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Anyone who wants to sell to the U.K. will have to adhere to U.K. standards , that’s how it is .
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Unless its escaped your notice (quite likely) the C€ mark will be accepted by UK (and UK businesses) for an indeterminate time period - so no need to get any makey-up UK mark until then,
Besides - my point all along was - who sets the standards for global trade ? Somebody must. At the moment it is the EU, likely to be that way - so businesses in UK will be no different than businesses in China, India, Japan and Australia etc - may as well produce to EU standards. The Uk satndard is irrelevant in a global world. Do you think if my business in Cornwall which has an EU authenticated (ie. EU resident authorisation ) manufacturing mark and I'm exporting to Scotland and the UK hasn't invalidated the C€ mark as yet, I'm going to the bother and cost of getting an UK mark? Am I f^ck, wont bother my ar3e. |
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And of course - the government as if the govt is going to tell business you cant export to EU (and follow EU standards) and must follow UK standards - we'll be waiting for one
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Of course if you are exporting to the EU then you have to meet EU standards
Anyone exporting to the U.K. has to meet U.K. standards or they cant export to the U.K. |
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.....and if you want export globally whose standards do you follow? Two choices really - EU or US. (UK standards obviously dont count).
Global Britain ?? But there you go.I know and you know - any businesses here who export will adhere to the C€ mark so I don't really see the point of UK 'mark'. To be ignored, basically. |
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We need the U.K. standard mark to ensure the quality and safety of products coming into Britain from other countries such as China or Brazil or Germany or France ......
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Big world , the EU are only bit part players , Britain controlled half the world at one time , large part by trade
Can do so again |
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The world would certainly be a much better place today if Britain still controlled it , or most of it
Who could deny that? |
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Wha!!!!!
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Not only that - not many former colonies rue our passing / demise. Not seen 'globally' as great benefactors
to anyone but ourselves.Issue we now have with the dreaded "EU" is that they were colonisers too and are consequently well able for our 'perfidious' ways - kind of expected from us really. We haven't disappointed them . Some funny quotes available from various EU ministers.Still, bottom line is we can FO. . And bonne chnace |
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In Britain we know how to trade I think we can safely agree on that
Our fishing waters , our fish ! |
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'knew' - not sure about 'know' any more.
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'knew' - not sure about 'know' any more.
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The EU seems to think we are a country applying for membership
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First hand experience in my own industry is the unbelievable and mind-boggling (no exaggeration)lack of preparedness of behalf of UK for end of year - the real Brexit.
My own area is mostly being moved to Dublin - but EU legal conditions are attached to remaining piece - no advice, guidance or even a f*ckin' clue received from govt. departments. This is now costing jobs - more now being sent to Dublin to be on safe side; my own view its not necessary to be moved, but I'm being over-ruled because of the ' legislative vacuum'. very sad, these are real people / families involved. |
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So Wrong.
We are country who are leaving/left, EU accept that - but we just keep hanging around. Brexit is not news or big concern in EU. You would do well to see it even mentioned in EU newspapers, let alone TV. Most EU citizens think we have left ![]() |
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Outside of Ireland, Denmark, Netherlands - Brexit is not that big a deal.
I read that EU trade has expanded more globally than total UK trade since Brexit referendum !! Also Irish have moved total from trade with Uk = 15% to less than 10% in 4 years under their government advice. Its still a big hit, but they seem to be working towards life with less trade with us than we seem to be trading less with EU - its somehow ' they'll come to their senses' when they are 10 times bigger than us !!! |
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Britain controlled half the world at one time , large part by trade
Can do so again Oh dear oh dear. Here we have it in a nutshell. The brexiteers have this fantasy that we can regain the British Empire. This level of self delusion is staggering. Even Reece-Mogg admits the UK is in for a serious financial shock from Brexit and took pains to make sure his own company is based in the EU and not England to avoid “difficulty”. I was not a remainer. But brexiteers thinking brexit is going to see Rule Britannia played in Delhi, Melbourne and Quebec and that we will be better off are in complete denial. |
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That is some opening post,yer like the feckin circus lads
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Its UK standards when it suits.
I have read some rubbish on here and posted a lot myself but to say that a lot of the world would still love to be ruled by Britain is by some way the most ridiculous. Britain was consistently one fingered when we left and the mess we created is still evident. An american friend of mine maintains that the greatest thing his country did was kick British arses out before too much damage was done. It is hard to argue with that. |
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The level of 'unpreparedness' for January 1st is absolutely stunning.
