I know taylor is awesome at darts but...O/T

what price is fed to win first round at wimbledon? similar type of matchup. monk can average 70 in games. that would make taylor value at 1.01 imo

Back, I have layed taylor at 1.02, 1.03 hundreds of times and I'm down on him, defo back! The best darts player you will ever see.

He should be 1.001, value at 1.01

as joffy said to me, what if monk is so bad he throws a dart into phil taylors eye and has to retire injured?

Or is taylor good enough to beat him with one eye?

what idiiot would bet 1/100, 60.0 much better price;-)

Nova you can have 65.0 with me

surely 2 eyes only benefits in game that require judge of distance, your always throwing from the same spot so range does not come into it.

Colin Monk 55 £55.00 £3,025.00 £2,970.00
Ref: Bet matched:
£55.00

prefer to lay 54/1. i will officially retire from the forum if taylor gets beat here.

i have taken the 99/1 silly

where did those commas come from please?

Pmsl Taylor beats people in semi 13-4 this is 1st round, monk ok he can have his day but against taylor, monk on is best ever day would still only get to within 4 legs of Taylor imo.

No way would I EVER take that price in a first to 3 contest.

"monk on is best ever day would still only get to within 4 legs of Taylor imo"

Eh? It's a best of 5 sets, first to 3, that doesn't make sense?

Example was semi!!!! ffs do you have to explain everything on here, back monk then easy cash yeah!

Put your bet up and we can cheer you on.

you get a semi over darts?

chop180 18 Dec 20:24


No way would I EVER take that price in a first to 3 contest.

MUG.

Just checked, layed Taylor 174 times at 1.14 or below and I'm losing!

My conclusion is simple 1.01 is value

Monk is like a fish a out of water

I have LUMPED my WHOLE bank on this.

Lay Backer's
Odds Backer's
Stake Your
Liability Your
Payout
Phil Taylor 1.02 £2.00 £2.04 £0.04

COME ON COLIN "MONK" (what kind of name is that ffs)

1/50 taylor is value. hard to back but if they played 100 times monk wouldnt win twice. thats the bottom line.

nah monk can win this on a taylor off day, taylor must have off days more than 1 in 100?

Where did I say I'd placed a bet on the game?

(I haven't btw)

Just saying I'd never back 1.01 in a first to 3 contest. Neither would anyone else with any sense.

arbboy 18 Dec 20:44


1/50 taylor is value. hard to back but if they played 100 times monk wouldnt win twice. thats the bottom line.

Who says Arbboy talks S h it, they don't know what they talkin about.

chop180 18 Dec 20:46


Where did I say I'd placed a bet on the game?

(I haven't btw)

Just saying I'd never back 1.01 in a first to 3 contest. Neither would anyone else with any sense

Would u lay it, if not what's the point of the post?

chop if arbboy played taylor in the first round would u back him at 1.01? what a stupid thing to say u would never back a best of 5 match at 1.01!!!!

I would lay 1.01, yes, if it was available, unfortunately there is the small matter of 129k in front of me in the way :D

arbboy 18 Dec 20:50
chop if arbboy played taylor in the first round would u back him at 1.01?

I'd be a massive layer. That pink jacket could put anyone's throw off. He'd be dazed by the second leg.

Nova Sicko 18 Dec 20:45


nah monk can win this on a taylor off day, taylor must have off days more than 1 in 100?

Been trying to get him for 8 years, thought i had him 2 years ago and he came back with new darts and better than ever (****), he even throws darts on xmas day!
Now not talkin from my pocket, true legend, 1 in a million and how the fook he not won sports person of the year!!!!!!!!

Every player can have an off day. If arbboy played Taylor (it would never happen but IF), you could say that presumably arbboy might be half decent at darts, even then I'd say that 1.01 in a first to 3 contest would not be particularly good value, no.

monk was almost 1.5 to win any leg earlier today

fair enough. glad there are people around who just refuse to do anything other than lay a 1.01/1.02 whatever the gluf in class. i always wondered who these guys were chop is obv one of them

Chop, yes any player can have a off day but try layin them, I layed sea the stars every race he run after the derby, HE DIDN'T HAVE A OFF DAY. OUCH

Eh, are you on drugs? I don't lay every 1.01 or 1.02 you clown.

Would I lay 1.01 on Taylor in a first to 3 contest?

Yes, definitely. As do many others. (as can be seen by the 130k currently available)

THE worst person to lay at any price in any sport nap

Nonsense, when you consider monk could win a leg or even a set and his price would shoot out.

Arbboy - a famous UK sports better claims the best bet he ever made wit hSteven Hendry at 1-16 or 1-33 in round 1 world champ snooker so you may have a point.

Is round 1 in the snooker a first to 3 event?

Invalid comparison.

stephen hendry to beat dingjunweeeeshineman at 11/4 when 6-2 up of somthing like that was the best bet ever

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chop180 18 Dec 21:03
Nonsense, when you consider monk could win a leg or even a set and his price would shoot out.

