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chough
18 Nov 11 09:47
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$5 re buy 1000 entrants about 60 players left and i had about 38k in chips .sb1500 bb 3000.

I woke up utg with pkt aces so i flat called action went round to button where a raise of 7.5k which was called by sb i raised it to 21k and was called by both

flop came 9 10 5 so i shoved the last of my chips ( 17k )

I was called by the button who had qj

and  then called by sb who was holding j10s


the flop then came a 10 and the river was a 4 i think but i was all over i was out in about 60th with a paultry $30 .Aces cracked again.I expect if had shoved all of my stack i would still have been called by sb who had over 100k in chips.It just keeps happening bad beats all day long .I wonder if i will ever win
again?

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By:
chough
When: 18 Nov 11 09:48
*the turn
By:
The Klup
When: 18 Nov 11 10:43
Not a lot wrong with it.

I think shipping it pre after the button raise and SB call would have been slightly better as you really want to isolate - after all, you only had 14x bb's and the pot was already worth 50% more chips to you. That said, your game had reached a points where you needed to maximise value on your premium hand.

You definitely needed a double up or triple up if you were to have a deep run.

Just unlucky - and for SB with J10 to call a 4 bet (that wreaked of aces) pre flop - thats the kind of player you want on your table!
By:
wingdings2
When: 18 Nov 11 12:12
As Klup says, not a lot wrong and you have to try and maximise in those situations. I had AA in the ipoker 200k last weekend, re raised a raise and a guy calls with 45. Flop 944. GG it happens, frustrating but you have to move on and wait for the day when the donks miss.
By:
page-413
When: 18 Nov 11 14:54
yes
By:
GrandTilt
When: 18 Nov 11 16:42
I am no expert but I don't think you did much wrong

You raised 7x the big blind nothing wrong with that (although in retrospect an all in would probably have won the pot!)

They probably called thinking that you would shove all in with pretty much anything on the flop as it was 17k into a 63k pot which then gives them nearly 4-1 for a call.

The donks were hoping to get lucky and they did
Better luck next time.

Whoops
By:
chough
When: 18 Nov 11 18:36
Thanks for your replies everybody it's much appreciated. Good luck at the tables
By:
NickFiickTheOriginal
When: 20 Nov 11 19:09
Unlucky.
You will catch a few fish soon and have a big meal.
By:
Dooberama
When: 20 Nov 11 21:30
You played it horribly. Raise, or shove pre.  You may as well have turned your hand face up. 

Luckily both your oppos were playing poker for the first time.
By:
chipfire227
When: 20 Nov 11 21:46
Totally agree with Doobs, limp, re-re-raise from early position, is aces about 90% of the time, and it would be an easy fold for most competent players with 10 j or q j.

I would never limp from early position with a bluff, nobody would, so I would never limp with aces from early position either, unless it was a particularly loose table.

On the flipside a lot of players at the lower levels only ever see their own two cards and act accordingly, if they like the look of them they will play the hand regardless of what it might cost them, so it doesnt really matter whether your hand is disguised or not.

I dont think anyone will ever accuse you of playing a hand badly if you raise with aces every single time you have them though.
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