If I want to move any item / component to Europe I'll need the C€ mark. I suppose we'll not be ready with the UK mark thing - I mean what are they? What body / bodies sets these standards (BSI? maybe)- like our customs infrastructure and IT systems I assume it doesn't exist yet or isn't scaled-up sufficiently. How does something as huge and pivotal for industry get set-up in a few weeks ?Until its in place I assume our manufacturing continues to adhere to EU standards for the foreseeable - what else can they do? When it is in place our businesses (those who deal with Europe) - will have to adhere to two standards? We had huge input into EU standards, many taken directly from existing British standards for those things where we were industry leaders. Now as these rules evolve there will be no consultation with our businesses/industries but we'll still have to conform to trade. Taking back control !! I think the plan might have been mutual acceptance of standards - but we were (rightfully ) told to do one. Brexit means Brexit as we were reminded. |
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op MISSED a few U turns and fake lorry parks
Everyone is laughing at Britain the UK in particular the English part.. The Tories are infested with corruption and mismanagement, they fail at every turn, people now just expect failure. I stated on here from day 1 that app was doomed and would never see the light of day. Everyone is gearing for the exit doors, they know it's only going to get worse and for a very long time....... TORIES ARE DOOMED............BRITAIN IS DISINTEGRATING |
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Americans are not usually as rude as that moondan , are you sure he is American ? ( maybe Irish )
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Says the man applying for an Irish passport, what a cheeky fcuking prrick.
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there you go ..What’s his surname moon |
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Remainers and Scots separatists like wallflower seem to have difficulty taking on information
All EU countries will have to adhere to British standards if they wish to import into Britain That will include Scotland if it is ever silly enough to break away I can’t say it any simpler than that |
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Conformite Europeene,if you get up off your chair and pull the plug out of the tv and have a good look at it,you will see 2 little letters C and E, i gave you the answer at the start of the sentence but guess what it means?
Well done,made in Europe. That is the standard you have now, you can make your own standard possibly, say something like British Use + Made, tis up to ye,but you can't be robbing "C E" cos it is non applicable. There, i said it even simpler. |
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god knows the state this country will be in in 5 years time.i wish the scots the best of luck with their bid and only wish i could go with them.
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Tis some thread 19,feckup after feckup, you know it has been going on wholesale but when put in front of your eyes like that in less than a week you realise how chronic they are.
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and the cherry on the top having to wear a "covering" from tomorrow.how are folk with asthma or breathing difficulties meant to go about their business? do they wear a badge or and sign around their neck to stop the countless inquisitions that will come their way from the do gooding sheep?
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There are allowances for certain folks with asthma and the like.
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lfc1971 23 Jul 20 17:56
Remainers and Scots separatists like wallflower seem to have difficulty taking on information All EU countries will have to adhere to British standards if they wish to import into Britain That will include Scotland if it is ever silly enough to break away I can’t say it any simpler than that ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not sure that is true. It might be "simple" but its actually incorrect. The EU is saying they will not accept UKCA as an equivalent. Dead right too. The UK IS NOT saying as yet you have to have the UKCA mark to import to UK? Why not, you may ask? Think about it. They never will. All the healthcare, mechanical and automotive parts made in EU are needed as input to our own processes. We have no choice (a) either make them ourselves - mammoth and copletely unachievable undertaking or (b) accept CE mark as acceptable. It wont work the same in EU - its CE or no dice. UKCA is meaningless to them. Its all part of the endless delusion - we think we are the "sovereign equals" of the EU. We are not. We are "sovereign equals" of Germany, France, Italy, Ireland, Austria etc etc. but not the EU. This is 'bloc' of 27 'sovereign equals' so its 27 vs 1. When it comes to trade I'm afraid might is right and in terms of standards what the EU says is what goes. End of. |
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pp yes there are allowances.thats my question.how do people know ? what will your reaction be to someone not wearing one in a shop? what will others do? what will the assistants do? poor buggers will be treat like lepers.its a disgrace.
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Wallflower I will say again . If EU healthcare, mechanical and automotive parts are to British safety and quality standards then they will be allowed to import into Britain
If they fail these British standards they will not be allowed to import , We cannot put peoples lives at risk driving down the motorway or anywhere else now can we ? |
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People don't know, no one does. It's at the discretion of the shop if they allow you in.
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I’m sure once they understand that simple principle all will be well
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british standards will be a thing of the past in a few years time.cash is king to the greedy billionaires running the show now.
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I am sorry to say there are greedy people all over the world
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pp so asthmatics could be refused? a bit discriminatory surely?
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