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this kind of logic hasnt been profitable were taylor is concernced for years

chop each set is 1st to 3 and common format for all darts tournamants - in fact many are less

and to win he has to break Taylor a minimum of 3 times

its actually the correct point. unless u can routinely do 12 dart legs (which u have to do to stand any chance of breeaking taylor) then u simply cant beat him. darts is a funny game where u either get 9 12 15 or 18 etc etc darts per leg. u never get 13 or 14. therefore as taylor very rarely has 15 dart legs because his scoring is in excess of 100 per throw its virtually impossible to beat taylor if u cant average at least 95. even then u would need virtually 100% double success to beat him when taylor averages 100 and the other guy averages 85 taylor is obv 160 ahead of him on a double on his throw and level on their throw. snooker is a totally diff game and much more of a leveller as once one player is at the table in a frame the frame is totally out of their hands. not so in darts

Yes each set is first to 3, the point being if you start badly you can easily find yourself 1-0 down, and in a first to 3 set event that can cause problems even for the best the player ever. That can't be said if Ronnie O'Sullivan goes 1-0 down in the first round of the snooker.

Well im sure yr all right but Ive backed the Monk.

Do darts players ever retire injured ?

you have a free £2, you can either put it on taylor at 1.01 or have a euromillions ticket.

which is the better bet?

rarely has in excess of 15 dart legs. it should have read.

plenty who will have piled on at 1.01 thats for sur

its easy to see how finley has made fortunes in spots like this with a huge betting bank to roll with

"plenty who will have piled on at 1.01 thats for sur"

Funny how only 6k has been traded at that price, isn't it? Despite well over 100k being available.....

I can't understand why if you had a large amount of money you would bet 1/100 shouts.

more shrewed investments? can't get a kick out of it as a bet either?

if u think a 1/50 shot should be shorter than 1/200 why wouldnt u back it? i dont understand. i assume u would back a 9/2 shot which u make 7/2 so whats the diff?

will this match be on telly?

why is the volume matched going up on taylor when you can lay at 65 rather than back at 1/100

Im a darts stato now they have played three times and its 3-0 to Taylor.

But this year Monk missed a double to go 5-2 up and got beat 6-4 that will do for me for a bit of value.

I'd say by far the best value is the 2/7 on Monk winning a leg.

it depens who throws first. if taylor throws first i think its a great lay

taylor can't throw first every leg^

yes but obviously if he throws first he only has to throw 4 times against the throw rather than 5 for the bet to cope. big diff surely even the biggest donk on here realises that?

so it could be 20%better value then?

Yep he just clarified it for us :D

Even if he only has 4 attempts (a pretty big if) I would still say it is value.

I think Taylor always gives them 1st throw when it goes to sudden death.

That last one that played who looked like an ugly lesbian nearly retired injured think im in here

I think I'd lay 2/7 seen him whitewash a lot better players than Monk in the premier league.

Fook hes looking his fattest thats for sure

price 100% better, pile in

joffy 18 Dec 22:14


Fook hes looking his fattest thats for sure

Sainsburys' did say they've got a shortage of mince pies!

This should be the leg.

Lenny forgot to tell you.

When i was in Oz my lass wanted to teach her how roulette works so put a few £2 bets on - of course on 13 and it lands 1st spin.

I probably backed it now 1111 times in row and time it comes in I have 2 bar on :D !!!

:D soap.

Never forget that epic roulette session. The night we met arbboy and he was moaning about 77 losing to AQ then won a grand from about 20 quid on roulette. What a chump

I even bought arbboy a beer and never recieved one back, or an offer, maybe those**payments weren't as big as normal

that wasnt Arbboy but he knew who he was ;)

He will be back in a bit bigging up his 1.01 shot. Think he tipped Federer on the Tennis forum to have a good season as well.

I can see why he is a sports trader and poker is just a side hobby now

Is Arbboy as nuts in R/L as he is on here?

yes totally delirious

good bet, wp backers

Glad I didn't back Monk to win a leg :| that is one crap player!

50k match on that market, not hard to take some out of that

joffy

i have no plan to shout my mouth off on here. i dont back 1/50 shots as standard but if i think they are value i will. the bottom line is monk is awful and wouldnt beat taylor 2in 100 games. hence i thought the price was value. gutted i didnt get involved in the whitewash bet. sounds like it copped but i didnt watch the match so i dont know for sure. did taylor throw first or not? only reason i can think they monk to win a leg was backed into 2/7 was that he was throwing first

Taylor always lets them throw 1st when there is no advantage to throwing first. I.E. when it goes to sudden death if it's a tie. I did say this earlier.

not read the thread but i reckon laying taylor in the 1st round of evbery tourney would be a gd idea! he seems to get a few shock defeats generally becuase its a much shorter race! and hes nearly always close to 1.01 for 1st round and he defo loses more thn 1 in 100 imo!

"spackers1 19 Dec 00:47
not read the thread but i reckon laying taylor in the 1st round of evbery tourney would be a gd idea! he seems to get a few shock defeats generally becuase its a much shorter race! and hes nearly always close to 1.01 for 1st round and he defo loses more thn 1 in 100 imo!"

evidence please?

he doesnt

Fair play Arbboy Monk was truly awful

I got him to win the entire tournament at 4/7.

Just before the Monk game, he was 1/3 to win the entire thing.

Quite pleased with myself.