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Was going well in the 100 rebuy on *s and was in for 300$.
This is 2 off the button and my thought process is explained below.
Do people think i misplayed this? I am obviously working on mindest of final table than limp into cash but not sure what ICM would say here? In hindsight I am thinking should have check / folded as 800$ not to be snuffed at and difference between 9th and 54th is set out below.
if impacts calculations then prizes were as below and at time of hand there was 56 or 57 left.
1st is 31K$
9th (where I would be if won that hand) is 3k$
and 54th is 820$
Anyway my though process - when he flats I put him on a big hand 1010-QQ and AQ I think he raises with his stack size AK AA and KK. Hence flop is good for majority of his hands. I figure on flop if I bet he will flat with all his range bar AQ, and that my hand is then in trouble in a large pot if blank comes turn. By check raising i figured i probably get a bluff bet from AQ, and may well fold out 1010-QQ with check raise as I think it looks really strong, my stats for this tourney alone were pretty tight especially c/r % but he instant snapped so read that wrong.
Hand info:
PokerStars Game #38267230174: Tournament #262010506, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2010/01/16 22:37:38 WET [2010/01/16 17:37:38 ET]
Table '262010506 37' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: trytobustme (78793 in *****
Seat 2: SENORSEXY (57201 in *****
Seat 3: 520988 (29738 in *****
Seat 4: tRaMp$d0PrAy (36328 in *****
Seat 5: uncledrkmeat (62878 in *****
Seat 7: paulgees81 (50245 in *****
Seat 8: icujoke (24830 in *****
Seat 9: benaston (55768 in *****
trytobustme: posts the ante 125
SENORSEXY: posts the ante 125
520988: posts the ante 125
tRaMp$d0PrAy: posts the ante 125
uncledrkmeat: posts the ante 125
paulgees81: posts the ante 125
icujoke: posts the ante 125
benaston: posts the ante 125
benaston: posts small blind 600
trytobustme: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 520988 [Ad Kd]
SENORSEXY: folds
520988: raises 2000 to 3200
tRaMp$d0PrAy: calls 3200
uncledrkmeat: folds
paulgees81: folds
icujoke: folds
benaston: folds
trytobustme: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 8d 9d]
520988: checks
tRaMp$d0PrAy: bets 4250
520988: raises 22163 to 26413 and is all-in
tRaMp$d0PrAy: calls 22163
*** TURN *** [4s 8d 9d] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [4s 8d 9d 3s] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
520988: shows [Ad Kd] (high card Ace)
tRaMp$d0PrAy: shows [Qd Qh] (a pair of Queens)
tRaMp$d0PrAy collected 62026 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
This is 2 off the button and my thought process is explained below.
Do people think i misplayed this? I am obviously working on mindest of final table than limp into cash but not sure what ICM would say here? In hindsight I am thinking should have check / folded as 800$ not to be snuffed at and difference between 9th and 54th is set out below.
if impacts calculations then prizes were as below and at time of hand there was 56 or 57 left.
1st is 31K$
9th (where I would be if won that hand) is 3k$
and 54th is 820$
Anyway my though process - when he flats I put him on a big hand 1010-QQ and AQ I think he raises with his stack size AK AA and KK. Hence flop is good for majority of his hands. I figure on flop if I bet he will flat with all his range bar AQ, and that my hand is then in trouble in a large pot if blank comes turn. By check raising i figured i probably get a bluff bet from AQ, and may well fold out 1010-QQ with check raise as I think it looks really strong, my stats for this tourney alone were pretty tight especially c/r % but he instant snapped so read that wrong.
