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Please post here for any questions you have for John in next week's challenge

For the next two weeks we will still be having a Community Tournament whilst we decide on a long term strategy based on your feedback.

It will be at the usual time of 8pm and will have the following structure


I’ve setup this week’s tourney with $100 added.

$5 buy in + $5 one rebuys (2000) +$5 one add-on (5000)
10 minute levels – 2k starting stack

No password – 20:00 UKT wed, 9th May

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Report KunkuWap May 2, 2012 8:27 PM BST
yes he tilted about that.
Report MrFancyPant May 2, 2012 8:31 PM BST
Is Sorel Tristan in disguise?
Report ajcairns. May 2, 2012 8:32 PM BST
any tips for overcoming jetlag?
Report MrFancyPant May 2, 2012 8:33 PM BST
dont fly
Report MrFancyPant May 2, 2012 8:33 PM BST
get the bus
Report petersfield May 2, 2012 8:34 PM BST
count sheep jumping backwards over a fence
Report MrFancyPant May 2, 2012 8:38 PM BST
Modric --What a goal!
Report eckithump May 2, 2012 9:08 PM BST
Fascinating show John and Sorel. ty
Report somebody May 3, 2012 1:32 PM BST
format was aweful this time too turbo + too short stakes.
Report GrandTilt May 9, 2012 2:17 PM BST
I've tweaked the structure this week so it's less turbo. (see above)

Kunku will be joining you this evening.
Don't forget to tune into his radio show.

Report KunkuWap May 9, 2012 5:19 PM BST
Hi guys,

Hope you are well and glad you enjoyed last weeks radio show. I was planning on having another, but a very different special guest on the show tonight but it just hasn't planned out. So, hopefully it will be next week.

Anyway, I don't have anyone as a co-host for tonight and I am in quite a few of the SCOOPs, so it is going to be extremely difficult to manage them optimally + the show + responding on the forum. As you all know, I LOVE a challenge and am more than happy to give it a go if enough of you are going to be present and want me to do so.

Let me know what you guys want to do.

Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 7:09 PM BST
you know us John, we will be listening as usual.

(all three of us)
Report Bruce Willis May 9, 2012 7:18 PM BST
Even if it's just the sound of your toilet flushing, we will listen.
Report Gillsfan May 9, 2012 7:28 PM BST
yep, it won't be the same if my missus doesn't have a go at me for listening with the sound up high so I can hear the quiz questions.........
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 7:46 PM BST
Im all ears!  Can you talk us through some of your SCOOP hands?
Report KunkuWap May 9, 2012 7:47 PM BST
ok well just talk poker hands then...
Report Bruce Willis May 9, 2012 7:56 PM BST
whats your stars username again? might follow a few if you go deep
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 7:57 PM BST
John, is there anything in the pipeline in terms of another Ambassador Challenge?
Report KunkuWap May 9, 2012 7:58 PM BST
Ok, lets go live in a few mins...for those of you whom are playing scoops or have it open, please follow me, my alias is HonestPete as I will talk through my hands live. And when I don't have anything I will talk about hnads from my deep run yesterday in event 3.

Sorry, but this is going to be our first poker-centric show! Well return to quizes next week. If you guys get bored just let me know.
Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 7:59 PM BST
just listening to John type and drop things on the floor
Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 7:59 PM BST
lol can hear him having a p1ss now!

classic radio
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 8:01 PM BST
Im sitting next to you John....Mr drinkie
Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 8:03 PM BST
making some snacks by the sound of things now
Report KunkuWap May 9, 2012 8:03 PM BST
a) wow mic was on and I didn't realise! I was actually making banana slices + hazelnut butter as a quick snack

b) my table wont load !!
Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 8:03 PM BST
and now off
Report Gillsfan May 9, 2012 8:04 PM BST
cannot hear anything, hold on here you are
Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 8:06 PM BST
whats the stars id john so we can rail you?
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 8:07 PM BST
Report Gillsfan May 9, 2012 8:08 PM BST
ooops swearing before the watershed..............
Report KunkuWap May 9, 2012 8:08 PM BST
can you guys here me?
Report Bruce Willis May 9, 2012 8:08 PM BST
we can hear
Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 8:09 PM BST
yup, loud and clear

