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TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-9
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 18:57 until 2011-09-26 18:58
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,460 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (1,440 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (1,450 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (1,845 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,430 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,420 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
harkley posts small blind (25), filipe_seara posts big blind (50),
PRE-FLOP
kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M raises to 100, froi13 folds, harkley calls 100, filipe_seara folds.
FLOP [board cards: 3D,4H,3C ]
harkley checks, REAL.M checks.
TURN [board cards: 3D,4H,3C,QS ]
harkley bets 50, REAL.M raises to 175, harkley raises to 350, REAL.M calls 350.
RIVER [board cards: 3D,4H,3C,QS,7C ]
harkley bets 1,000 and is all-in, REAL.M calls 990 and is all-in.
SHOWDOWN
harkley shows [ 3S,TS ]
REAL.M shows [ QC,QD ]
REAL.M wins 2,930.
SUMMARY
Dealer: froi13
Pot: 2,930
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, bets 1,440, collects 2,930, net 1,490
froi13, loses 0
harkley, loses 1,440
filipe_seara, loses 50
kostivlv, loses 0
Bover19851c, loses 0
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 0
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Next hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-10
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 18:58 until 2011-09-26 18:59
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,460 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,930 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (10 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (1,795 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,430 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,420 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
filipe_seara posts small blind (25), kostivlv posts big blind (50),
PRE-FLOP
Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 calls 50, REAL.M calls 50, froi13 folds, harkley calls 10 and is all-in, filipe_seara calls 50, kostivlv raises to 100, 1.n.ais.n.1 calls 100, REAL.M calls 100, filipe_seara calls 100.
FLOP [board cards: AS,TD,5S ]
filipe_seara bets 400, kostivlv folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M folds.
TURN [board cards: AS,TD,5S,TS ]
RIVER [board cards: AS,TD,5S,TS,QS ]
SHOWDOWN
filipe_seara shows [ 5H,AH ]
harkley shows [ TC,7S ]
harkley wins 50, filipe_seara wins 360.
SUMMARY
Dealer: harkley
Pot: 410
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 100
REAL.M, loses 100
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 10, collects 50, net 40
filipe_seara, bets 100, collects 360, net 260
kostivlv, loses 100
Bover19851c, loses 0
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 0
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Next hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-11
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 18:59 until 2011-09-26 19:00
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,360 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,830 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (50 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (2,055 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,330 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,420 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
BETTING_LEVELS_CHANGED
, kostivlv posts small blind (50), Bover19851c posts big blind (100),
PRE-FLOP
pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M calls 100, froi13 folds, harkley calls 50 and is all-in, filipe_seara folds, kostivlv calls 100, Bover19851c checks.
FLOP [board cards: 7C,JC,8D ]
kostivlv checks, Bover19851c checks, REAL.M checks.
TURN [board cards: 7C,JC,8D,TC ]
kostivlv checks, Bover19851c checks, REAL.M bets 100, kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds.
RIVER [board cards: 7C,JC,8D,TC,QC ]
SHOWDOWN
REAL.M shows [ QD,JH ]
harkley shows [ TH,9S ]
harkley wins 200, REAL.M wins 150.
SUMMARY
Dealer: filipe_seara
Pot: 350
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, bets 100, collects 150, net 50
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 50, collects 200, net 150
filipe_seara, loses 0
kostivlv, loses 100
Bover19851c, loses 100
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 0
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Next Hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-12
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 19:00 until 2011-09-26 19:01
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,360 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,880 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (200 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (2,055 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,230 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,320 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Bover19851c posts small blind (50), pro100nubas posts big blind (100),
PRE-FLOP
Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 raises to 905 and is all-in, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M folds, froi13 folds, harkley calls 200 and is all-in, filipe_seara folds, kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds.
FLOP [board cards: JD,5H,3D ]
TURN [board cards: JD,5H,3D,JC ]
RIVER [board cards: JD,5H,3D,JC,QH ]
SHOWDOWN
chancentod10 shows [ KS,AC ]
harkley shows [ 9D,9C ]
harkley wins 550.
