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04 May 12
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Tories humbled and humiliated and losing around 700 seats
Liberals losing a further 150 seats from a catastrophic 2011 showing
Britain's biggest Authority (Birmingham) turns RED!
Cameron's FLAGSHIP Mayoral idea SUNK in City after City!
Labour at/around 1997 Polling levels at 40%; the Tories falling to around 30%; the Liberals polling lower than usual in local elections where historically they do far netter at 15%.....UKIP and RESPECT coming up
WARSI COMMITING POLITICAL SUICIDE by likening UKIP to the BNP (something she and the Tories will LONG LIVE TO REGRET!)...
The only minor glimmer for the Tories is Boris - a man who is so alienated from Cameron that he has not been seen with a Tory Rossette nor included the word "Conservative" in the majority of his campaigning....
The London Assembly looks likely to SWING TO LABOUR.....the maverick "who do you hate the least poll between Boris and Ken will be irrelevant to Cameron who has been told in no uncertain terms he is not wanted...
TORIES TURNING OB CAMERON AND THE LIBDEMS
LIBDEMS TURNING ON THE TORIES AND CAMERON
LABOUR making genuinely GOOD progress but with an air of humility and common sense from their brilliant Leader...
AND.....in just over 60 hours....
VICTORY FOR HOLLANDE....
AUSTERITY DOESN'T WORK
CORRUPT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WORD
THE TORIES AREN'T TRUSTED....
Happy happy days!
Liberals losing a further 150 seats from a catastrophic 2011 showing
Britain's biggest Authority (Birmingham) turns RED!
Cameron's FLAGSHIP Mayoral idea SUNK in City after City!
Labour at/around 1997 Polling levels at 40%; the Tories falling to around 30%; the Liberals polling lower than usual in local elections where historically they do far netter at 15%.....UKIP and RESPECT coming up
WARSI COMMITING POLITICAL SUICIDE by likening UKIP to the BNP (something she and the Tories will LONG LIVE TO REGRET!)...
The only minor glimmer for the Tories is Boris - a man who is so alienated from Cameron that he has not been seen with a Tory Rossette nor included the word "Conservative" in the majority of his campaigning....
The London Assembly looks likely to SWING TO LABOUR.....the maverick "who do you hate the least poll between Boris and Ken will be irrelevant to Cameron who has been told in no uncertain terms he is not wanted...
TORIES TURNING OB CAMERON AND THE LIBDEMS
LIBDEMS TURNING ON THE TORIES AND CAMERON
LABOUR making genuinely GOOD progress but with an air of humility and common sense from their brilliant Leader...
AND.....in just over 60 hours....
VICTORY FOR HOLLANDE....
AUSTERITY DOESN'T WORK
CORRUPT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WORD
THE TORIES AREN'T TRUSTED....
Happy happy days!
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Iain Duncan Smith and William Hague did even better at the local elections, one didn't even make the general and the other won one seat. If Boris wins later in the day, this won't even be the biggest political story of the day and will be forgotten completely by tomorrow. Meaningless.
The Budget was shambolic WW. Got what they deserved. In touch with the Square Mile but out of touch with the rest of the UK.
They couldn't win a majority when Brown was PM and on the back of Iraq;
all of the promises
quangos
immigration
Human Rights Act
etc. down the drain.
Can't get the date right to kick out Abu,
Pasty Tax, conservatory tax, charity tax; an idea on Monday a U turn by Thursday.
They couldn't win a majority when Brown was PM and on the back of Iraq;
all of the promises
quangos
immigration
Human Rights Act
etc. down the drain.
Can't get the date right to kick out Abu,
Pasty Tax, conservatory tax, charity tax; an idea on Monday a U turn by Thursday.
"all of the promises
quangos
immigration
Human Rights Act
etc. down the drain."
I quite agree. Cameron has been useless. But I don't think Labour winning a bunch of meaningless council seats on a 25% turnout is much to shout about frankly. The only people out voting are the ones hacked off so what do you expect?
quangos
immigration
Human Rights Act
etc. down the drain."
I quite agree. Cameron has been useless. But I don't think Labour winning a bunch of meaningless council seats on a 25% turnout is much to shout about frankly. The only people out voting are the ones hacked off so what do you expect?
32% turnout...Java your right and wrong. Yes these are protest votes and in that terms quite meaningless. But they do give a guide. Miliband did well but has a long way to go.
Clegg had a bad night.
If Boris wins but the Tories are smashed in London then it has been a disaster for Cameron. A disaster to such an extent that he may not survive
Clegg had a bad night.
