Boris Johnson

Just interested in what the real is issue people don't like.

Would they be happy for a PM to have a wife and mistress if both knew about each other?

YOU COULD BE A gay,crack smoking bloke identifying as a horse ,card carrying Corbynista,momentum member, married to katie Hopkins,support leeds utd  and tory members would still vote for you over a remainer,

Leo Varadkar is openly gay. It doesn't seem to have caused him any problems and why should it? He has been open and honest (unlike Boris).

So if the PM openly had a wife and a mistress that would be ok?

No, it wouldn't.

Is it not being open about it that is concerning?

laughable Brexit policy
back tracking on massive rick of tax cuts for the rich policy
personnel attacks
Brexit/farage brerxit party pacts
steve bannon video/tape discussions

can see boris pulling a hamstring regarding any tv debates and linton Crosby will be trying to nobble husting,s prersenters regards questioning

No, his moral standards are not acceptable to the electorate.

politicspunter
23 Jun 19 16:37
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No, it wouldn't.


^

Why would you be against that?

As above, in many earlier posts.

So you would say having a polyamorous sexual orientation in 2019 disqualifies from them being PM in your eyes?

As above.

if boris cant put farage back in his box as his leadership manifesto promised instead arranging election pacts
cant discuss his Brexit A LA CARTE,HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT WITH 2 CHERRIES ON THE TOP policy
cant understand wto ,tariff trade terms
banned from talking about raising higher tax band to 80 grand,

besides babbling on about London Olympics whats he got to offer anyone never mind the country

I am slightly amazed you would discriminate against someone due to their sexual orientation PP.

Like people discriminating in previous generations against gay people it mainly comes from ignorance.

Jun 23, 2019 -- 4:57PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

I am slightly amazed you would discriminate against someone due to their sexual orientation PP.Like people discriminating in previous generations against gay people it mainly comes from ignorance.

Stop making stuff up insider. You are off on your usual tangent of lies.

inverted pyramid of piffle

politicspunter
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    Jun 23, 2019 -- 4:57PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


    I am slightly amazed you would discriminate against someone due to their sexual orientation PP.Like people discriminating in previous generations against gay people it mainly comes from ignorance.


Stop making stuff up insider. You are off on your usual tangent of lies.

^

It is not lies.

You clearly state you do not think a practicing polyamorous person should be PM.

I don't think polyamorousity is generally considered a sexual orientation, as signalled by it not ending in -sexuality like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality and asexuality,

In 1824 the duke of Wellington ( when he was PM)was threatened with the publication of a book by his mistress
an attempt at blackmail he replied ‘ publish and be damned ‘

The book was published and the great British public didn’t give two hoots , in fact his popularity increased and that was the end of the matter

Oh hey lfc, good to have you!

It is not legally recognised yet and thus does not have the same protections but it is widely accepted by those in the field.

In time it will be and then those practicing it will be able to come out of the shadows and not be vulnerable to black mail etc.

Wellington was a great man , Boris also will be a great ,if he gets us out of the EU
How glorious

Hi edy :)

Even if it will be widely accepted, I don't think it will ever be classified as a sexual orientation. Just like monogamy is not a sexual orientation, and that is widely accepted I think.

i want to see lfc and PP go at it in debate

pp or PP?

Now stop listening to some of the sh1te from remainers
You see when people like that start to preach then I start to laugh , and jeer

Though personally I always thought it should've been PoP instead of PP.

pop pop!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyp9Qw12boI


though I meant politicspunter

PP is PorcupineOrPineapples
pp is politicspunter

Jun 23, 2019 -- 5:27PM, lfc1971 wrote:

Wellington was a great man , Boris also will be a great ,if he gets us out of the EU How glorious

Boris more likely to have a Waterloo Surrender than a Waterloo Sunset

Bozo is a conformed liar. Does anybody ashley believe what he says?

No tariffs on a hard Brexit?

Sounds like an inverted pyramid of piffle to me!

Our very own Donald Chump for sure! LIAR!

I prefer O4K really, but it seldom gets used nowadays. PoP or porc seems to get the job done.

I prefer O4K really, but it seldom gets used nowadays. PoP or porc seems to get the job done.

