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Ask them if they can move to the Merge network
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I will deffo be raising the issue of why they are still with Ongame!
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Ongame can't give Betfair a reliable feed, a reliable site, information on colluders etc...
So why are they still persisting? |
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Time to jack it in I reckon. They have tried over the years but the poker side of things has never been run as anything more than a sideline to the main site. Helpful staff have come and gone and the same old problems still persist.
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if you do not mind me asking
Why are you guys bothering with this and what is in it for you? |
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Best of luck both of you and thanks for your persistence.
You have got the major issues and we would just like to see delivery of parts promised. I just think that some of the basics are not there - some basic counting facilities from the software like the old BF. I hate no waiting lists and limited searching facilities be it cash or on a selection on STTs or even the 30 player SnGos. As for leaderboards/promos I'm really confused. And I'm not a noob. I agree with AJ - as a sideline to a betting site it's not given a priority, though my experience of the live set up on the day was fine (though that may be because of where delivered, and the individuals involved). But that just means that I may look at those other small sites (bookmakers that do poker) and see what's on offer and experiment. May even find it is far more profitable and then end up leaving. As I can't find any use for those points just wondered had they thought about using them to buy into tourneys or satellite's. That's pretty much what I'm using my FPPs on stars for. |
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"As I can't find any use for those points".
Umm... Are you talking about player points? You can convert them to cash or use them to buy into tourneys. That's what I use mine for. Or are you talking about something else? |
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There is actually nothing in it for us. We claim our travelling expenses i.e. we submit our train and tube receipts and get them refunded a couple of weeks later, but other than that there is no recompense. Unless you count the fact I got a free Diet-coke and Thrappers got a free hot chocolate to keep us going through the 5 hours of meetings we attened last time.
We both live in the North, and make 8 hour round trips in our own time to attend the sessions. I actually took unpaid leave to attend the last one. Why do we do it ? Dunno, I guess we both started playing on BF a long time ago, still have sentimental reasons for liking the site, and rather than sit around moaning ( which we still do )thought we would actually try and get off our lazy backsides and make a difference. Some things have improved, some things haven't. Like most huge outfits there are people within the organisation who are enthusiastic and quite dynamic and open to suggestions, and others who are in well paid, seemingly secure jobs, who dont like the idea of change because they think things are quite nice as they are. Personally I thought I could represent other players and put forward ideas to improve things. I left the first meeting feeling cautiously optimistic. I now feel pretty hacked off with things, and frankly let down. However I said I would give it 12 months and that is what I intend to do, but I certainly wont be going into this second session with any intention of listening to a load of horsesh1t and lame excuses for a failure to deliver. We actually deserve a lot better than the crap we are currently getting. |
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Harry - I'm on rakeback so I can't convert. That is what I think the explanation is.
Chip/HF I have some Monday lunch-time 50% vouchers to Sticky Fingers - the Rolling Stones burger bar Bill Wyman(just off High Street Kensington) if any use. And they ought to turn your expenses around a lot quicker. |
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Agree with you about the expenses.
![]() Though In all seriousness by the time you have sent off the receipts, someone has authorised them then done what needs to be done to transfer the money to your bank account, its pretty standard. Be nice to get a few positive ideas on the thread as well. As the community game has gone well, I thought we could maybe run one on a Sunday night with possibly some satelitte tickets to BF London Live up for grabs, as I know a lot of people would like to play that event. I also like the idea of a staff vs punters 11 a side football match, followed by a team poker tournament, so we can kick their backsides twice-though in reality they would probably win both. |
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What I would really like, apart from all those things previously mentioned, are better hand histories.
When I am playing I like to look at the hand just gone if I have the time, but ongame only gives us it in a shortened format and not in colour with the playing cards. This makes it take longer to understand the hands played. In ipoker the hand history is in colour, full page, with the cards shown and each player listed separately. I am playing games that are about equal in betfair and ipoker, but I tend to play on ipoker because of the hand histories. |
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Fair play to you both for your efforts.
I remember when this forum was a good laugh and had some real good people on it! I use to really enjoy the community spirit that BF poker once had and it would be great to see that again but I can not see BF ever regaining the trust from the players that they once had. Good luck though. |
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Another thing I would like is a fail safe mechanism for add ons in rebuys. I am usually doing something else whilst playing poker so rely on the sounds to alert me. However, when the break comes there is no sound that the add on is now in operation and I often miss the add on, like today
Surely the notice can remain on there until it is clicked yes or no, not just taken off?I can't help feeling though that there is just too many bad things about ongame. I could think of at least about twenty things I would like to change, so instead of investing in all that work why don't betfair go to a site that works well? |
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I agree with you annie on the hand history, everybody else seems to have a better one.
In terms of the add-on it does stay up till the rebuy is finished but it does not force the window forward when the add on period starts which I think would solve this problem. I also agree that Betfair should leave ongame and find a better host but where we will disagree is you would think that is ipoker and as previously explained I seriously hate ipoker. |
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I think you have misunderstood me, Helmuthian.
I only quote ipoker in reference to how bad ongame is at certain things because that is the only other poker site I have! I am quite amenable to joining other networks. |
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I said it earlier, I'd love Betfair to join the Merge network (although I know there's very little chance of that). Seriously though, if ppl liked the old Betfair software, you would simply love Merge
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Can we have more options for our Store points please, even if just these were added:
Betfair LIVE! Direct buy in : Betfair LIVE! Hospitality package: GSOP Direct buy in: GSOP Hospitality package: If these were offered in the store and in effect didn't charge the buy in fee and gave a 'little discount' on the hospitality packages then it would improve the store vastly and also the profile of the live events IMO. |
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Please throw in a Vegas package for this points thing that lawslaw suggests - i have not been to vegas yet and its left a big hole in my heart!
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like the footie and then poker. Up for that even at my age.
On Annie's rebuy: i'd love auto-rebuy. auto-double rebuy, auto-add on buttons Easy to switch on and off if do not want. pretty much sorted the issue of trying to rebuy or add-on and will not connect to your funds. Have not had that issue for ages so I'll give thrm credit for that. I'm not usually doing something else, I get distracted, or multi-table, and without audible alerts just forget. Then think why did I bother to play. Must be that age - losing a few brain cells... ![]() |
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No add on again
And also, AGAIN, no notes on players, a must have for me. |
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