SUMMARY
Dealer: kostivlv
Pot: 550
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, loses 0
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 200, collects 550, net 350
filipe_seara, loses 0
kostivlv, loses 0
Bover19851c, loses 50
pro100nubas, loses 100
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 200
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2 hands later
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-14
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 19:01 until 2011-09-26 19:02
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,360 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,780 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (550 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (2,305 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,230 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,270 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,320 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,200 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (705 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
BETTING_LEVELS_CHANGED
, Fortuna_las posts small blind (75), chancentod10 posts big blind (150),
PRE-FLOP
1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M calls 150, froi13 folds, harkley raises to 550 and is all-in, filipe_seara folds, kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 raises to 705 and is all-in, REAL.M folds.
FLOP [board cards: 4D,JC,TS ]
TURN [board cards: 4D,JC,TS,KC ]
RIVER [board cards: 4D,JC,TS,KC,8D ]
SHOWDOWN
chancentod10 shows [ 6S,6H ]
harkley shows [ 7D,7S ]
harkley wins 1,325.
SUMMARY
Dealer: pro100nubas
Pot: 1,325
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, loses 150
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 550, collects 1,325, net 775
filipe_seara, loses 0
kostivlv, loses 0
Bover19851c, loses 0
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 75
chancentod10, loses 550
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skip ahead to the last hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-34
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 19:16 until 2011-09-26 19:17
Seat 4: harkley (13,920 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,080 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
kostivlv posts ante (60), harkley posts ante (60), harkley posts small blind (300), kostivlv posts big blind (600),
PRE-FLOP
harkley raises to 1,500, kostivlv calls 1,020 and is all-in.
FLOP [board cards: 5S,6H,2S ]
TURN [board cards: 5S,6H,2S,6D ]
RIVER [board cards: 5S,6H,2S,6D,8C ]
SHOWDOWN
harkley shows [ JH,KS ]
kostivlv shows [ JS,7H ]
harkley wins 2,160.
SUMMARY
Dealer: harkley
Pot: 2,160
harkley, bets 1,080, collects 2,160, net 1,080
kostivlv, loses 1,080
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So with 1 chip and 10 players left to winner. I heard about those things happening but didn't think it was possible :).
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 18:57 until 2011-09-26 18:58
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,460 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (1,440 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (1,450 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (1,845 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,430 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,420 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
harkley posts small blind (25), filipe_seara posts big blind (50),
PRE-FLOP
kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M raises to 100, froi13 folds, harkley calls 100, filipe_seara folds.
FLOP [board cards: 3D,4H,3C ]
harkley checks, REAL.M checks.
TURN [board cards: 3D,4H,3C,QS ]
harkley bets 50, REAL.M raises to 175, harkley raises to 350, REAL.M calls 350.
RIVER [board cards: 3D,4H,3C,QS,7C ]
harkley bets 1,000 and is all-in, REAL.M calls 990 and is all-in.
SHOWDOWN
harkley shows [ 3S,TS ]
REAL.M shows [ QC,QD ]
REAL.M wins 2,930.
SUMMARY
Dealer: froi13
Pot: 2,930
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, bets 1,440, collects 2,930, net 1,490
froi13, loses 0
harkley, loses 1,440
filipe_seara, loses 50
kostivlv, loses 0
Bover19851c, loses 0
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 0
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Next hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-10
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 18:58 until 2011-09-26 18:59
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,460 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,930 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (10 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (1,795 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,430 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,420 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
filipe_seara posts small blind (25), kostivlv posts big blind (50),
PRE-FLOP
Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 calls 50, REAL.M calls 50, froi13 folds, harkley calls 10 and is all-in, filipe_seara calls 50, kostivlv raises to 100, 1.n.ais.n.1 calls 100, REAL.M calls 100, filipe_seara calls 100.
FLOP [board cards: AS,TD,5S ]
filipe_seara bets 400, kostivlv folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M folds.
TURN [board cards: AS,TD,5S,TS ]
RIVER [board cards: AS,TD,5S,TS,QS ]
SHOWDOWN
filipe_seara shows [ 5H,AH ]
harkley shows [ TC,7S ]
harkley wins 50, filipe_seara wins 360.
