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never much liked the man but will be voting out.
what the feck is 'blue water diplomacy'? 'when the electoral pendulum shifts inside our country real changes can be made that make a difference to people’s lives and aspirations.' poppycock. imo we're fooked no matter who's in charge. multinational companies and the people behind them have more power than any elected politican. will the tories still sign up to ttip? yes so there goes more sovereignty. |
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The good doctor now acknowledging that he was conned in the seventies.
If he got conned how do you think the ordinary electorate. Nigel Farage proved right yet again. |
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I suspect Blue Water Diplomacy is a riff on the idea that we should get back to building trading links with the world as a sovereign nation with more natural ties to many of the countries which we could be doing far more trade with.
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Another one taking the Murdoch shilling. Some of you guys should apply, Out certainly are dredging the bottom for credible spokespeople. I nominate Mexico and Eternaloptimist.
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The Out side need some Left wing figures.
George Galloway a start,I'd like to see some working class British politician take centre stage,preferably from the North of England If there was a true working class politician he would speak n behalf of those affected. The ones who's jobs are being taken The ones who's hospital beds are being snaffled. The ones who's school places are being harpooned The ones who's houses are being requisitioned. Its the plutocrats and big business that wants ye to remain. |
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the trouble is for us more trade always means more imports of sh*t that we dont really need. shrink the banking sector and grow manufacturing based on innovation and technology (i know its a lot easier said than done).
for me the out side should put kate hoey at the centre of the debate. the mp who put the expenses scandal on the map and someone who doesnt just follow the party line. |
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The ones who's school places are being harpooned
The ones who's houses are being requisitioned.[/b] School places being harpooned ? What does that mean ? Any on here had their house requisitioned ? |
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Wildman why the support for Galloway ? Big supporter of Islam - anti western - slags off Britain all the time.
Might close the borders with Europe - would open them wide to Pakistan and Bangladesh etc. |
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I think Galloway is principled,I think he is a great orator,he is right on this occasion about sovereignty.
I'm not voting George Galloway into government,I'm just using his support to get Britain out of the Evil Empire. |
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Its the plutocrats and big business that wants ye to remain.
Absolutely. It's the endless supply of cheap ready trained labour they want. Plus the downwards pressure this puts on wages. The people and the country can go to hell as long as they can get their own way. |
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“In my view the advantage of David Cameron’s negotiation is that it has shown up why it is now too late to reform the EU from within in any significant way,” Owen said
That is of course assuming that dave did a better job negotiating than anybody who has any business experience. Anyway inclined to agree with his Lordship, what we supported and envisaged in the past is not what is happening now.# Doc Crippen is right Its the plutocrats and big business that wants ye to remain. Absolutely. It's the endless supply of cheap ready trained labour they want. Plus the downwards pressure this puts on wages. The people and the country can go to hell as long as they can get their own way |