Turn is 8s, so which two of the remaining three eights are you saying are no good to him ? River is the 7d, which two of the remaining three sevens are no good ?
hit the only 2 outs on the turn/river.Turn is 8s, so which two of the remaining three eights are you saying are no good to him ?River is the 7d, which two of the remaining three sevens are no good ?
What is this garbage about runner runner? You make it sound like the money went in and he was 1%!!! Fact is the money went in pre so it is irrelevant what the odds where after each street.
The guy was getting the odds to call the short stack also. If he thinks his K rag is going to be around 40% with the amount of blinds already in the pot then it is a easy enough call.
What is this garbage about runner runner? You make it sound like the money went in and he was 1%!!! Fact is the money went in pre so it is irrelevant what the odds where after each street.The guy was getting the odds to call the short stack also. If
That's a common quote from a losing player (not suggesting you are harter BTW) but the "****" brigade only see what they want to see. They push all in AKo when the blinds are 10/20 and get called by QQ, the flop comes AK9, turn, 5, river Q and then cry about the 5% river. It doesn't matter what the odds are on the river, the only thing that matters are the odds when the chips went in, in this case (I'm guessing odds) you're a 46/54% dog.
That's a common quote from a losing player (not suggesting you are harter BTW) but the "****" brigade only see what they want to see. They push all in AKo when the blinds are 10/20 and get called by QQ, the flop comes AK9, turn, 5, river Q and then c
OK how's this one then for another clueless mooron getting paid off?TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-251217192-13 played at "Table #3" for USD TC from 2012-06-25 01:46 until 2012-06-25 01:47 Seat 1: elgolea (965 in chips) Seat 2: MAKAROS100 (6,910 in c
He repops you knowing that if you call and have 2 overs he is still 40% at least, and many hands exist where it is a flip or he is ahead. In fact 78s is in better shape if you had AA than KK is!
The question is....why you called that shove with AKo?
I think I prefer the play by the 78s here much more than I like the call by AKo
LOL 40% rule again 78s is a lovely speccy hand He repops you knowing that if you call and have 2 overs he is still 40% at least, and many hands exist where it is a flip or he is ahead. In fact 78s is in better shape if you had AA than KK is!The ques
I raised 3x bb and he pushed all in. He was showing a lot of bluffs so it seemed like an easy call. On flop I had 2 pair aces and kings he had pair of 7s so what were the odds of the only runner-runner to win? As I said it happens here all the time which is why people push all in with 7-8.+
I raised 3x bb and he pushed all in. He was showing a lot of bluffs so it seemed like an easy call. On flop I had 2 pair aces and kings he had pair of 7s so what were the odds of the only runner-runner to win? As I said it happens here all the time w
Mind you every poker site is the same. I find when I play at a land based casino the play is much more according to the rules - and it doesn't matter if it's a 5-10 sit n go or a $100 buy in tournament. I guess because you don't actually have to show your face you can make a moronic call and when you bust online there isn't the same shame as there is playing live.
Mind you every poker site is the same. I find when I play at a land based casino the play is much more according to the rules - and it doesn't matter if it's a 5-10 sit n go or a $100 buy in tournament. I guess because you don't actually have to show
It is irrelevant what happens on the different streets, the only odds that count is when the money goes in, and he was getting just over 40%.
Your mistake is thinking you are ever going to be a massive favourite with AKo. If you run it 20 times the law of averages if we round it up slightly say you will lose 9 of them.
Maybe you should stop calling these plays moronic and start working out there plays and possible reasoning behind it. Many players would consider your play OOP the poor one!
It is irrelevant what happens on the different streets, the only odds that count is when the money goes in, and he was getting just over 40%.Your mistake is thinking you are ever going to be a massive favourite with AKo. If you run it 20 times the la
Besides I guess what I'm really trying to say is that if the odds are showing 1% then the runner-runner should only hit 1 out of every 100 hands. I'd be curious to see if anyone ever ran a simulation of hands played that went to a showdown after the flop and one person was 99% and the other 1% to see if that is indeed the case. My hunch is it would be substantially higher.