SUMMARY
Dealer: harkley
Pot: 410
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 100
REAL.M, loses 100
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 10, collects 50, net 40
filipe_seara, bets 100, collects 360, net 260
kostivlv, loses 100
Bover19851c, loses 0
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 0
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Next hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-11
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 18:59 until 2011-09-26 19:00
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,360 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,830 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (50 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (2,055 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,330 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,420 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
BETTING_LEVELS_CHANGED
, kostivlv posts small blind (50), Bover19851c posts big blind (100),
PRE-FLOP
pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 folds, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M calls 100, froi13 folds, harkley calls 50 and is all-in, filipe_seara folds, kostivlv calls 100, Bover19851c checks.
FLOP [board cards: 7C,JC,8D ]
kostivlv checks, Bover19851c checks, REAL.M checks.
TURN [board cards: 7C,JC,8D,TC ]
kostivlv checks, Bover19851c checks, REAL.M bets 100, kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds.
RIVER [board cards: 7C,JC,8D,TC,QC ]
SHOWDOWN
REAL.M shows [ QD,JH ]
harkley shows [ TH,9S ]
harkley wins 200, REAL.M wins 150.
SUMMARY
Dealer: filipe_seara
Pot: 350
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, bets 100, collects 150, net 50
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 50, collects 200, net 150
filipe_seara, loses 0
kostivlv, loses 100
Bover19851c, loses 100
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 0
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Next Hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-12
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 19:00 until 2011-09-26 19:01
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,360 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,880 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (200 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (2,055 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,230 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,320 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,300 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (905 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Bover19851c posts small blind (50), pro100nubas posts big blind (100),
PRE-FLOP
Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 raises to 905 and is all-in, 1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M folds, froi13 folds, harkley calls 200 and is all-in, filipe_seara folds, kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds.
FLOP [board cards: JD,5H,3D ]
TURN [board cards: JD,5H,3D,JC ]
RIVER [board cards: JD,5H,3D,JC,QH ]
SHOWDOWN
chancentod10 shows [ KS,AC ]
harkley shows [ 9D,9C ]
harkley wins 550.
SUMMARY
Dealer: kostivlv
Pot: 550
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, loses 0
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 200, collects 550, net 350
filipe_seara, loses 0
kostivlv, loses 0
Bover19851c, loses 50
pro100nubas, loses 100
Fortuna_las, loses 0
chancentod10, loses 200
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2 hands later
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-14
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 19:01 until 2011-09-26 19:02
Seat 1: 1.n.ais.n.1 (1,360 in chips)
Seat 2: REAL.M (2,780 in chips)
Seat 3: froi13 (1,280 in chips)
Seat 4: harkley (550 in chips)
Seat 5: filipe_seara (2,305 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,230 in chips)
Seat 7: Bover19851c (2,270 in chips)
Seat 8: pro100nubas (1,320 in chips)
Seat 9: Fortuna_las (1,200 in chips)
Seat 10: chancentod10 (705 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
BETTING_LEVELS_CHANGED
, Fortuna_las posts small blind (75), chancentod10 posts big blind (150),
PRE-FLOP
1.n.ais.n.1 folds, REAL.M calls 150, froi13 folds, harkley raises to 550 and is all-in, filipe_seara folds, kostivlv folds, Bover19851c folds, pro100nubas folds, Fortuna_las folds, chancentod10 raises to 705 and is all-in, REAL.M folds.
FLOP [board cards: 4D,JC,TS ]
TURN [board cards: 4D,JC,TS,KC ]
RIVER [board cards: 4D,JC,TS,KC,8D ]
SHOWDOWN
chancentod10 shows [ 6S,6H ]
harkley shows [ 7D,7S ]
harkley wins 1,325.
SUMMARY
Dealer: pro100nubas
Pot: 1,325
1.n.ais.n.1, loses 0
REAL.M, loses 150
froi13, loses 0
harkley, bets 550, collects 1,325, net 775
filipe_seara, loses 0
kostivlv, loses 0
Bover19851c, loses 0
pro100nubas, loses 0
Fortuna_las, loses 75
chancentod10, loses 550
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skip ahead to the last hand
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-178872919-34
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-26 19:16 until 2011-09-26 19:17
Seat 4: harkley (13,920 in chips)
Seat 6: kostivlv (1,080 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
kostivlv posts ante (60), harkley posts ante (60), harkley posts small blind (300), kostivlv posts big blind (600),
PRE-FLOP
harkley raises to 1,500, kostivlv calls 1,020 and is all-in.
