o/t (nearly) new car....

Both good cars but I would agree the Civic looks better.

thinly veiled im rich im buying a new car thread

^^^ Do not buy one off him! ^^^

:-)

^^^ do not give Helm Folds and credit for sound judgement

type supposed to be "any credit"

we buy any car, we buy any car

which civic?

I'm a used car dealer in Bournemouth.

Check out www.a1-autocentre.co.uk

Please mention Betfair when calling for a discount.

hi :)

was thinking of the 1.8 ES tbh, maybe a couple of years old. seen a couple locally at around £11k or so.

thanks Englishman - I'll have a look at your site now. :)

sorry - 1.8 EX

I deal more in Top Marques - Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porsche etc.

If you would like us to source you a Civic please email me your requirements.

sales@a1-autocentre.co.uk

thanks

Scott

cheers scott. b/mouth long way to go for me so I'll save you the hassle.

thanks anyway and best wishes :)

Never take motoring advice from a man that cannot park a supermini. HF you can step down now ;-)


Dibble, I shall post something which may help shortly.

http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/search_results.html?apc=3128339010848601

http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/choose_user_reviews.html?mancode=HO&car_range=Civic



The Auris seems to be too new to compare HU. The overall manufacturer HU is as follows.

http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?searchtype=relindex&apc=3128339010848601


Whatcar.co.uk website does a reasonable summary of each model. If the Auris is a remake of a previous model it may be worth looking at that, but it could be almost all new design, whatcar may guide you.

Lastly,

http://www.auctionview.co.uk/source/AV/login.asp

the basic subscription is around £12, which is enough to source a single specific car. As long as you don't live in the back of beyond and have access to one or two sites within a shortish drive then they can work out well. Also if you find a car on the auciton view, do ring up and ask lots of questions before going to view/buy. The day before sale they can also tell you approximately what time, (within an hour) it will run through the block. You ought to be picking up from here at £1500 or so less than the dealer price without trying too hard. Remember that 80%+ of the cars you are looking at were under this same hammer a month or so ago.

Good luck.

PS - Honda has been top of these reliability listings for many years, and Toyota have been regularly in the good but not excellent bracket. It is most likely that the newer models will conform to this precedent imo.

thanks Jim - much appreciated :)

great - that swings the civic's way 'cos reliabilty is right at the top of my wish-list.

11k for a 2 yr old 1.8 civic ??? u sure thats right? u can get a type R for about that price!!

get a type R man, what are you, a bloody 70 year old blue rinse pensioner?? :D

He is 59 actually, but leave his blue rinse out of it. It took a long time to get that look perfected.

links please mavis :)

ok well I found one type-r near here on a 56 plate for 11k... it has done 50k miles tho lol.

dibble 30 Dec 15:18


cheers scott. b/mouth long way to go for me so I'll save you the hassle.

.......................

I'll deliver it for you mate ;)

I have had three toyotas in the past and one was way less reliable than the reputation suggested it should have been. Both Toyotas and Hondas seem expensive for what they are these days. The Auris seemed particularly expensive to me, and they don't depreciate nearly enough to make them a bargain second hand either.

I have been looking at new/nearly new cars a lot recently and don't think you can go far wrong with Fords these days. They are pretty much as reliable as any other European car and the fiesta, focus and mondeos are pretty much top in class in every big survey I see these days (well your average BMW 3 series is probably better than your average mondeo, but probably not £10k better). I think you could get a one year old Mondeo in your price range and it will be newer and you get way more car than you would with a 2 year old Auris/Civic.

Up to you though.

I agree with a lot of that. I came to the conclusion that the best value is to either buy a top marque, (that you like a lot), that does not depreciate much, and keep it a little longer, (say 4 years), or the other end, and get a slightly older Ford and run it like a workhorse til it is worthless. anything in between seems poor value imo.