Hand info:
PokerStars Game #38267230174: Tournament #262010506, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2010/01/16 22:37:38 WET [2010/01/16 17:37:38 ET]
Table '262010506 37' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: trytobustme (78793 in *****
Seat 2: SENORSEXY (57201 in *****
Seat 3: 520988 (29738 in *****
Seat 4: tRaMp$d0PrAy (36328 in *****
Seat 5: uncledrkmeat (62878 in *****
Seat 7: paulgees81 (50245 in *****
Seat 8: icujoke (24830 in *****
Seat 9: benaston (55768 in *****
trytobustme: posts the ante 125
SENORSEXY: posts the ante 125
520988: posts the ante 125
tRaMp$d0PrAy: posts the ante 125
uncledrkmeat: posts the ante 125
paulgees81: posts the ante 125
icujoke: posts the ante 125
benaston: posts the ante 125
benaston: posts small blind 600
trytobustme: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 520988 [Ad Kd]
SENORSEXY: folds
520988: raises 2000 to 3200
tRaMp$d0PrAy: calls 3200
uncledrkmeat: folds
paulgees81: folds
icujoke: folds
benaston: folds
trytobustme: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 8d 9d]
520988: checks
tRaMp$d0PrAy: bets 4250
520988: raises 22163 to 26413 and is all-in
tRaMp$d0PrAy: calls 22163
*** TURN *** [4s 8d 9d] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [4s 8d 9d 3s] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
520988: shows [Ad Kd] (high card Ace)
tRaMp$d0PrAy: shows [Qd Qh] (a pair of Queens)
tRaMp$d0PrAy collected 62026 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
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I should add if flop went check check then my intention was to check again unless hit AK or flush.
Do you think the pre flop bet was too small to represent a monster by check raising?
I think raise size is pretty standard and i raise to that with AA or 78 if play them in the hand. I dont want to define my hand by raise size hence tend to try and keep this equalish between 2.5 and 3 BB with big hands and cack.
Not sure if this is what you mean or whether you think i should say raise 2-3* his bet on flop which in effect puts me all in?
Not sure if this is what you mean or whether you think i should say raise 2-3* his bet on flop which in effect puts me all in?
Well, the way a lot play a smaller bet represents a weaker hand. I think in his postion I'm likely calling there also. I can see your thought process, but checking the flop could mean you've missed it, the all in could be overpair, but decent chance of flush draw or missed AK etc also so he has to call imo.
I don't think it matters much how it was played. Neither player is folding that flop. I would just bet and call.
Note - Only read HH and not the post.
Note - Only read HH and not the post.
*overpair = higher pair than his, not just higher than the board.
Suddes.
I think you're over thinking this hand mate. The whole hand is pretty standard as played. You are a favourite on that flop against Queens Jacks and Tens, which was the read that you correctly had, and only in bad but not terrible shape against Aces. And as you have AK then this limits the chances of him having Aces or Kings.
This is a good spot for you to double up, you need to win these races, but that flop means you're never getting away from it once he bets.
UL mate.
:)
I think you're over thinking this hand mate. The whole hand is pretty standard as played. You are a favourite on that flop against Queens Jacks and Tens, which was the read that you correctly had, and only in bad but not terrible shape against Aces. And as you have AK then this limits the chances of him having Aces or Kings.
This is a good spot for you to double up, you need to win these races, but that flop means you're never getting away from it once he bets.
UL mate.
:)
cheers JPJ and indeed was slight fav.
Guess when have not had a result for a while you over analyse.
Guess when have not had a result for a while you over analyse.
Although JPJ any thing further to think about when gap between 54th and 9th is so narrow? or the top prizes make this a must play for stacks hand?
You simply have to stick your *****in here with 2 overs and the flush draw. Out of interest why do you raise between 2.5 and 3bb? I have been lowering my raising amounts as a mtt goes on. For example in this case I would've probably raised to something like 2975
big antes you get called with that size more frequent, fine if your good post flop.
hence why i made comment !!!
You should prob make it slighly more
You should prob make it slighly more
The money would play no part in my decision at 'this' stage mate.
as an experienced player how is this even a thread!!! mtts= u play to WIN! obv in any format of the game anything 100bb and under is a no brainer get it all in!
and becton i wud make it 6bb preflop cause u cant play postflop HTH ;)
spackers fair enough.
About 9 months ago in same tourney i folded AK on final table to a reraise and got similar fedback.
About 9 months ago in same tourney i folded AK on final table to a reraise and got similar fedback.
seems pretty standard to me - i fold ur hand in that situation 0% of the time
Looks like you became pot-committed too soon soap - a novice error imho.
Come on soapy dont ever worry about getting it in on the flop with the nuts :) You dont need me to tell you not to think results orientated ;)
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