Besides I guess what I'm really trying to say is that if the odds are showing 1% then the runner-runner should only hit 1 out of every 100 hands. I'd be curious to see if anyone ever ran a simulation of hands played that went to a showdown after the
Again lawslaw I see what you're saying but the probabilities are listed at Ongame after each street. I'm just curious to know if the hands play out according to the percentages that are listed and if not then why not?
Again lawslaw I see what you're saying but the probabilities are listed at Ongame after each street. I'm just curious to know if the hands play out according to the percentages that are listed and if not then why not?
As previous stated, the only percentage that matters is when the money goes in not 'in running'. So if you look at AA v KK over a million hand sample I am pretty sure AA would be winning just over 80% of the time.
Human nature makes us see only what we want to see rather than a fuller picture. If we feel we are running bad then we seem only to remember the bad beats and not the s*ckouts.
I look at my history and can use the coinflips on here as an example. I thought I lost a lot of money on them last year because I could only remember the times I used to lose $200+ an hour but decided to check out my results a few weeks back. Coinflips should over a large enough sample give you results of winning and losing around 50% as there is absolutely no edge to them.
So for $20 coin flips I played 3,814 my total buy in was $80,094 and my total winnings was $80,280 so I am just a few BIs up over 3,814 games. Almost Identical patterns exist for another 7,500+ coinflips at $5 and $10.
So personally even though it felt I was getting hammered on these games, the stats tell me I actually made a tiny profit and where a coinflip should be 50/50 I have indeed won about 50.2% of them over a sample of around 11,250.
I for one have no problems with the RNG that Ongame use as to me it seems to run fairly evenly......long term.
As previous stated, the only percentage that matters is when the money goes in not 'in running'. So if you look at AA v KK over a million hand sample I am pretty sure AA would be winning just over 80% of the time.Human nature makes us see only what
And TBF Harter he didn't need runner runner in that last hand.
The 8 is not relevant as the 3rd 7 wins the hand on it's own so he was 13% at the turn with the runner runner 8 possibility as well!
HTH.
And TBF Harter he didn't need runner runner in that last hand.The 8 is not relevant as the 3rd 7 wins the hand on it's own so he was 13% at the turn with the runner runner 8 possibility as well!HTH.
I ran the races report on HEM2 on 250,000 hands and they matched almost exactly to what they should do for a truly random RNG. I have never questioned the RNG on any site, if I lose, I look at my own play.
I think your getting some good advice here Harter but stop banging your head when you get a beat and just move on.
I ran the races report on HEM2 on 250,000 hands and they matched almost exactly to what they should do for a truly random RNG. I have never questioned the RNG on any site, if I lose, I look at my own play.I think your getting some good advice here Ha
Fair enough. Whenever I'm playing and I have say AK and flop.comes say 28A rainbow, invariably someone will move all in, I'll call and they'll show something like 3-5. Sure enouh they'll hit the 4 on the river and type "lol", "in your face" or similar and I'll always type back something like "it doesn't matter because there's no way you can win anyway' and in the end I'll.prove right almost every time - you can't suck out a river every hand.
Fair enough. Whenever I'm playing and I have say AK and flop.comes say 28A rainbow, invariably someone will move all in, I'll call and they'll show something like 3-5. Sure enouh they'll hit the 4 on the river and type "lol", "in your face" or simila
I've said it load of times on here, its illegal to fold 2 suited cards in some countries. This is in a $30 STT where you might expect joined up thinking :
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-251382943-9 played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2012-06-25 18:36 until 2012-06-25 18:37
Seat 1: 48ght (1,550 in chips) Seat 5: pokerf6969 (1,440 in chips) Seat 7: czarnyking (1,605 in chips) Seat 8: sqaul88 (1,490 in chips) Seat 9: pohodahav (1,405 in chips) Seat 10: chipfire227 (1,510 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS chipfire227 posts small blind (15), 48ght posts big blind (30),
TURN [board cards: 8C,8H,3C,TC] chipfire227 bets 125, pokerf6969 raises to 250, chipfire227 raises to 1,390 and is all-in, pokerf6969 calls 1,320 and is all-in.
I've said it load of times on here, its illegal to fold 2 suited cards in some countries. This is in a $30 STT where you might expect joined up thinking :TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-251382943-9 played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2012-06-25 18:36 unt