FLOP [board cards: 5S,6H,2S ]
TURN [board cards: 5S,6H,2S,6D ]
RIVER [board cards: 5S,6H,2S,6D,8C ]
SHOWDOWN
harkley shows [ JH,KS ]
kostivlv shows [ JS,7H ]
harkley wins 2,160.
SUMMARY
Dealer: harkley
Pot: 2,160
harkley, bets 1,080, collects 2,160, net 1,080
kostivlv, loses 1,080
____
So with 1 chip and 10 players left to winner. I heard about those things happening but didn't think it was possible :).
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Incredible! Well done mate. Ive seen EVVO win one from 20 chips so this is the second time ive seen it done.
10 chips to victory is legendary!
for those non believers, here is the full HH thread: http://www.pokernetwork.co.uk/games/handhistory/?sRoundReference=T5-178872919-33&searchType=next
I had to check myself!
10 chips to victory is legendary!
for those non believers, here is the full HH thread: http://www.pokernetwork.co.uk/games/handhistory/?sRoundReference=T5-178872919-33&searchType=next
I had to check myself!
Isn't this just more proof that ongame is full of sh@t?
Or is it skill beacause you won??
Or is it skill beacause you won??
so i guess this hand (see link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDGBvzEVwYM ) in the main event makes the wsop full of sh@t too?
Isn't this just more proof that ongame is full of sh@t?
Or is it skill beacause you won??
Neither. There's nothing skillfull about going all in 4 straight times and lucking out. There's several hands I played during the game I wouldn't have usually played otherwise.
Actually I have never been upset with Ongame because of bad beats (they happen). What I get upset at is the number of times there are head to head all ins in an STT where a player wins on the river where they were more than a 90% underdog. In most games you usually see a blank but it seems at Ongame there is rarely a blank on the river. I know it's not unique to Ongame (PokerStars is referred to as RiverStars by many) but it just seems there is no reason there should be so many river wins here.
As for the full of shyte comment I was referring to a hand where I was shown as 99% but in reality was a 500/1 favourite and lost to the only possible 2 card combination which gave both of us a straight flush. The reality of that happening is the same as Lichtenstein beating the Netherlands in an important game leading up to the World Cup. If this was a very rare occurrence you would shun it off but hands like that seem to come up way too often.
I'm also very concerned (and I'm surprised others aren't also) with a major executive from the company that owns the poker network admitting on camera that "we try to attract fish."
How exactly do you attract anyone in a way that guarantees 100% randomness? I'm just looking for an explanation. To me it's like having a politician on camera admitting to wrongdoing but instead of coming clean he deflects the comment as "spoken out of context."
Or is it skill beacause you won??
Neither. There's nothing skillfull about going all in 4 straight times and lucking out. There's several hands I played during the game I wouldn't have usually played otherwise.
Actually I have never been upset with Ongame because of bad beats (they happen). What I get upset at is the number of times there are head to head all ins in an STT where a player wins on the river where they were more than a 90% underdog. In most games you usually see a blank but it seems at Ongame there is rarely a blank on the river. I know it's not unique to Ongame (PokerStars is referred to as RiverStars by many) but it just seems there is no reason there should be so many river wins here.
As for the full of shyte comment I was referring to a hand where I was shown as 99% but in reality was a 500/1 favourite and lost to the only possible 2 card combination which gave both of us a straight flush. The reality of that happening is the same as Lichtenstein beating the Netherlands in an important game leading up to the World Cup. If this was a very rare occurrence you would shun it off but hands like that seem to come up way too often.
I'm also very concerned (and I'm surprised others aren't also) with a major executive from the company that owns the poker network admitting on camera that "we try to attract fish."
How exactly do you attract anyone in a way that guarantees 100% randomness? I'm just looking for an explanation. To me it's like having a politician on camera admitting to wrongdoing but instead of coming clean he deflects the comment as "spoken out of context."
