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25 Jan 13 00:00
Date Joined: 23 May 12
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Right after a string of bad beats i thought id test them

I get up to about 5k playing low hand in tournament ( just free roll )

I get moved table and all sitting out bar 2

This guys on 15k plus swallowing the lot up , so i think he is something fishy

So i get 2 7 and chuck in a few chips all fold bar the big chip stack , J J 3 then i raise 300 he calls

Another jack out on turn then i raise 1k to he calls

River i go K i raise and he calls , cards come out he has 10 high lol

So i have a few k left i get AK all in he calls AQ and the flop comes nothing turn nothing and a long pause and we all know what loaded up.

This has happened all day in the small stake tourneys and free rolls
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Report Ovalman. January 25, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
So who are the freerolls fixed for? Maybe the winners are all Betfair Bots that keep the money in these freerolls, that sounds plausible but then again the $2,500 freeroll had 200 winner, many of whom were different from last night's winners. I won $5 from the first night, maybe I'm a bot?

You said Stars is fixed as well, surely all sites can't be cheating?

Is it a conspiracy against you?
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:16 AM GMT
house bots exist william hill admitted it
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:17 AM GMT
not saying fixed in anyones favour in particular but cards are not random thats for sure

big chip stack wins mostly on all ins to finish game faster and they give out tasty hands when games going slow
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:18 AM GMT in games offered via the Website which benefit from more players or greater liquidity we may deploy electronic players (known as robots, and whose usernames will be "bot") who are pre-programmed to play and join in with the game in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming although we will not use bots without making such usage clear to You
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:19 AM GMT
so you think only billys do it
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:22 AM GMT
and for the record i havnt lost a dime on here

but i wont be switching money over when i can read the cards once all in has been called

the queen was a cert it actually froze for a few seconds before the river
Report KingOfNewYork January 25, 2013 12:23 AM GMT
This is why I love ipoker ! There are 1000s of these type of guys called "chaser" that play maybe 4 or 5 games a week and get a bad beat then think its ****, so funny reminds me of all the rants in 2004!
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
4-5 times a week lol yeah mate thats me
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:27 AM GMT
ive played more poker than you probably and at casino and pubs etc and online poker is bad beat central
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:29 AM GMT
its flushes and straights every hand on here
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
fair enough online poker is not fixed at all but its just pot luck
Report KingOfNewYork January 25, 2013 12:34 AM GMT
Go on twoplustwo and post your findings, they will be most sympathetic lol
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:41 AM GMT
i hope i get proved wrong on this site tbh. im going to keep playing the free rolls and maybe some small stake tourneys for a few weeks and see how it goes anyway
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:42 AM GMT
just the bad beats seem far too common

what stakes you play if you dont mind me asking , maybe its just free and low to make it more interesting
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 12:44 AM GMT
seems more like random hand generator than random number generator
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 3:17 AM GMT
hahahahaha fck me the worst yet

Me AA other raises all in i have 3k left in tourney so i go all in to his 8ish he has Q10

out comes 7 9 8 5 6

my first all in and placed about 40th in free roll
Report TheChaser January 25, 2013 5:30 AM GMT
won a few quid but still looks dodgy as soon as i hit the front on last table i couldnt lose a hand
Report dave1357 January 28, 2013 11:29 AM GMT

Jan 24, 2013 -- 6:16PM, TheChaser wrote:

house bots exist william hill admitted it

no they didn't you thick loser

Report Helmuthian Folds January 28, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
Interesting theories...

I have just been blogging at Betfair London Live....

In the main tourney one of our players got 1 outered QQQ v 444 with a 4 on the river...

Then one of the staff after his shift had finished played on a cash table and got one outered AAA v 444 with a 4 on the river.

Conclusive evidence that live poker is fixed!! Wink
Report Mr Snap February 8, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
At some point in time the big stack(s) must win every hand otherwise the tournament would never end
Report casemoney February 24, 2013 11:16 PM GMT
walofs and this is from one of the former **** brigade
Report casemoney February 24, 2013 11:17 PM GMT
ri gg ed Cool
Report Pablito_Aimar February 25, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
Well im not playing here anymore. Everytime i play a tournament im outplayed by some fish.

