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Eeternaloptimist
24 Oct 14 00:06
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Britain has been told that it must pay an additional €2.1bn (£1.7bn) into the European Union budget by the end of next month in an ultimatum certain to be used against David Cameron by the growing camp urging the UK to quit the EU.

Our politicians have got one leg and Junky et al have got the other and they have again turned us upside down whilst shaking like **** dogs.

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By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Oct 14 00:08
Shiitting.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Oct 14 00:18
are you really?

how interesting.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Oct 14 00:18
Laugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Oct 14 01:48
Despite all the words, will anything be done about immigration?

All Cameron will do is offer us a referendum to come out of the EU,
but I suspect we will vote to stay in.

Miliband has promised to bring in an immigration bill...but this is more for immigration
from outside the EU not within it

What we are paying for now, is allowing far too much immigration in the past,
going back some 60 years.

Current EU immigration is driven by:

1. The Credit Crunch, creating a world of depression

2. Allowing all former East European countries into the EU,
about the only thing we get from them is people.

Our problems are and have been created by our inept leaders.
Still we vote them in.

I have never in my lifetime seen anyone with a placard demanding more immigration,
I doubt I ever will.

Although I have seen some against racism

Our trouble is, we seem unable to distinguish between protecting our borders and racism,
it has cost us dear.
By:
pawras
When: 24 Oct 14 08:39
the fact that the liberal left brand any questions over immigration as racist in an effort to nullify any view but their own
By:
pawras
When: 24 Oct 14 08:42
I should have added , I find quite insidious

When is Westminster going to actually genuinely take notice of the majority’s concerns???????????
By:
pawras
When: 24 Oct 14 13:15
I've ignored you until now but I dunno where you get the idea that I'm an alias of someone else.

Anyway why not try arguing the points, e.g. like cryoftruth or unitedbiscuits who although their views are diametrically opposed to my own most of the time at least have a view, rather than just posting basically the same thing all the time.

Insulting/arguing against someone's views is one thing but I'm not interested in any attempts at personal insults as that is rather a pointless exercise given the anonymity of this site.

So basically either argue for or against handing more money over to the EU via whatever views you have or f off
By:
ExtremeX
When: 24 Oct 14 14:15
monologue....again.....same as yesterday
.....just like it will be tomorrow
- some things in life are not optionalWink
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 24 Oct 14 14:25
The lack of compassion amongst all you nazis is appalling. 

Why not just think of the poor and how we are helping them in europe.

We are all here sat on our bloated pay packets or, in my case, profits and you all moan
about giving to the EU charity - shame on you.
By:
ExtremeX
When: 24 Oct 14 14:29
yup, i knew it, no other plans againLaughLaughLaugh

well, keep banging away at the keyboard, the day is still young
and a long ways off from 4:30am - you'll have so much fun, i envy youSillySillySillySillyLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
paddletoe
When: 24 Oct 14 15:04
Surely this is just applying rules already agreed to by everyone in the card game where the winner tips the dealer.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Oct 14 15:06
But in this game only the dealer has any money left at the end of the game. We are borrowing unheard of sums to create an illusion of growth and are paying these gangsters extra for the privilege?

Fucck that.
By:
pawras
When: 24 Oct 14 15:07
Nazis? Really?? Sigh rolling eyes!

Here we go again with that lefty crap referring to “the poor” like they’re some other species.

Well hand your money over then if you’re so bothered about Europeans just don’t try and force the rest of us to do so.
By:
paddletoe
When: 24 Oct 14 15:11
Surely it would be worse if you did not have to ante up a few quid after the card game because you lost.

The only thing I can see wrong is that its a politically bad time for Cameron on the face of it but one which he should be easily able to turn around to his advantage.
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Oct 14 15:12
I think he might have been being facetious pawras

Well I hope so

Unfortunately our government are never facetious...although at times it is hard to think they are notSad
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Oct 14 15:15
Quelle surprise. France and Germany are set for a bumper rebate.
By:
paddletoe
When: 24 Oct 14 15:17
You might be right EO when you said Britain are being penalised by creating an illusion of growth but would you not agree that Cameron is therefore in a tricky position because he cant very well admit that.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Oct 14 15:29
Well he could in one sense because this penalty is being imposed based on some kind of assessment arising from 1995 onwards and Labour were far more guilty on that score seeing as they borrowed money from 2002 to the very to of the boom. But that's not really the issue. These fucckers know that the people in this country feel we pay enough to these shysters. Sticking extra billions on top at this time isn't going to endear them to us.

