me, with pp being the main culprit. Some of you may recall that, pre-election, on numerous occasions I had asked these posters to stop their lying, to stop asserting that I had lost in the `dem nom` market, and that I offered up a challenge to any of the liars; if I produced PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE that they were lying, they would leave the forum forever and, if I couldn`t produce PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE, I would leave. None of them were brave or confident enough to take me up on it, with pp hiding behind the coward`s cloak of having blocked me, pretending he couldn`t see my challenge, and edy being particularly weaselly about it.
pp even resorted to stalking me on the `Specials` forum, being his usual unpleasant self, but he was sharply hounded off by my fellow posters, who`ve known me long enough to know I was telling the truth, he was lying.
The original lies referred only to the `dem nom` market, but pp has since extended the lies, to include the `POTUS` market as well, which he has bored everyone with, by repeatedly posting his lies.
Here`s the PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE that, contrary to pp`s lies, I did not lose on both markets, I wasn`t `wiped out` as he has gleefully, maliciously and erroneously, posted frequently, I won. On both.
(I`m not a techie, had assumed the clips would play one after the other, but seems not, you have to go back each time to get the next one. The first four are `POTUS`, the last three `dem nom`)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq1E1UhR29p65vk2bkVmuaQ
As posted at the time, both clients and friends have seen these lies, they have real-life consequences, so it`s imperative that the world knows pp has been lying all the time, while I was telling the truth; as such, not wanting anybody to be left with the wrong impression, wanting to reach every single person who might have read pp`s lies, I shall be posting this on numerous threads.
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