although by the sounds of things I reckon you are a bit dehydrated tbh
Report Bruce Willis May 9, 2012 8:11 PM BST
Watching football, playing on 3 different poker sites and listening to John. That's multi-tasking
Report ajcairns. May 9, 2012 8:27 PM BST
i reckon this community game might run a while with this structure (although its better than last week)
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 8:27 PM BST
respect to isildur with his start to scoop!
Report NickFiickTheOriginal May 9, 2012 8:29 PM BST
I do not usually listen. Either footie. Midsomer murder etc. But today watching and listening about the foxes.
Changing to 1RB different. But looks OK so thanks.
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 8:30 PM BST
Problems at betfair are sick at the moment.  Had so many problems recently.  Tables, cashouts at tables, crashes when multi-tabling.
Report Bruce Willis May 9, 2012 8:32 PM BST
PLaying two tournies, im 1st in both haha
Report Bruce Willis May 9, 2012 8:33 PM BST
one is the team betfair wsop, another on redbet, some freeroll for cash.
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 8:35 PM BST
chin up m8
Report eckithump May 9, 2012 8:36 PM BST
Unlucky John – great commentary.
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 8:38 PM BST
what time do the scoop mtts start, uk time?
Report Bruce Willis May 9, 2012 8:38 PM BST
Are you playing PLO cash tonight?
Report KunkuWap May 9, 2012 8:43 PM BST
Hi guys,

Thanks for the kind words.

SCOOPS start from 4pm, 7pm and 10pm. 3 sets of MTTs usually.

Yes, i'm going to play some PLO if the tables load in prob 30mins time. Going to chill then put in a solid session. Really hope the tables open, it's very tilting!
Report MrFancyPant May 9, 2012 8:46 PM BST
Its nice to know its hurts the pros as much as us little guys.  You'll make it all back and more tonight John.
Report Gillsfan May 9, 2012 10:01 PM BST
Hi John, obviously not a good result for you, but on the flip side it was great to hear your thoughts about the game and how you were playing, well worth the entrance fee!!

I am sure that will just be a small blip,

See you next week
Report GrandTilt May 10, 2012 10:27 AM BST
How was the structure for everyone last night?
Report ajcairns. May 11, 2012 11:52 PM BST
There wasnt a lot wrong with the original format we played through the league games.  If it aint broke etc...

That said the single rebuy offered a bit more to think about and there were a few different strategies about.  Some elected to take it straight away, some didnt take it all.  I opted to take it after about 20 mins when I had lost about a quarter of my stack.  The issue I then encountered was trying to make sure I got to the add on without busting.  I seem to remember a fair few didnt make it to the add on, perhaps due to losing both stacks. 

Not sure what time the game finished as there seemed like a lot of chips in play due to the large add on.

All in all, better than the week before but still not as good as the original.
Report KunkuWap May 16, 2012 4:32 PM BST
Hi All,

Was last weeks radio style too boring or ok? I'm quite conscious of the fact that we actually talked about poker for once! Tonight I am playing a few more scoops so I really can't do much different to last week. So if you want we can do the same again, otherwise leave it until next week and return to our usual frolic with quiz Qs.

Let me know what ya'll want.

Also, if you guys want to do the community home game, we need to do it before june 20th or I plan on leaving for Vegas then.

Report appollo May 16, 2012 5:23 PM BST
Doesn't look as if we are playing at all. I can't see the game in the lobby.
I'm in for the community home game if we can get it organised.
Report ajcairns. May 16, 2012 7:20 PM BST
shame there is no community game in the lobby - perhaps this is bf's way of further improving the structure?  Wink

I did make a moderate attempt at getting the home game off the ground but a lack of info was forthcoming from betfairs direction.  I would still like it to happen but sorting it in the next 5 weeks or so might be a bit tight.  Better to sort for the summer and let everyone have enough notice.
Report Givethedogabone May 23, 2012 6:24 PM BST
Is there a Community Game tonight,
Report NickFiickTheOriginal May 23, 2012 7:54 PM BST
Report Givethedogabone May 23, 2012 11:17 PM BST
Calling BF Team, when will these games start up again, I find they are excellent value for money, great format 10,000 chips, etc good prizes and great banter, please keep up the good work... I like the idea of sporting prizes, but understand people prefer tickets to live games etc, maybe you could offer both, either a tourney package or Sporting Prize instead or both.
Report WELL PED OFF May 29, 2012 9:48 AM BST
John (KunkuWap) why don't you ring head office
And sort the home game. Looks like AJ has had no
Joy or help off them .
Report singlecask May 29, 2012 1:20 PM BST
Betfair show once again how little it cares for the poker players on this site. Weeks this has been going on and yet not even a post to let us know what the sp is.