I stopped reading after you called with 10/3 suited from the small blind in the first hand for 5% of your stack. Everything after that will just be irrelevant.
I take it that that joke went straight over your head klup??
OK Chipfire humour me here.
I was SB and a guy who I have played against before and I know raises with virtually anything pre-flop when close to the button raised it 3x to 100 and with 3-10 suited I decided to call a 75 chip raise with 1,450 chips left for yes 5% of my stack.
What was so insanely bad about that call that you stopped reading?
I was SB and a guy who I have played against before and I know raises with virtually anything pre-flop when close to the button raised it 3x to 100 and with 3-10 suited I decided to call a 75 chip raise with 1,450 chips left for yes 5% of my stack.
What was so insanely bad about that call that you stopped reading?
BTW you'll notice it was the 9th hand not the first. I lost 50 chips a bit earlier but folded almost everything up to that point.
Whilst I appreciate the fact I spent more on a standard size packet of crisps today than you did buying in to this game, you cannot seriously expect me to list all of the reasons your call with 10 3 suited from out of position is wrong.
The amazing thing is that on another thread you are berating Ongame for offering greater financial incentives to fish to encourage them to keep playing.
The amazing thing is that on another thread you are berating Ongame for offering greater financial incentives to fish to encourage them to keep playing.
Oh and given you chose to see a flop, what this guy does or doesnt do pre flop is largely irreleavnt.If his raising range was small then at least you know where you are, if its wide you haven't a clue, you are first to act, and 95% of the time you will have to bluff to win the pot against a player you have suggested plays a lot of hands.
The only note it would make sense for you to be quoting in this instance would be one that states the villian folds 100% of his hands post flop if someone bets.
The only note it would make sense for you to be quoting in this instance would be one that states the villian folds 100% of his hands post flop if someone bets.
Totally agree with chipfire! (as i usually do!) I love the way that harter say's the guy is super loose
to justify his own bad play lol!! 10 3 suited oop..........fml :)
to justify his own bad play lol!! 10 3 suited oop..........fml :)
Whilst I appreciate the fact I spent more on a standard size packet of crisps today than you did buying in to this game
Me too - hickory sticks to be exact.
Fwiw, when I registered for the game it was late and there was nothing else with any players so I decided to register. It wasn't to get rich but to kill some time and have a bit of fun before bed. But the buy in was irrelevant. I was just amazed it was possible to come back with 10 players left in a 10 seater with less than 1/2 small blind and win. Maybe the title of my thread should have been different.
That aside I'll address some other issues. I play smaller buy-ins and mostly turbos. I think my breakdown is something like 2/5 $3, 2/5 $5 and the occassional $1 to $20 buy in. I have played in NL cash games and MTTs and I never had an issue. I have won satellites to major buy ins and I confess the play there was completely different than in these smaller buy in sit n gos.
I know the software isn't **** (I'm not that stupid) but I find that for whatever reason the play at Ongame, particularly in these smaller sit n gos is questionable. It's hard to play properly or enjoyably when you have a moron that constanbly raises all in with anything. You have AQ suited - what the hell are you supposed to do given your tournament could be on the line but you also know if no one ever calls this chump will just steal all the blinds the whole game. That's where the comment "we try to attract fish" by the ongame director is troubling. If these are the type of players ongame is trying to attract then I think they're hurting the product.
I confess the small buy-ins may be one of the problems. A lot of the complainers I see on the forum are the same ones I see in games I play. Obviously a $100 buy in will result in different play. But while I could afford to play the $100 buy ins to me that's not fun. I much prefer the lower buy in where if I lose I just shun it off but losing 2 or 3 $100 games would be my bankroll for the week. And IMO play shouldn't be so much different at the various levels.
I guess the other truth is I just preferred the old BF software and I found the tournaments when it was only BF customers were far more enjoyable - both in the area of play and chat. It was nice to discuss sports plays or scores at the tables with others you knew had similar interests to your own. I find now with ongame few if any say a word or respond to chat.
I don't know if it's possible or even feasible but why not create games that are for BF cutomers only at the various levels for STTs and MTTs even if it uses Ongame software.