As long as he isn't boffing Jess Phillips ,

Jun 23, 2019 -- 5:15PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

politicspunter23 Jun 19 17:05Joined: 20 Mar 18| Topic/replies: 5,072 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog    Jun 23, 2019 -- 4:57PM, InsiderTrader wrote:    I am slightly amazed you would discriminate against someone due to their sexual orientation PP.Like people discriminating in previous generations against gay people it mainly comes from ignorance.Stop making stuff up insider. You are off on your usual tangent of lies.^It is not lies. You clearly state you do not think a practicing polyamorous person should be PM.

Insider, I think you owe me an apology.

Poly is you a bigot?
Is you a denier that their are 74 sexes.
Science says there are two sexes , and some people whose hormones are a bit bolloxed.

politicspunter
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    Jun 23, 2019 -- 5:15PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


    politicspunter23 Jun 19 17:05Joined: 20 Mar 18| Topic/replies: 5,072 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog    Jun 23, 2019 -- 4:57PM, InsiderTrader wrote:    I am slightly amazed you would discriminate against someone due to their sexual orientation PP.Like people discriminating in previous generations against gay people it mainly comes from ignorance.Stop making stuff up insider. You are off on your usual tangent of lies.^It is not lies. You clearly state you do not think a practicing polyamorous person should be PM.


Insider, I think you owe me an apology.

^

On what basis?

My understanding is that you would not wish to see a PM who openly was in a loving relationship with two different women.

I stand corrected if I have misunderstood you and you would be happy with that happening.

"I am slightly amazed you would discriminate against someone due to their sexual orientation PP.Like people discriminating in previous generations against gay people it mainly comes from ignorance."

Have another think about what you wrote, insider.

Simple question...

Do you discriminate against people who are in a loving relationship at the same time with two women when going for the role of PM?

Can you 100% clarify your answer to this.

Insider, you waste your time and other persons on here by arguing for hours about something, then, when it is pointed out to you that you are wrong all along (as Edy has already done up thread) you say it was your dyslexia, go off on a tangent, or that you were actually clear all the time and agreed with the other person all the time.
In the example here...

1/ It has been pointed out to you that polyamorous is not a sexual orientation. (by Edy and now by me).

2/ I am not against anyone because of their sexual orientation. (See the post up thread from me regarding Leo Varadkar).

3/ Please stop suggesting otherwise and going off on an unconnected tangent.

Otherwise known as doing a ''johnson''

You are talking legal definitions rather than the analysis by experts in the field to cover up your bigoted views against polyamorous people.

Unless of course I misunderstood and in fact you would not discriminate against people who are in a loving relationship at the same time with two women when going for the role of PM.

I notice you ignored that question.

Try reading my post of 8:40 pm. Please stop saying I am bigoted against anyone. Please also stop going off on tangents, post after post, thread after thread.

why not answer the 20:22 question to clarify if u are bigoted against polyamorous people or not.

'as above' is not a clear answer.

I am not bigoted against polyamorous people.

If I said it a couple more times would that help?

Would you accept a practicing polyamorous person as PM?

No.

another great day of debate between IT and pp

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I am not bigoted against polyamorous people.



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politicspunter
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No.

^

So you claim not to be bigoted but you are happy to discriminate?

The Prime minister is a role that is only suited to a person that is in a stable,secure relationship with one person or if not, a single unattached person. For starters, this eliminates blackmail or security risks which are a strong possibility if the PM has multiple partners.

Many poly people have held the role in the past with no problem in this country and else where in the world.

Keep digging.

You are entitled to your opinion but I think most voters in this country would agree with me.

Polyamourphos is a cult.

Sorry about that but you know what I mean.The
Bloody Mormons.

Jun 23, 2019 -- 9:24PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

Many poly people have held the role in the past with no problem in this country and else where in the world.Keep digging.

Being poly is not the same as shagging about

The very reliable wikipedia page of list of polyamorists  - famous or notable - has 1 nobody politician from Quebec and that's it.