Today, after a lot of weeks without playing in betfair i had registered on the 1000K GTD.

Against the same psychic player i lost with QQ vs JT...runner runner straight and with AA vs KK...runner runner flush.
Report fedddddddd uppppppppp February 26, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
this 2k mtt annoyed me..

19 left of 370 runners.. i get AQ in ep.. shove ... hero makes call for large wack of his stack with J K... not sure if he was getting odds to call or not but its still a disgusting feeling :(

he hits runner runner flush of course.

jesus christ

***** History for hand T5-309489225-85 (TOURNAMENT: "$2,000 NL Holdem Turbo Rebuy", R-6798-61, buy-in: $2.25) *****
Start hand: Mon Feb 25 23:33:55 GMT 2013
Table: Table #33 [309489225] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 8000/16000, ante: 1600, Chips)
User: jeffmoon1
Button: seat 10
Players in round: 10 (10)
Seat 1: kamikazi92 (45765)
Seat 2: Isakss0n_ (70334)
Seat 3: argneds (57144)
Seat 4: jeffmoon1 (45288)
Seat 5: clon1raniran (94972)
Seat 6: queensmost (115650)
Seat 7: kladas13 (83713)
Seat 8: tsilige (109535)
Seat 9: dizzyziggy (80752)
Seat 10: Citus1 (37590)
kamikazi92 posts ante 1600
Isakss0n_ posts ante 1600
argneds posts ante 1600
jeffmoon1 posts ante 1600
clon1raniran posts ante 1600
queensmost posts ante 1600
kladas13 posts ante 1600
tsilige posts ante 1600
dizzyziggy posts ante 1600
Citus1 posts ante 1600
kamikazi92 posts small blind (8000)
Isakss0n_ posts big blind (16000)
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to jeffmoon1: [As, Qh]
argneds folds
jeffmoon1 raises 43688 to 43688 [all in]
clon1raniran folds
queensmost folds
kladas13 folds
tsilige folds
dizzyziggy folds
Citus1 folds
kamikazi92 folds
Isakss0n_ calls 27688
--- Dealing flop [8h, 6s, 5d]
--- Dealing turn [4s]
--- Dealing river [9s]
Main pot: 111376 won by Isakss0n_ (111376)
Rake taken: $0
Seat 1: kamikazi92 (36165), net: -9600
Seat 2: Isakss0n_ (136422), net: +66088, [Js, Ks] (FLUSH KING)
Seat 3: argneds (55544), net: -1600
Seat 4: jeffmoon1 (0), net: -45288, [As, Qh] (HIGH_CARD ACE)
Seat 5: clon1raniran (93372), net: -1600
Seat 6: queensmost (114050), net: -1600
Seat 7: kladas13 (82113), net: -1600
Seat 8: tsilige (107935), net: -1600
Seat 9: dizzyziggy (79152), net: -1600
Seat 10: Citus1 (35990), net: -1600
***** End of hand T5-309489225-85 *****

cashed but fk it


Report chipfire227 February 26, 2013 3:10 PM GMT
Theres what...around 75k in the pot, its 27k for him to call, he's got KJ, and you dont know if he's getting the right odds to call ?

Jesus Christ indeed. LaughLaugh
Report fedddddddd uppppppppp February 26, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
ok.. he may be getting the right odds to call..

but i would of folded K J as it is S H I T  Excited

I DONT mind the call at all... just the result

JOKE to hit runner runner turn and river


Report chipfire227 February 26, 2013 4:01 PM GMT
May be ?

He's getting 11/4 for his money and hes got KJ suited vs AQ. Standard shove, standard call.
Report fedddddddd uppppppppp February 26, 2013 6:04 PM GMT
I am above a standard player which is why I would of folded...


Report chipfire227 February 27, 2013 10:08 AM GMT
I wish I could get 11/4 for every 11/8 shot. I'd be a rich man. Wink
Report fedddddddd uppppppppp February 27, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
thats why my opr rating is 90.52 % and yours is ZERO!