If Boris wins but the Tories are smashed in London then it has been a disaster for Cameron. A disaster to such an extent that he may not survive
java
One would have expected a little humility on what has been a very poor night for the tories and lib dems but NO...tribal as always!
A turnout around 33-35% is NORMAL for a mid term Council Election....that still equates to MILLIONS OF REAL VOTES...
The Opinion Polls putting Labour around 8-10% points AHEAD have been THOROUGHLY VINDICATED....
References to Hague and IDS are ACTUALLY WRONG.... there is NO Iraq/Afghanistan factor at play here and neither actually enjoyed the kinds of figures seen here and lets NOT forget....Cameron does NOT have a 100 plus Commons majority to fall back on...
As rightly pointed out CAMERON with an open goal of the worst global economic crisis in a century, the most unpopular PM in a century and a broken Labour Party could NOT form a majority Government....HE NEVER WILL!
Most disturbing for the Tories is that "brand Cameron" is now toxic.....linked with sleaze,corruption,arrogance and the basic fact that "they cant be in this together as they are toffs".....
The London Mayoral election can be spun and spun and spun and spun by the Tories as much as they like....IF boris wins it is a bigger WORRY for Cameron than for Miliband since Boris is neither a proud Tory ( he refused to use the word Conservative Candidate on much of his election material) nor a Cameroon.....he is indeed a very very real threat to Cameron who will be squeezed from the right by Boris and from the left by Miliband....
One final point....
WARSI likening UKIP - a natural home for MANY disaffected traditional Tory voters as "like the BNP" will turn out to be the BIGGEST POLITICAL GAFFE of this Parliament as take it from me...many Tories I know were "toying with UKIP" now with that bullshit from an unelected racist Tory nobody who is promoted way way way above her ability on the grounds that she is a "token muslim" will see Tories deserting to UKIP in their droves taking Councillors and possibly even a few MP's with them!
so java - stop telling lies and have a little humlity like most others would be, and have been, under such circumstances...
One would have expected a little humility on what has been a very poor night for the tories and lib dems but NO...tribal as always!
A turnout around 33-35% is NORMAL for a mid term Council Election....that still equates to MILLIONS OF REAL VOTES...
The Opinion Polls putting Labour around 8-10% points AHEAD have been THOROUGHLY VINDICATED....
References to Hague and IDS are ACTUALLY WRONG.... there is NO Iraq/Afghanistan factor at play here and neither actually enjoyed the kinds of figures seen here and lets NOT forget....Cameron does NOT have a 100 plus Commons majority to fall back on...
As rightly pointed out CAMERON with an open goal of the worst global economic crisis in a century, the most unpopular PM in a century and a broken Labour Party could NOT form a majority Government....HE NEVER WILL!
Most disturbing for the Tories is that "brand Cameron" is now toxic.....linked with sleaze,corruption,arrogance and the basic fact that "they cant be in this together as they are toffs".....
The London Mayoral election can be spun and spun and spun and spun by the Tories as much as they like....IF boris wins it is a bigger WORRY for Cameron than for Miliband since Boris is neither a proud Tory ( he refused to use the word Conservative Candidate on much of his election material) nor a Cameroon.....he is indeed a very very real threat to Cameron who will be squeezed from the right by Boris and from the left by Miliband....
One final point....
WARSI likening UKIP - a natural home for MANY disaffected traditional Tory voters as "like the BNP" will turn out to be the BIGGEST POLITICAL GAFFE of this Parliament as take it from me...many Tories I know were "toying with UKIP" now with that bullshit from an unelected racist Tory nobody who is promoted way way way above her ability on the grounds that she is a "token muslim" will see Tories deserting to UKIP in their droves taking Councillors and possibly even a few MP's with them!
so java - stop telling lies and have a little humlity like most others would be, and have been, under such circumstances...
"but NO...tribal as always!"
How can I be tribal you pillock when I posted "I quite agree. Cameron has been useless"
How can I be tribal you pillock when I posted "I quite agree. Cameron has been useless"
java
of course its tribal to say cameron is useless...
is'nt that what every tory thinks
of course its tribal to say cameron is useless...
is'nt that what every tory thinks
Did I miss Cameron's resignation speech?
Has a wally prediction come true for the first time ever?
Has a wally prediction come true for the first time ever?
right you obnoxious tory ass licking lying TROLL...
show some humility and some facts for once in your sad and tawdry life...
show me or anyone where I have ever said "David Cameron has resigned"
stop peddling your lies and your bullying you sad excuse for a piece of tory lick spittle...
YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND UTTER DISGRACE TO HUMAN KIND AND YOUR BULLYING AND CONTINUED PERSONAL ABUSE SHOWS YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE...