Maybe IT has a better list but hes probably confusing having a wife and a mistress with being poly

Boris has previously stated that Theresa's May's deal "is as dead as a parrot".
He didn't reveal if the parrot in question was named Polly, possibly fearing revealing his polyness

politicspunter
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The problem Boris has is that this not a one off relationship incident. If it was, he might be able to get away with it. However, his past is littered with infidelity, illegitimate children of an uncertain number, abortions, miscarriages and the like, it just goes on and on.


do you know this for a fact politic, you clearly dont like boris, you call me sad , you should look at yourself

Polly has laid Boris at 7.8 for £1.43 and is worried he is paying out

pritti pattel says her and boris team want to leave the EU as soon as possible,just said on sky that as part of their ridiculous,unicorn,a la carte,cake and eat it with 2 cherries on top plan, they want things to remain as they are now whilst they discuss a free trade deal,these deals take anywhere between 5 and 10 years and that's with 2 sides willing to compromise,so team boris .erg are that desperate to leave the EU THEIR QUITE PREPARED TO KEEP  the status quo for anything between 5 and 10 years, its like listening to the mother in law saying she,s desperate to go back home,
didn't catch all the interview but did the woefull,bland sj manage to ask pattel about her meeting with farage and arron banks,
boris  v  pritti pattel,  he hasn't has he

Jun 24, 2019 -- 8:46AM, lord skywalker wrote:

politicspunter23 Jun 19 14:09Joined: 20 Mar 18| Topic/replies: 5,055 | Blogger: politicspunter's blogThe problem Boris has is that this not a one off relationship incident. If it was, he might be able to get away with it. However, his past is littered with infidelity, illegitimate children of an uncertain number, abortions, miscarriages and the like, it just goes on and on.do you know this for a fact politic, you clearly dont like boris, you call me sad , you should look at yourself

What I wrote is fact and in the public domain. You should check it out.

We really need Boris to take charge. Ensure the cabinet is stock full of your Patels, Leadsoms, Goves, McVeys, Raabs etc. No hiding space. Whatsoever.

Full on believers. All remainers barred from any position.



Only then, when the unicornists come up against reality and are forced to tell their disciples that "y'know actually, they weren't lying this really is going to ruin us and we can't go through with it", only then might people realise they've been had.

watched the series about the A1 ROAD ON THE BBC THE OTHER DAY nothing to do with Brexit just a docu
showed a bloke taking a 250 grand load of shell fish from Scotland to dover with a very limited shelf live,the driver was continualy in contact with the AA,TRANSPORT control about traffic jams ,accidents, unforeseen road closures etc in case he had to take a detour

imagine that x how many 1000,s on nov 1st under no deal

Used to travel to Spain with a friend who delivered prawns 40 years ago, checking on ferry etc ,nothing's changed ,having a business means you plan .
Politicians are devoid of vision they don't plan they react.

Read the insider advantage a document that shows we have stood still or went backwards in terms of trade etc since we became part of the Common Market, and that is what is was ,not the eussr as it has become.

aaronh
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The very reliable wikipedia page of list of polyamorists  - famous or notable - has 1 nobody politician from Quebec and that's it.

Maybe IT has a better list but hes probably confusing having a wife and a mistress with being poly

^

It is the same thing is all parties know about it...

'characterized by or involved in the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7198455/all-of-boris-johnsons-women-a-rundown-of-the-affairs-flings-and-love-children-left-in-the-former-foreign-secretarys-wake/

If you read the article Marina knew about the other women and stayed with him. The other women would have known he was married.

'"He always goes back to Marina.”

His second wife has always put up with her husband’s philandering. One friend has said: “She sees it as a childish side of his personality which one day he’ll grow out of.”'

She might put up with it but will the tory membership of better still, the electorate of the UK?

or

M.I.A

This guy is gun shy! His own team don't trust him to stuff it up so they are hiding him, that is his own team!

What are the Tories playing at?

Gove must be fuming!

Anyone of any political persuasion old enough to vote, and chooses to vote for Bojo thus Prime Minster (PM) - by default - of Britain need to be sectioned given his lack of personal and professional quality to be one ie understanding the gravitas of his behaviour, subject matter and position as PM.