I currently pay around £1000 extra per year in total motoring cost, (that is everything from repairs, depreciation, fuel, tax, insurance etc), and drive a nice (ish) top marque, than when I run a Corsa into the ground. The Corsa was value motoring and some. Its last months were more or less a builders van lol. The in between range appears cheaper until you factor in depreciation, and in my experience you change them more often too.

On another note, the best customer service I have ever known from a dealer was from Honda. Not stupidly expensive, and good attention to detail and fair and reasonable when there is an issue. This opinion is widely held too.

I do agree that the fords are good cars and decent value - no doubt. thing is, my current one is a ford and is causing me all sorts so just think it's time for a change.

the focus is a great car. I have one right now and it won't start lol so it's hard to buy another... irrespective of the fact that it'll be a great car and great value... I guess we're all coloured by our experiences eh?

thanks for your thoughts tho.

regards
dibs

What about an Audi A3 / A4? They're not bad, from what I've heard anyway lol. I only have a poxy Astra :(

I've done that with this car Jim - 108k miles on it and if I could get it to start reliably or the local bodgit-and-scarper garage could find the problem I'd keep it.

but they can't so it has to go.

honda I think is the favourite at the mo.

the Audi A3 is a great car it's just daft expensive. makes the golf look like good value...

u'd better not get a 1.8 for 11k dibble, else i will be seething. get a type R and you'll have naked wimmins hanging out of the doors imvho.

:D

lol - I'm not paying 11k for a three yr old 50k wreck!

Aye, them Honda Civics are nice, I might get one myself next time around. Though you should get the Type R so we could have some fun :)

Yeah the reliability issue is twofold. how much to repair and the hassle of being off the road. I have always had access to a second car so a breakdown is just a money issue. If it disrupts too much then the Honda is probably the way to go.

Good time to be buying though too. haggle hard.

Here's a Civic nearish me (and Jim). Get it bought and one of us will drive it down there to you. Slowly of course ;)

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/HONDA+CIVIC/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-38-54-111-141-148-240-4294966697-4294966904/advert.action?R=200939342247183&distance=24&postcode=sk5+6pq&channel=CARS&make=HONDA&model=CIVIC&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=10000&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2009&vehicleRegLetter=58

lol, I am up that way tomorrow visiting my sister, who recently bought a car from Dace near you, which I collected and delivered. Maybe it is my new calling lol.

For what its worth i have a 57 plate Civic Type S CDTi diesel and its ok

45mpg (55 when the wife drives it), goes ok and has plenty of kit

However if definatly looks a better car than it acctually is, my previous cars were lexus (toyota) IS200 and Volkswagen Passat TDi and the honda cant hold a light to either

J3

right well, having driven the civic this morning I can happily say it's a completely underwhelming car.

the civic body has restricted view out of the back, a low driving position, big blind spots, the 1.8 is underpowered and the handling stodgy at best. couple that with the fact that the dealer wanted £12k for a 2 year old model and we did not do business.

so off to the toyota garage to try the 1.6 Auris then... only they'd just sold the one on the website but would get one in for me to look at next weekend.

right that's that for now. if the auris is similarly unimpressive then it'll be off the the mazda dealer for a look at the new mazda 3 and then (shudder) things like the new Focus come into the game.

thanks again for all thoughts.
dibs

buy a ford

read the thread mandypoo :D

dibble 30 Dec 22:28
I do agree that the fords are good cars and decent value - no doubt. thing is, my current one is a ford and is causing me all sorts so just think it's time for a change.

Dig deep..........get an Aston Martin.........

And be prepared to dig deep regularly, every time it needs servicing

of course it's underwhelming it's a 1 point bleeding 8! Latest mod cons = more weight = bigger engine needed

get sommat with a bit more poke (NAP)

gl

ty :D

the specs for the 1.8 claim 0-60 in under 9s... they must've thrashed the fck out of it lol

exactly

and that will be a bare bones model, with no extras added

remember how much all the extras weigh (electric kits etc)

and using super fuel

i dunno why u dont go for a 3-5 yr old much better car for the same price tbh. will depreciate less, last longer, and drive much better!

happy new yr sir i am off. gl

Take a look at a slightly older C class coupe or a lexus is200 imo.