A TROLL!
show some humility and some facts for once in your sad and tawdry life...
show me or anyone where I have ever said "David Cameron has resigned"
stop peddling your lies and your bullying you sad excuse for a piece of tory lick spittle...
YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND UTTER DISGRACE TO HUMAN KIND AND YOUR BULLYING AND CONTINUED PERSONAL ABUSE SHOWS YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE...
A TROLL!
Please. Stop. You are killing me. I can't breathe. Tears of mirth are running down my face again. Nobody does meltdowns like you. You are the King. No mas.
A great night for Labour. At this level of support they'll be winning by-elections in places like Bradford. Oh, hang on a minute....
Will someone nip round to Morrison's or an economy airport louunge and find " man of the people" Dave, and ask him what he makes of the peoples opinion on his overprivileged out of touch toff Government
He's as genuine as a nine quid note,a total fluff PR apparition
I recall a previous round of local elections where NL got trounced; "means nothing", "insignificant" "surprised people take it seriously" the blairites told me.
It was a warning. Arrogant people will play it down and ignore it.
We will be given the same patronising as usual that "they accept they are not getting the message across".
No the message is coming across we can see you what you are.
It was a warning. Arrogant people will play it down and ignore it.
We will be given the same patronising as usual that "they accept they are not getting the message across".
No the message is coming across we can see you what you are.
"they accept they are not getting the message across".
This horror is number two just behind "lessons have been learned" after a monumental **** up when any other industry would sack the perpetrator in disgrace.
This horror is number two just behind "lessons have been learned" after a monumental **** up when any other industry would sack the perpetrator in disgrace.
Well BEETROOT BOY had best not go home this weekend then??...
His local Witney Constituency is a few Tory Councillors lighter than they were...
"not in my back yard......"
His local Witney Constituency is a few Tory Councillors lighter than they were...
"not in my back yard......
"
"No the message is coming across we can see you what you are."
I agree with this sentiment Mr E, but quite why voters think the solution is Milliband is beyond me. Irrespective of what you think of him, he still has all the old cronies in his shadow cabinet. They are taking the voters for fools. And it seems the voters indeed are fools.
I agree with this sentiment Mr E, but quite why voters think the solution is Milliband is beyond me. Irrespective of what you think of him, he still has all the old cronies in his shadow cabinet. They are taking the voters for fools. And it seems the voters indeed are fools.
It is insulting java.
Not once do these politicians consider that we understand the message, and it is shyte.
They are so full of arrogance they assume we didn't understand; if we did we would realise how clever they are, apparently.
Expense fiddling, warmongering hypocrites 90% of them.
Not once do these politicians consider that we understand the message, and it is shyte.
They are so full of arrogance they assume we didn't understand; if we did we would realise how clever they are, apparently.
Expense fiddling, warmongering hypocrites 90% of them.
He has clearly distanced himself from NEW LABOUR and Murdoch Press and that is a fine start!
Willy - look at his shadow cabinet. You really think this is a clean sweep?
At least when the Tories were anihilated most of the powerful cabinet members were booted out by the electorate so couldn't stick around in opposition smelling like a rancid old piece of trout.
he couldn't sack all of them...
He will ease the likes of Harmon out when he can....
He will ease the likes of Harmon out when he can....
Blair, Mandelson, Hoon, Hewitt, Byers, Milburn gone.
Dave Mil, and Gordie all but gone.Reid gone.
It is a start java; not excited by the replacements I admit; but it is a start
Dave Mil, and Gordie all but gone.Reid gone.
It is a start java; not excited by the replacements I admit; but it is a start
ClayDavis
32% turnout...
Clays hit the nail on the head. that turnout is ridiculously low to be drawing comparisons about much. as i posted on another thread, the figures based on that turnout for the whole population are
68% f*ck all politicians, can't be @rsed party
12% labour party
10% tory party
5% lib dem party
5% others
this may be a success in terms of one party beating another party. but its a total failure of UK democracy. no party that gets elected will have a majority mandate to do anything based on this.
pity the main parties are so focused on their pathetic pantomime point-scoring against each other, and it seems the majority of people are sick and tired of it.
any party that can re-engage the vast majority has an open goal. but that would require politicians that cared (or appeared to care) about anything other than their own narrow vested interests.
32% turnout...
Clays hit the nail on the head. that turnout is ridiculously low to be drawing comparisons about much. as i posted on another thread, the figures based on that turnout for the whole population are
68% f*ck all politicians, can't be @rsed party
12% labour party
10% tory party
5% lib dem party
5% others
this may be a success in terms of one party beating another party. but its a total failure of UK democracy. no party that gets elected will have a majority mandate to do anything based on this.
pity the main parties are so focused on their pathetic pantomime point-scoring against each other, and it seems the majority of people are sick and tired of it.
any party that can re-engage the vast majority has an open goal. but that would require politicians that cared (or appeared to care) about anything other than their own narrow vested interests.