I firmly believe if the Conservative MPs and/or grassroots vote for him charges of bringing the country into disrepute against them ought to be considered. For instance, appointing someone after interviewing and assessing their suitability as the person entrusted to lead or manage the well-being of a company or country with negative consequences aplenty if proved negligent to do so. And, so far every Ministerial position Bojo has held had been fraught with disappointment and controversies eg Foreign Secretary; a London Mayor is only ceremonial unlike the position of Prime Minister who also represents the country.

I think the country has never been in a position where both the leaders (one probable) of the two major political Parties in the UK are unfit and qualified to lead or represent the country. What a sad state of affairs!

I wonder if the Military might be prepared to step in and save the country!

Can I put you both down as a maybe?

Corbyn or Bozo?

You can put me down as a neither!

If Bozo becomes Prime Minister would he attend PMQ's?

Coward! Unfit to lead!

its bad enough now imagine prime minister Q,s, with boris,stuttering,stumbling,blustering, away it will last about 5 hrs if Bercow,s still there

Yes, and that's just to get him out of number 10 to attend.

He'll have the Chancellor recording his domestics in future

At least he doesn't have to wait long for a policeman to be at his front door...

And there is always a **** just on the doorstep

The animal that makes the meow sound gets starred out

despite boris team saying any talk of boris meeting,talking to steve bannon as a left wing conspiracy,piffle
nigel farage confirms bannon meets, talks gives advice to boris Johnson, oh dear,

to be fair during the last few days seeing the absolute incompetence,lies, unicorns from the people boris sends out to defend him ,you can why some people might think boris is rather clever,in comparison to his cast of dimwits

In the land of the blind, a one eyed man is King

evening standard/George Osbourne reporting that sir mark sedwill has advised mrs may not to endorse either boris/hunt to the queen unless he,s certain they can form a majority over Brexit etc in commons

all boris backers on tv
pattel
Williamson
ids
Andrew Mitchell
fallon

should be getting shaw taylor to introduce them,has he got any backers whove not been sacked at some point

impossible that is not quite right...the Lord Mayor is a ceremonial position; that is not the same as being mayor of London which is a powerful position.

scathing attack article by ex boss max hastings who says boris couldn't pick the truth out in an identity parade,serial liar who,ll destroy tory party for ever if made PM, ,
MAYBE we,ll be sending tory members thank you cards in 6 months time

what does Max Hastings say about politicspunter....may be similar?

besides acting the buffoon on ive got news for you
warm up act on the end of pier show at tory conference

is there any footage out there which would go some way to get even close to showing why the tory members, mp,s,seemingly sensible tory pundits, tim Montgomery etc fawn at his feet

montgomerys openly gay ffs why would he support someone who labels him a bumboy,who thinks 2 men sleeping together is an abhoration , gets advice off steve bannon and the far right,

whats are the likes of tim Montgomery even thinking about it makes no sense

they think he is an electoral asset so will help them keep their seats, that is it pure and simple

1st time poster....agree. He will probably win....because its "Boris"...Look at the press...I watched the morning interviews. J Hunt was asked 16 times of character of Boris and Debates etc etc. The Media want to have a go. He will drift in the betting.

tim montgommery is a gay pundit hasn't got a seat
if bannon had his way he,d be getting marched up to the top of a multi story car park

i guess tm supports the tories, they fear corbyn so much they just want to keep him out and think the clown is their best bet.

corbyn cannot win

there,ll be no safe spaces for the likes of Montgomery in a bannon,farage,banks,erg far right inspired boris[ bum,boy ] government

Boris Johnson's decision to have Duncan Smith running his campaign has to be the latest of his actions that should be worthy of disqualifying him as PM

someone who no,s him better than most,no,s where all the skeletons [ kids ] are, resigned because he found mrs mays Brexit plan  to hard to stomach, wonder what little brother joe will do when mp,s have to do what they think is right,,

tobias ellwood who took on the terrorists outside the commons, thinks no deal will be catastrophic for the country but said when it comes to country or party, he,ll leave the poor old sods Clarke,grieve to do his dirty work,
maybe not such a hero after all

Michael Hesiltine gets 90k per year single farm payment from the cap , it's good to see such a pricipled old dog strangler voting to keep himself richer.

yes yes flush..but what about Bojo?