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I was reading this on 2+2 and found it alarming,iam sure a streem of jokes will follow , but losing the french on ipoker would not be funny.It may make holidays to greece profitable and a stream of duel citizenship applications could insue.
To just play brits wouldnt be the worst thing, i find on the whole were far less likerly to educate ourselfs than say the americans , so not playing the yanks is little loss in sngs but a big loss in mtts as deep fields would just not happen.From the links below it seems were well on the way to this senario.

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There are x threads a week who fear the end of online poker because of though games or bots.

The real danger stems from protectionism. My fear is that in the near future there will only be state monopolies. This means: the end of international online poker as known today. It was a short but exciting era. National networks are already the case or discussed in a couple of countries and a lot will follow.

- In Italy, Pokerstars players can only play against Italian players: http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/italia...-version-3634/

- For France iPoker (Playtech) plans to implement a french only network: http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/indu...zer-says.thtml

- Switzerland has similar plans: http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/indu...e-gaming.thtml

- State monopolies have now the official support from the EU: http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/indu...nst-bwin.thtml

- I would not be surprised if the US - if they finally are legalizing online poker - would choose a similar route.


This development is not so bad for big coutries with big markets as the US or Germany, but terrible for smaller markets!

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canaryboy
When: 30 Dec 09 15:38
i feel for the pope
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canaryboy
When: 30 Dec 09 15:38
not in a catholic way of course...
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Dests
When: 30 Dec 09 15:41
I honestly would wave the french away with enthusiasm :)
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jamesbeckton.
When: 30 Dec 09 15:48
NO NO NO.
French players are good
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Dests
When: 30 Dec 09 15:53
Too many on ipoker, reason I'm not playing much anymore, you easily bat a few of them away but another army of the french lunatics turn up and one of them is going to get you :(
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jamesbeckton.
When: 30 Dec 09 16:04
no i run good
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canaryboy
When: 30 Dec 09 16:21
haven't had a bad beat on there all xmas
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R0ykeane
When: 30 Dec 09 16:44
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:50 PM #61
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
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- State monopolies have now the official support from the EU: http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/indu...nst-bwin.thtml
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Switzerland is a member of the European Free Trade Association (EFTA). It took part in negotiating the European Economic Area agreement with the European Union. It signed the agreement on 2 May 1992, and submitted an application for accession to the EU on 20 May 1992. However, a Swiss referendum held on 6 December 1992 rejected EEA membership. As a consequence, the Swiss government decided to suspend negotiations for EU accession until further notice. Its application remains open.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:49 PM #62
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
I'll give you a choice:

(1) It's illegal to play online poker *at all*
(2) It's legal to play certain types of poker but only against players in your country / state.

OP seems to be saying that moving from situation (1), or a state of quasi-illegality, to (2) is a bad thing. I'd say rather that it's a step in the right direction that will probably eventually lead to widespread, international legal play as countries and states harmonize their laws, make agreements, etc.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:55 PM #63
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
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I'll give you a choice:

(1) It's illegal to play online poker *at all*
(2) It's legal to play certain types of poker but only against players in your country / state.

OP seems to be saying that moving from situation (1), or a state of quasi-illegality, to (2) is a bad thing. I'd say rather that it's a step in the right direction that will probably eventually lead to widespread, international legal play as countries and states harmonize their laws, make agreements, etc.
It could also turn that way, let's hope the best!
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:09 PM #64
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
OK maybe I am dumb but why can't you just have a friend with an account in a different country and log in to his computer remotely? Too much lag?
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:17 PM #65
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
takes 5 mins to install a VPN, I grind Party in the US all the time

Since none of this can be enforced its just a bunch of empty hyperbole.. little commie protectionists and make up all the laws they want in their fancy little parliaments but no way to enforce = mucho legistlation good for toilet paper
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:19 PM #66
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
How do you cashout?
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Old 09-09-2009, 11:01 PM #67
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
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takes 5 mins to install a VPN, I grind Party in the US all the time

Since none of this can be enforced its just a bunch of empty hyperbole.. little commie protectionists and make up all the laws they want in their fancy little parliaments but no way to enforce = mucho legistlation good for toilet paper
any link on how to setup a VPN?
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:25 AM #68
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Re: View: the end of international online poker
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takes 5 mins to install a VPN, I grind Party in the US all the time

Since none of this can be enforced its just a bunch of empty hyperbole.. little commie protectionists and make up all the laws they want in their fancy little parliaments but no way to enforce = mucho legistlation good for toilet paper
I understand that good players will often find ways around it, but what concerns me more is that Average Joe won't go through such hassle and instead donates money to some other cause.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:49 AM #69
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www.whiteflagpoker.fr

Client auto-folds to any raise.
Soon to be taken over by Intellipoker and then, in turn, by Stars.
Solid.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:35 AM #70
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- Switzerland has similar plans: http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/indu...e-gaming.thtml
i wrote an email to the attorney mentioned in the article; he said that althogh he's no prophet he's willing to wager large sums of money that gambling on foreign sites will never be illegal in switzerland.