Report chipfire227 February 27, 2013 5:48 PM GMT
Sorry when you first posted I assumed it was piss-take as the call was EV+ and it wasnt a bad beat, I'm now actually wondering if in a Sl33pwalker stylee, you are actually stupid enough to think KJ suited is a fold in that position.

Nobody could be that thick though surely ?
Report fedddddddd uppppppppp February 27, 2013 8:21 PM GMT
I already stated the call was normal play, and yes it was a bad bea t .. hitting runner runner turn and river..

but yes i fold there, an allin from ep with my reputation is a instant fold everytime. I hate fkin kj anyway and would like to hold on to my 27000 chips and not toss them down the pan.

you just continue to play your amateur poker

u aint got a clue


Report chipfire227 February 27, 2013 9:38 PM GMT
Sorry, my bad, I should have realised you were an idiot from the smileys. You are quite welcome to your OPR rating and the 500 quid profit you have made over the last year on BF. It just shows how appallingly bad the low stakes MTT players are on BF that someone like you can earn 50 pence an hour from the game.

I appreciate the $25,000 profit I've made on BF counts for nothing, and I would swap it in an instant just to get an OPR rating. Laugh

To be honest son every time you make another post on this thread you look more of a clown. Within 24 hours its gone from a disgusting and **** call where you have absolutely no idea what odds he was getting or what odds he actually was when the money went in, to a standard call. You were slightly ahead when the money went in, and lost, boo hoo, what do you want, a biscuit ? Stick to your 2 dollar ****fests and crying every time you lose with ace high- you clearly have a talent for it, and not much else. Oh and help yourself to a custard cream.

Presumably this was the response you were looking for initially  ?
Report cheezer March 1, 2013 6:37 PM GMT
Please just ignore this moron, what chipfire doesn't know about life would fill an encyclopedia! He talks about poker like it's some sort of science and even if he is telling the truth about the 25k (very much doubt it) I guess it probably still amounts to around 50p an hour for the amount if time he spends gambling. Him and baldy doobs are the saddest people you are ever likely to speak too.

This is the first time I have looked at the betfair forum for a while as quite frankly the poker they serve up since they changed from there own network a few years ago is appalling.

For the record I have won around £7000 in 4 years of playing poker and enjoyed it! (£1.50 an hour not sure?) and earnt around 200k running my bathroom business (yes working chipfire, probably a hard concept for you to understand)  in the same time so please no more bullsh1t about life or poker.

Report cheezer March 1, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
And using phrases like "my bad" really doesn't do yourself any favours.
Report Mr Snap March 1, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
He talks about poker like it's some sort of science

Poker is exactly that, a science (not the way I play granted)
Report chipfire227 March 1, 2013 10:26 PM GMT
Discovering cheezer fits toilets for a living has left me as devastatated  as I would be if I discovered Scarlett Johansson had a c0ck. My life feels pointless now.
Report singlecask March 2, 2013 2:03 PM GMT
Come on chip you know your life has always been pointless,so what is this bull about it only feeling pointless now !! Confused
Report Ovalman. March 2, 2013 5:46 PM GMT
OPR is for games of 27+ players.

Sharkscope is for STTs and SnGs only ie. under Sit & Go tab on Stars.

Chip is a decent player imo.
Report chipfire227 March 2, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
If you select "All Games" on Sharkscope it brings up MTT results. I dont play many MTT's, but as I won both WSOP and WSOPE packages from Freerolls I rather suspect I'm a bit ahead playing them. Wink

Plod I agree my life has been a masterclass in underachievement since I made the Peel Festive 50 and NME top 50 singles of the year in 1991. It's been one long downward trend since then. Finding out the mighty cheezer spends his life grouting tiles though...that's just put me on complete life tilt. I don't see any point in even kidding myself that things can get better after that bombshell. Sad
Report akaBirdman March 3, 2013 9:57 AM GMT
where does the feeeeeeddddd uppppp dude get that KJ is a fold for 27k into a 85k pot?? Quote: " I am an above average player thats why its a fold" answer to that "Obv not"
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