No community game !
No home game !
No updates !

keep it up betfair and you should chase away what players you have left playing on your site ..wp nh ect.
Report ajcairns. May 29, 2012 10:12 PM BST
game is in the lobby for tomorrow night

$5 buy in, 1hour of $5 rebuys (2000) then $5 add-on (5000)
10 minute levels – 2k starting stack
Report NickFiickTheOriginal May 29, 2012 11:59 PM BST
Yes and still zero registered.
Looks like 1 hour of 1 $5 rebuy to me.
And as no late reg on this site I'm thinking about not playing this but play my donkfestWSOP ticket instead
Report ajcairns. May 30, 2012 7:18 PM BST
Report KunkuWap May 30, 2012 7:52 PM BST
HI guys,

Sorry for the late reply, last couple days has been beyond tilting. Had my biggest buyin losing days ever, dropped 40 buyins in 2 days....plo is hell. about 40-50 buying under ev too for these two days. So my head has been all over the place.

Anyway, the tourney is 1 rebuy and one addon at the end. So its basically $15.

I will also be starting off the quiz again if there are enough of you guys around.

Hope to get this show back on track.

See you shortly.
Report KunkuWap May 30, 2012 8:05 PM BST
Anyone about?
Report WELL PED OFF May 30, 2012 8:11 PM BST
is the radio on JT
Report eckithump May 30, 2012 8:12 PM BST
Hi John welcome back - hope you get back to winning ways soon!
Report KunkuWap May 30, 2012 8:14 PM BST
Hi Guys,

Seems like only couple people around and not too many entrants in the tourney tonight so I will feel very lonely talking to myself and no one listening.

I've finally got betfair to send out a mail out tomorrow to finally ramp things up, so the quiz will be back on next week.

Just to let you guys know...Im playing the new $1 ultra come join me over the next hour...should be fun.

Report wayne3571 May 30, 2012 8:20 PM BST
cant hear you mate
Report KunkuWap May 30, 2012 8:22 PM BST
opposite of ^^
Report WELL PED OFF May 30, 2012 8:41 PM BST
Are you on the radio
Report Bruce Willis May 30, 2012 8:44 PM BST
Report chipfire227 May 30, 2012 10:15 PM BST
29 runners. Is that a new record low ? Even the STT lobby is dying on its feet. Perhaps they are all playing low stakes ultra turbos ?

Will the last one to leave turn off the lights, and change the sign on the door to ARCADE ?
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 6:58 PM BST
Hello everyone,

I am hoping you are all here and ready to have some fun! I have been obliterated the last few weeks at PLO and my soul along with my sanity has been crushed and that can only mean we are going to have our best show ever tonight! I have some giveaways for tonight and some of you may have seen that there is also a banner advertising the radio show on the client. Wooohooo.

ALSO rakeback has been paid early which is a lifeline for me due to crushaments. All in all, I am VERY excited for tonight and hope you guys can join me.

Report Bruce Willis June 6, 2012 7:23 PM BST
Report NickFiickTheOriginal June 6, 2012 7:26 PM BST
John you have about 30 minutes to convince me to play tonight.
1. Only on BF coz of WSOP freeroll. Got alert but none in lobby.
2. Awful lag for ages so on not want to risk cash
3. No chance of listening & playing as expect not be able to raise call or folD.

Rakeback early wow.

Post here.Laugh
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 7:29 PM BST
I will make you laugh. If I don't I will treat you to an espresso martini in vegas.
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 7:36 PM BST
Also I'm going to be giving away a few $5.50 mtt tickets....
Report Bruce Willis June 6, 2012 7:41 PM BST
Did you get my priv message john?
Report NickFiickTheOriginal June 6, 2012 7:47 PM BST
Ok. I'll even try & listen to see if I can crash BF.
Really laggy & will try to miss table moves.
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 7:56 PM BST
Just saw it now that you told me. Want me to answer via PM or live on show as it will tie in nicely with what I was going to talk about anyway...along with my sanity rapidly evaporating. Perhaps it would be more correct if I said disintegrating? Words for thought.
Report MrFancyPant June 6, 2012 7:57 PM BST
Whats with the new lag when moving tables in a mtt and destroys all cash tables.  Life tilt!!!
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 7:59 PM BST
What's with the new RNG where you lose every hand until your brain melts? It's all very tilting.