Me too - hickory sticks to be exact.
Fwiw, when I registered for the game it was late and there was nothing else with any players so I decided to register. It wasn't to get rich but to kill some time and have a bit of fun before bed. But the buy in was irrelevant. I was just amazed it was possible to come back with 10 players left in a 10 seater with less than 1/2 small blind and win. Maybe the title of my thread should have been different.
That aside I'll address some other issues. I play smaller buy-ins and mostly turbos. I think my breakdown is something like 2/5 $3, 2/5 $5 and the occassional $1 to $20 buy in. I have played in NL cash games and MTTs and I never had an issue. I have won satellites to major buy ins and I confess the play there was completely different than in these smaller buy in sit n gos.
I know the software isn't **** (I'm not that stupid) but I find that for whatever reason the play at Ongame, particularly in these smaller sit n gos is questionable. It's hard to play properly or enjoyably when you have a moron that constanbly raises all in with anything. You have AQ suited - what the hell are you supposed to do given your tournament could be on the line but you also know if no one ever calls this chump will just steal all the blinds the whole game. That's where the comment "we try to attract fish" by the ongame director is troubling. If these are the type of players ongame is trying to attract then I think they're hurting the product.
I confess the small buy-ins may be one of the problems. A lot of the complainers I see on the forum are the same ones I see in games I play. Obviously a $100 buy in will result in different play. But while I could afford to play the $100 buy ins to me that's not fun. I much prefer the lower buy in where if I lose I just shun it off but losing 2 or 3 $100 games would be my bankroll for the week. And IMO play shouldn't be so much different at the various levels.
I guess the other truth is I just preferred the old BF software and I found the tournaments when it was only BF customers were far more enjoyable - both in the area of play and chat. It was nice to discuss sports plays or scores at the tables with others you knew had similar interests to your own. I find now with ongame few if any say a word or respond to chat.
I don't know if it's possible or even feasible but why not create games that are for BF cutomers only at the various levels for STTs and MTTs even if it uses Ongame software.
The **** word was R1gged. No idea why that word is forbidden.
I confess the small buy-ins may be one of the problems. A lot of the complainers I see on the forum are the same ones I see in games I play. Obviously a $100 buy in will result in different play. But while I could afford to play the $100 buy ins to me that's not fun. I much prefer the lower buy in where if I lose I just shun it off but losing 2 or 3 $100 games would be my bankroll for the week. And IMO play shouldn't be so much different at the various levels.
so its differrent but it shouldent be differrent ?
so its differrent but it shouldent be differrent ?
Standard is definitely worse at lower levels. Too many 'wannabe numpties' down there.
Are you for real harter?? You are troubled because ongame try to attract fish???
You get ace queen and wonder what are you supposed to do???
Please can you tell me what levels you are playing at today so that i can come and say hi :)
You get ace queen and wonder what are you supposed to do???
Please can you tell me what levels you are playing at today so that i can come and say hi :)
I wasnt being derogatory over the buy in by the way, everyone has to start somewhere, and I know there are decent players at micro stakes playing at their level simply for enjoyment.
However you also have to appreciate that with a 60 pence buy in you will get a lot of uber loose play, and a lot of donk calls.
Daniel Negreanu actually stated that AQ is the hand beginners lose the most money with because they over-rate a hand that will often be dominated when their has been heavy action pre-flop.
I gave a bit of coaching to a kid about 18 months ago who was starting out. He now plays 50$ stts and is making it pay. First few things I got him to do was stop playing aq and kj where there had been a raise,to stop calling from the small blinds, and to play more suited connectors in position when he could see a cheap flop.
However you also have to appreciate that with a 60 pence buy in you will get a lot of uber loose play, and a lot of donk calls.
Daniel Negreanu actually stated that AQ is the hand beginners lose the most money with because they over-rate a hand that will often be dominated when their has been heavy action pre-flop.
I gave a bit of coaching to a kid about 18 months ago who was starting out. He now plays 50$ stts and is making it pay. First few things I got him to do was stop playing aq and kj where there had been a raise,to stop calling from the small blinds, and to play more suited connectors in position when he could see a cheap flop.
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