Cameron should offer to pay when the auditors sign off on Europe's books.
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 24 Oct 14 15:31
Gosh pawras  you are so serious - can't you see I am doing lefty come whatever newspeak.   I am sorry that my humour doesn't entertain you - don't take it too seriously - I was just getting in ahead of the liberal guardianista PC police!!!
By:
pawras
When: 24 Oct 14 15:32
I wonder whether :-
It's a set up for Cameron to look strong before the by-election by refusing to pay, then trying to quietly cough it up afterwards.
The EU commissioners are manoeuvring us into a referendum, which they probably think they’ll be able to force a YES and keep us in chains so it ends up third time lucky for Germany and European domination.
The EU commissioners are so out of touch as to the true depth of feeling against them over here that they’re oblivious to how their demands will be met.
The EU commissioners have a good idea how much the public is against them but don’t care because as far they’re concerned we can just do as we’re told and the political fallout here is just background noise.
By:
pawras
When: 24 Oct 14 15:34
Apols I'm so used to the lefty newspeak from a few of them recently I didn't immediately recognise the sarcasm
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Oct 14 15:36
Cameron's choice of words was interesting. Something along the lines of he isn't going to pay it on the 1st December.

Plenty of wiggle room there. Laugh
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 24 Oct 14 15:38
I would like to draw your attention to a fact.  A very large chunk of the elecotrate have been born into a post Common market entry.  They know nothing else. Therefore membership of the EU is a given. Do you follow my drift. So to talk about leaving something that is almost as permanent  as say the existence of Westminster, driving on the left, the royal family etc etc is not a topic that would interest them. It exists, we are in it, so why rock the boat- they are brought up to it in education and they receive large chunks of pro eu propaganda so why go to the bother of changing something which will cause too much hassle??

Amongst others like myself, we remember other times when not in the EU.
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 24 Oct 14 15:39
I do apologise pawras  I know I am a sarcastic old Kant.
By:
ExtremeX
When: 24 Oct 14 15:41
m....o....n....o....l....o.....g....u....e

nothing more than a deranged mug confined
to a chair sending posts back-and-forth
to himself all day, day after day, trapped
in his own fantasy and delusion

i must admit though, i envy the simple lifestyle
no,no,no, stop it, i am not kidding,
don't let my laughing throw you off,
i mean it, i do envy the simple lifestyleSillySillySillyLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
pawras
When: 24 Oct 14 15:44
who is this immebecile cut and pasting the same stuff across threads?
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Oct 14 15:47
pawras   
24 Oct 14 15:44 
who is this immebecile cut and pasting the same stuff across threads?


That's the banned Menelaus, now known as ExtremeX or gus.

You can read all about him on 'THE FACE OF A LUNATIC' thread.
By:
ExtremeX
When: 24 Oct 14 15:48
bark, bark some more, bark louder, oirish,
with all the bluster, huffing and puffing,
vulgarity and 10-year old child cleverness you can muster,
-who knows may be you'll be able to put the toothpaste
back in the tube againLaughLaughLaugh

now moving though, well that's another matterSad
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Oct 14 15:51
pawras

My belief, disputed by others, is that he is an unhinged stalker who formerly went by the name of Menelaus who got banned because he made a complete fool of himself when he chased me from forum to forum taking a beating every time. I've blocked him because he keeps posting pretty much the same post day after day. His theory is that every single person on this forum apart from him is in fact me. That's right. Everybody. Including you. Every last one of the others here know for a fact that he is a deranged nutter. Now you do as well.
By:
broadsword
When: 24 Oct 14 16:30
think you could be right paw....it all looks very fishy
1. unexpected large debt
2.cameron rides into town saying he wont pay it
3.cameron looks like superhero
4. ukip left floundering
By:
Try My Best
When: 24 Oct 14 16:42
Barroso you are an utter embarrassment. What a load of absolute drivel you are spouting. We are not far away from leaving thank God.
By:
paddletoe
When: 24 Oct 14 17:17
EO is right when he made the point the only thing Cameron has said is that he wont pony up the money by the 1st of December. The readjustment is after all based on the figures supplied by each government. Britain got a rebate in 2008 under the same system. However, where Cameron could argue the figures is around the fact a percentage of the bill is based on the estimated black market economy in each country.
By:
Try My Best
When: 24 Oct 14 18:58
yeah prostitution and drugs. I'm sure we can get an accurate figure where this is concerned. What an absolute shambles this EU is. Predict a total ukip landslide in the next by election.
By:
conspiracywackjob
When: 24 Oct 14 19:11
will 'CAMERON STANDS UP TO EU' and 'WE WILL NOT PAY' benefit him and tweedlecon in the forthcoming by-election which ukip may win

are the EU and tweedlecon complicit in staging this

afterall tweedlecon and the EU  share a common goal

to keep Britain in the EU AT ANY PRICE
By:
broadsword
When: 24 Oct 14 19:57
cameron sounded far too confident and smug that the uk wouldnt pay........looks like a set up to me
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Oct 14 20:02
an interesting idea...conspiracy

Although can Cameron refuse?, will the EU not just take it back in other ways
or threaten to expel us?

I do not like our Politicians making statements they are not prepared to back up

I suspect there will be some kind of quiet compromise myself
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Oct 14 20:03
could be broadsword
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 24 Oct 14 20:08
He has not said he will not pay Gery, he implied that he will pay it when HE is good and ready. Oh what a defiant shirt lifter he is. He will pull his own pants down, NOBODY, he repeats NOBODY will pull his pants down apart from himself.
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Oct 14 20:10
Oh I seeSad....sounds about right Angel
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