The IS200 is a great car but the economy is poo 22mpg avg

The passat is pound for pound the best car i have ever owned

1.9 TDi 130 Sport great value used

j3

must admit im a bit dyed in the wool with cars , its been ford for the last 20 plus years and all latest ones havent been any problem at all

now the passat is a great car. I will have a look at that when I'm out next week looking again. thanks for the suggestion. just did a quick squint at the local dealer's site and there's a 2008 1.9 diesel for £13k which is just about affordable...

good call sir.

Like the Passatts. Think 13k for an 08 is a bit much, though there's always haggling to be done. There's an 08 1.9 diesel with 35k miles on Autotrader for £9.7k. Though looking through them, the next cheapest 08 plate is £11k. But plenty for less than £12k.

buy private/at auction, dealers massive premiums not worth it for the crap warranties u may get imo.

not fcking about at an auction so that's not an option and I'm certainly not spending £12k or so with some private joe. so dealers or other trade. I'll start with the dealer and go from there - if I can't get a deal I'm content with am perfectly happy to walk away.

and yes kirk, there's a premium to be paid for simplicity rather than hack about in the autotrader I just mosey up to the local vw garage.

that costs me money I know. but so does getting someone to do the cleaning when I could do it myself. and so does getting in a plumber when I could do that too...

aaaaanyyway. that's tomorrow's problem. :)

Lol. Umm, would it really be worth spending an extra £2k to buy a car from the local dealer rather than looking at nearish traders/dealers advertising on autotrader and travelling an extra 20 miles? Surely not? lol. Gl whatever you get anyway, post it up here :)

You don't want me delivering then? ;)

hi jpj :) not really lol - i'd rather see it first !!

ty anyway tho :)

20 miles is a long walk kirk :D

All Passats I come across on the motorway are drven by complete mentalists (FACT). I read somewhere that because they all wanted BMWs and Mercedes, then only having an option of a Passat on their company car lists was enough to put them over the edge. That strikes me as almost the truth too.

Where as Golfs seem to have perfectly fine drivers.

As an aside what did the people dawdling in the middle lane do, before they had a satnav to stare at. And if I got a satnav, would I be forced to spend my future years in the middle lane at 65?

1. buy a volvo
2. wear a floppy hat while driving it

result = lots of space around you on the road ;)

Sat Navs tell you which lane to take......

Also tell you about all the speed cameras.......light jump cameras ......saved myself hundreds in the last year.......they pay for themselves.....

Last light jump was 3 points and £285 and 2 hours messing with paperwork....

Do they really tell you to sit in the middle lane? .

No......give you lane advice....when coming to a junction.......assuming you are not fishing....

Back of the net Doobs :^0

Go to volkswagen.co.uk, you can search on everything they have in the UK, by price. They have non-dealer stock which can be sent to any of the dealerships.

ok thanks all. finally found one I liked and ended up with the 1.9 tdi golf. the passat they were selling at £13k was terrific. had the 2.0 140hp job and is very lively but the garage refused to do any sort of deal on it saying "it's priced to go". lol is it fck.

anyway, ended up with a deal i was happy with on the golf so that's all ok. get it next w/e and am happy enough with it all :)

cheers and beers for all views.
dibs

what plate, mileage and price?

at bit late for that now lol - it's already sorted so please forgive me if I don't post such details for risk of opening a "you've paid too much for that rubbish" debate.

I'm happy with the deal and the car. :)

just going to look at some golfs myself, so was looking to compare, sorry.

Dibble takes the head in sand position....

nah - just no point is there?

all that willl happen is either:
(a) general consensus is good deal. Result - no change
(b) general consensus is bad deal. Result - i feel worse cos I got a bad deal.

so best result if I say the exact details are that I have no change.... hardly head in sand is it?

Sounds like a bad deal to me mate....... ;-)

Should've gone for the new Lexus imo

shouldve gone to specsavers.....

where is honestbob when u need him

toyota