But, we find ways to make it work, just like a shepherds pie. The old classic is still the best :)
Report MrFancyPant June 6, 2012 8:00 PM BST
John, you deserve a medal!
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 8:01 PM BST

starting in 102 seconds...
Report Bruce Willis June 6, 2012 8:02 PM BST
Feel free to talk about it on the show, cheers
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 8:06 PM BST
Can anyone hear me?
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 8:07 PM BST
so tilting. talking 5mins to myself. again.
Report MrFancyPant June 6, 2012 8:08 PM BST
nothing yet
Report Bruce Willis June 6, 2012 8:08 PM BST
Can't hear you on the old link or the new one from the client Cry
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 8:09 PM BST
SO SICK. Let me ring betfair siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
Report ajcairns. June 6, 2012 8:09 PM BST
cant hear owt here either
Report marsbar_76 June 6, 2012 8:13 PM BST
nope nothing yet
Report NickFiickTheOriginal June 6, 2012 8:15 PM BST
Looks like you have to post here
Report MrFancyPant June 6, 2012 8:18 PM BST
are we going to get another ambassador challenege?
Report Bruce Willis June 6, 2012 8:24 PM BST
Ask betfair if I need to turn the volume up on my speakers Laugh
Report MrFancyPant June 6, 2012 8:30 PM BST
is it officially suspended?
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 8:32 PM BST
How disappointing. Next week it will have to be.

Bruce, in response to your question:

1 - I have played approx 130k hands since I have started PLO 2-3 months ago and am currently down 30k and my ev is +30k. (i can get open HM and get exact stats for anyone who wants). Ive played majority @ $5-$5 PLO, $500 buyin where im down around 40 buyins under EV...but this doesn't paint the whole picture as it only looks at hands once your all in. Not the surrounding scenario, as it simply cannot calculate that. I'm officially 80 buyins under EV but I would suspect the real number is around 120...but we ALL think we are running worse than we are. That is poker.

Now, I have spoken with quite a few good PLO players at various limits from 0.5-1 pros to nosebleeds and looked at various styles and stats. I'm still at the learning stage (obviously) but from what I know, unless you are a VERY competent player and your tables are passive, your stats are slightly too loose. The top winning, agg players have your stats...BoobieSmiles for example on Stars had agg stats like that, but not sure if he was able to maintain it. I think nowadays for normal games 35/30 is prob the top end you want to be...and that is still very agg.

Generally you don't want to be calling too much unless you are much deeper ofc. You want to be controlling pots and taking them down w/o showdowns. Thats how you decrease variance and increase winrate w/o SD.

Your 3b @ 13% seems high but fine as long as most of it is from button and in the blinds v late position steals.

So, overall, everything seems good and your bit of variance over 700 hands is nothing. I've been reading up on it and some people have had up to 200 buyin swings.

I am currently going through the grossest swing I've ever had (primarily because NLHE doesn't have swings like this, especially if you are a competent agg player) and its been well over 100k hands. A lot of this is inexperience on my behalf and bad plays too.

Will be interesting to see how the next few hundred thousand hands turn out. If I haven't gone potty that is.

Hope that answers your questions. Anything else, just give me a shout.

Gl all,
Report KunkuWap June 6, 2012 8:34 PM BST
Excuse the horrible English, it was whilst playing 2 mtts, skype, fb and rosetta stone on the side!
Report Bruce Willis June 6, 2012 8:39 PM BST
Thanks, that's just fine.
Report marsbar_76 June 6, 2012 8:57 PM BST
Hey John, do you have the power to get my chat ban removed??
Lifetime ban is pretty excessive i think....
Report KunkuWap June 7, 2012 4:00 PM BST
What was your chat ban for?
Report MrFancyPant June 13, 2012 8:10 PM BST
no show tonight?
Report chipfire227 June 13, 2012 9:19 PM BST
16 runners...LOL.
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