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FFsmd
When: 30 Dec 09 17:11
Many euro poker sites have banners saying no usa players allowed, so although their are ways round these things if you really want to find a way.The usa have been fairly effective in banning their players from playing euro sites while in the usa.So iam sure this would have some impact on the freedom of euro players to play each other on the sites they presently do.Euro law is obv diff from the usa , but in euro law nearly every country has opt in opt out clauses.This may be used to keep their players playing only on their sites.
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Peter Parkers brother
When: 31 Dec 09 11:23
Quantum strategies, that's the future.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227081.300-quantum-poker-are-the-*****down-or-not.html?full=true
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FFsmd
When: 31 Dec 09 12:23
Sort of interesting , i say sort of because i can honestly say i dont completly understand it.But from what i gethered it seems like a bot,which i assume will not be allowed.Many in play calculators are banned on most sites,as its our computor optimizing our play then its an aid which will not be allowed.
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BlufDaddy
When: 31 Dec 09 15:28
Quantum strategies would only apply on a quantum internet of connected quantum computers playing a quantum version of poker so don't worry your pretty little heads about it.

I could explain it but since this forum is made up of people asking poker players what car they should buy (they are related how?), mooching for cash and how to play AA preflop I doubt anyone would understand it.
By:
jbarnes (no not him)
When: 31 Dec 09 16:01
happy new year to u to bluff

happy as ever
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Jim Hensen
When: 31 Dec 09 16:16
lol. I recall the masses of high quality poker content posted by yourself Bluf. In between the idle threats, brags, boasts, whinges, inane stories of drugs strippers and how your Brighton Gazzettes answer to John Paul Getty, Charles Wells & Pete Doherty combined.

Happy new year, its always a pleasure and never a chore ;-)
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BlufDaddy
When: 31 Dec 09 16:25
Glad to know I made an impact. Can't say I remember a single post of yours tho.

Why not make your next post more memorable and explain quantum poker?
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Jim Hensen
When: 31 Dec 09 16:35
I must admit I find it quite easy not to respond to "how can he call" threads from someone whose range is as wide as the grand canyon. Even after the millionth time of asking. But it was nice of you to have a go at posting about poker I suppose.

Do you want to discuss Quantum strategies, or just nitpick to try and make yourself look clever, whilst not really contributing? We know the answer, so save yourself the bother and go out and try to be nice to people!


Happy new year.
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BlufDaddy
When: 31 Dec 09 16:41
I'll take that as a 'no' then.

Don't worry if you can't understand it. Some people just weren't meant to understand anything more complex than how to get food in their mouth.

Anyway, I'm off out. Happy New Year to you too.
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Helmuthian Folds
When: 31 Dec 09 16:49
BlufDaddy 31 Dec 16:28

Quantum strategies would only apply on a quantum internet of connected quantum computers playing a quantum version of poker so don't worry your pretty little heads about it.

I could explain it but since this forum is made up of people asking poker players what car they should buy (they are related how?), mooching for cash and how to play AA preflop I doubt anyone would understand it.


Very late entry for post of the year IMHO! :D
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Peter Parkers brother
When: 31 Dec 09 19:07
I could go and pull Cheryl Cole but I can't be ar5ed... Is anybody interested in knowing that?
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The Leopard
When: 01 Jan 10 17:17
tt
By:
fedddddddd uppppppppp
When: 01 Jan 10 17:31
the only thing quantum about Bluff daddy is the size of his fkin baldy scotch head...

:)
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FFsmd
When: 01 Jan 10 17:40
would it not be bald,hairy,big and small all at the same time.
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Twaddles
When: 01 Jan 10 17:41
Peter Parkers brother 31 Dec 20:07


I could go and pull Cheryl Cole but I can't be ar5ed... Is anybody interested in knowing that?



....if you do, me and you will be having words, pal, as she's supposed to be waiting for me - the whole 'marriage' thing is a sham, trust me.
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BlufDaddy
When: 01 Jan 10 18:57
My brains too big for my head to exist at the quantum scale.
By:
"M"
When: 01 Jan 10 22:11
I'm sure that particular problem could be resolved by removing your head from your ar$e-hole once in a while.
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FFsmd
When: 01 Jan 10 22:20
Mayb he likes the view
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BlufDaddy
When: 01 Jan 10 22:31
"M" 01 Jan 23:11

I'm sure that particular problem could be resolved by removing your head from your ar$e-hole once in a while.


How would that decrease the size of my brain?

With logic like that, I think I now understand why you're too stupid to understand basic quantum mechanics that a schoolkid should be able to comprehend.
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"M"
When: 01 Jan 10 23:07
In case you had not noticed, the comment was a dig at your ego, not a real attempt at discussing quantum mechanics.
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BlufDaddy
When: 01 Jan 10 23:11
Clearly, since such a discussion is beyond the capabilities of your feeble mind.
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