Sep 10, 2019 -- 7:24PM, 1st time poster wrote:
was talking about it today,people cant seperate the people from the policy, the snp are hated by most but ian blackfoot is in a different lg in his common performances compared to the other 3 stooges, imho
Not hated by me, they are doing their best to represent the folks in their country and from looking at polling data, making a good job of it.
Sep 10, 2019 -- 7:38PM, 1st time poster wrote:
not looking like going with a deal erg,brexit party will support,so majority labour leavers in north will vote Brexit party imo, .I,m 60 in nov my dads still alive and he,d disown me if I voted tory,plenty more like it especially with a Brexit party optionunless some lady rises Lazarus like from ashes I,ll be watching instead of voting
And this is a common theme. Northern Labour leave voters are not going to rush in droves to vote tory, it simply ain't going to happen.
Sep 10, 2019 -- 8:01PM, differentdrum wrote:
Revoke totally ignores the result of the referendum whereas a second referendum allows leavers the chance to confirm the result of original referendum. There seems to be some confusion between an honest opinion and a democratic process.Personally, I would happily stop Brexit tomorrow but that is a much more extreme/less attractive proposition to voters than the stance they previously had regarding a second referendum.Yes, the Liberals have been doing pretty well but they haven't really pushed on in the polls since the European Elections and that 20% will be prior to the change of policy. I suspect many people won't absorb it until the actual Election.It may well be hypothetical because I don't think it is long odds against a deal before 31 October. I fear there are too many on both sides willing to accept just about anything and if they do it leads to a Tory majority.
You are correct to say that the LibDem vote is not increasing noticeably nor however is it declining. All the LibDems will be concentrating on is maximising their vote in geographical areas they are strong such as the West country, parts of London, Wales and Scotland and rural areas in general. That is where their canvass and financial efforts will be in overdrive, other hopeless areas will have nothing much more than a paper candidate.
Sep 10, 2019 -- 8:34PM, InsiderTrader wrote:
PP, you are correct.The more extreme the Brexit Party and the LidDems go the more voters they will pick up from the leaver/remainer extremes. Neither will ever get a majority but that is not what they are looking for.The Tories and Labour know this and are now moving to leave/remain but they are not are extreme as they need middle of the road voters as well if they are ever to get a majority.Will be interesting to see what happens.I like the honesty of the new libDem policy.The last thing we need as a country is more delay. We need a decision one way or other.
There are plenty of centre right former tory voters (like me) who are going to vote LibDem as they can't vote for Boris and are disgusted by the way they have treated their MPs as they lurch further to the right on a daily basis.