A STUPID PREDICTION BY WILLY
worcesterwilly
16 Apr 12 11:34 Joined: 25 Jan 07 | Topic/replies: 6,533 | Blogger: worcesterwilly's blog
The big problem for Boris is the Council elections....
EXPECT a huge swing Lib Dems (defending seats at high water marke 4 years ago) to Labour and a BIGGER swing Conservative to Labour.....(classic mid term protest)....
Its a leap of faith for Boris to expect people to vote Labour in Council/LONDON elections BUT then to vote Boris....in Mayoral election....
KEN WILL WIN BY AROUND 5% on second preference...
Irrespective o what the TORY RAG EVENING STANDARD says!
worcesterwilly
16 Apr 12 11:34 Joined: 25 Jan 07 | Topic/replies: 6,533 | Blogger: worcesterwilly's blog
The big problem for Boris is the Council elections....
EXPECT a huge swing Lib Dems (defending seats at high water marke 4 years ago) to Labour and a BIGGER swing Conservative to Labour.....(classic mid term protest)....
Its a leap of faith for Boris to expect people to vote Labour in Council/LONDON elections BUT then to vote Boris....in Mayoral election....
KEN WILL WIN BY AROUND 5% on second preference...
Irrespective o what the TORY RAG EVENING STANDARD says!
a few hours ago BORIS and his team proclaimed victory
2 hours ago they packed their belongings worried abour defeat
Boris may win by a whisker....but whatever happens
HE WILL SEEK REVENGE ON CAMERON!
Any other Labour Candidate and Boris would be iunemployed and BORIS will NOT FORGIVE CAMERON!
2 hours ago they packed their belongings worried abour defeat
Boris may win by a whisker....but whatever happens
HE WILL SEEK REVENGE ON CAMERON!
Any other Labour Candidate and Boris would be iunemployed and BORIS will NOT FORGIVE CAMERON!
The TRUTH HURTS MW2008...
THE TRUTH HURTS
TORIES IN UTTER DISARRAY...
NEXT WEEK WITH BEKS AND ANDY AT LEVESON WILL BE NIGHTMARE ON DOWNING STREET
THE TRUTH HURTS
TORIES IN UTTER DISARRAY...
NEXT WEEK WITH BEKS AND ANDY AT LEVESON WILL BE NIGHTMARE ON DOWNING STREET
ww - your predictions were wrong, Boris won.
Right then, next up, Cameron to go before Sarkozy - feeling confident?
Right then, next up, Cameron to go before Sarkozy - feeling confident?
SAME OLD TORIES...
VERY VERY VERY POOR LOSERS!
"LOSERS"
LABOUR WON 800 PLUS SEATS
TORIES LOST 450 PLUS SEATS
LIB DEMS LOST 350 PLUS SEATS
LABOUR WON LONDON ASSEMBLY
HOLLANDE WILL WIN TOMORROW...
OK..CAMERON WILL HANG ON....BUT FOR HOW LONG??...
CANT WAIT FOR THE BEKS AND ANDY SHOW NEXT WEEK
VERY VERY VERY POOR LOSERS!
"LOSERS"
LABOUR WON 800 PLUS SEATS
TORIES LOST 450 PLUS SEATS
LIB DEMS LOST 350 PLUS SEATS
LABOUR WON LONDON ASSEMBLY
HOLLANDE WILL WIN TOMORROW...
OK..CAMERON WILL HANG ON....BUT FOR HOW LONG??...
CANT WAIT FOR THE BEKS AND ANDY SHOW NEXT WEEK
Java 04 May 12 15:32
"they accept they are not getting the message across".
CryCryCryCry
This horror is number two just behind "lessons have been learned" after a monumental **** up when any other industry would sack the perpetrator in disgrace
Sorry java, but as predicted our Gideon took to the pages of today's MoS doing just that.
The defecting and dissatisfied Tories he puts down to not getting the message across with his budget. The spin was wrong apparently .
Too smug and arrogant to assume that the voters understood it fully and didn't like it.
"they accept they are not getting the message across".
CryCryCryCry
This horror is number two just behind "lessons have been learned" after a monumental **** up when any other industry would sack the perpetrator in disgrace
Sorry java, but as predicted our Gideon took to the pages of today's MoS doing just that.
The defecting and dissatisfied Tories he puts down to not getting the message across with his budget. The spin was wrong apparently .
Too smug and arrogant to assume that the voters understood it fully and didn't like it.
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