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06 Dec 09 23:18
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It would be nice if just once tonight, you could let me win an all in after being massively ahead in the last sit n gos and mtts when the money went in and getting beat. setting someone up on bubble of d2n with AA against K8os and the flop comes K8Q, flopping two pair with Q9 on Q94 board against kk and before he even called i said "he has KK, i bet the turn is a 4". low and behold, the turn is a 4 and he has KK

AA v KK, AQ v 10 7os, 55 v 44, just once would be nice. youve got a fcked up schedule, at least try make the cards not**

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By:
hagler
When: 06 Dec 09 23:23
GO TO BED.
By:
hagler
When: 06 Dec 09 23:23
N O W .
By:
wingy123
When: 06 Dec 09 23:52
add ak v kj to that in latest mtt
By:
hagler
When: 07 Dec 09 00:24
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
By:
wingy123
When: 07 Dec 09 09:22
nice start to the morning cheers betfair:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616150378 *****
NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Monday, December 07, 10:20:32 GMT 2009
Table Sulfur 10 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of active players : 8
Seat 1: lineo ( $64.70 )
Seat 2: carlos ( $93.20 )
Seat 3: layingking ( $42.50 )
Seat 4: saccomano ( $261 )
Seat 5: h8tersgonh8 ( $257.70 )
Seat 6: MMichel ( $185.29 )
Seat 7: scotti30 ( $98 )
Seat 8: donkomat25 ( $200 )
Seat 9: erpumaa ( $84.70 )
h8tersgonh8 posts small blind [$1]
MMichel posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to layingking [ Kh, Kd ]
scotti30 folds
erpumaa folds
lineo folds
carlos raises to [$4]
layingking calls [$4]
saccomano folds
h8tersgonh8 folds
MMichel raises to [$27]
carlos folds
layingking goes all-in
layingking raises to [$42.50]
MMichel calls [$15.50]
** Showdown **
layingking shows [ Kh, Kd ]
MMichel shows [ Td, Tc ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Ac, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
** Hand Conclusion **
MMichel wins $87 from main pot with a straight, Ace to Ten
************ Game 616150378 ends ************
By:
Six of Clubs
When: 07 Dec 09 09:34
why are you sitting with just 20bb?
By:
wingy123
When: 07 Dec 09 09:37
lost a decent sized pot the hand before (wen ahead until river), first hand before i could reload
By:
wingy123
When: 07 Dec 09 09:45
yes had low *****but again in with best hand, next card, bang

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616157211 *****
NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Monday, December 07, 10:44:18 GMT 2009
Table Sulfur 12 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: yellow dog ( $103.08 )
Seat 3: fitz ( $101.04 )
Seat 4: FREEMASON V ( $90.80 )
Seat 5: h8tersgonh8 ( $115.73 )
Seat 6: layingking ( $40.53 )
Seat 7: saccomano ( $216.85 )
Seat 8: Icemaster90 ( $98 )
Icemaster90 posts small blind [$1]
FREEMASON V posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to layingking [ 6h, Kh ]
h8tersgonh8 folds
layingking calls [$2]
saccomano raises to [$9]
Icemaster90 folds
FREEMASON V folds
layingking calls [$7]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 8h, 8d ]
layingking checks
saccomano bets [$15.75]
layingking goes all-in
layingking raises to [$31.53]
saccomano calls [$15.78]
** Showdown **
layingking shows [ 6h, Kh ]
saccomano shows [ 9h, Tc ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
** Hand Conclusion **
saccomano wins $81.06 from main pot with two pair, Tens and Eights
************ Game 616157211 ends ************
By:
yessssssss
When: 07 Dec 09 09:47
Six of Clubs 07 Dec 10:34
why are you sitting with just 20bb?

Thinks its a bit more than 20bb soc... 21.25bb
By:
wingy123
When: 07 Dec 09 09:51
and i seem to have forgotten the rule that u have to sit down at a table with full buy in otherwise it wont let you win all ins
By:
wingy123
When: 07 Dec 09 09:52
maybe its the withdrawals i made, we all know u get a downswing after withdrawals getting beat by lesser hands
By:
wingy123
When: 07 Dec 09 10:00
or maybe its just coz betfair is corrupt i dont know:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616160378 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $22 Buy-in + $2.20 Entry Fee, Level:2 Blinds(15/30-(no ante)) - Monday, December 07, 10:59:05 GMT 2009
D2N Turbo NL Hold'em $24.20 #3598344
Table 1 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: layingking ( 880 )
Seat 2: guckchina ( 895 )
Seat 3: IRT1980 ( 1,040 )
Seat 4: LeoMessi ( 1,020 )
Seat 5: JLRDBR ( 1,000 )
Seat 6: turbid ( 1,165 )
Tourney Level:2 Blinds(15/30-(no ante))
layingking posts small blind [15]
guckchina posts big blind [30]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to layingking [ Kd, Ad ]
IRT1980 raises to [60]
LeoMessi folds
JLRDBR calls [60]
turbid folds
layingking goes all-in
layingking raises to [880]
guckchina folds
IRT1980 folds
JLRDBR calls [820]
** Showdown **
layingking shows [ Kd, Ad ]
JLRDBR shows [ Qs, Ks ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Qc, 6h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
** Hand Conclusion **
JLRDBR wins 1,850 from main pot with a pair of Queens
************ Game 616160378 ends ************
By:
Waheyyyy
When: 07 Dec 09 11:21
Shortstacker sc um :)
By:
wingy123
When: 07 Dec 09 12:17
whether i play full stack or short stack, or put any amount allowed onto a table, should that mean i get treated differently? no course not, so why does it seem that u get ya money in, albeit low and you get a call from a lesser hand, sometimes much lesser, and the bigger stack their few outs. and i know everyone has felt the withdrawal cause, it happens to everyone
By:
fedddddddd uppppppppp
When: 07 Dec 09 18:51
Its a fkin joke site m8...

Don't play on here much anymore, so cashed out ...then decided to play a few sats to EWS to see if anything had changed...

NOPE!

1st game: QQ vs K 10... k hits... USUAL ** E

2nd game: AK vs AQ... Q hits... USUAL ** E

3rd game: HU 1 seat

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616241231 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $5.50 Buy-in + $0.50 Entry Fee, Level:8 Blinds(200/400-25 ante) - Monday, December 07, 14:55:31 GMT 2009
HOT! 1 Seat Sat to Eyes Wide Shut #307334
Table 1 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of active players : 2
Seat 5: Catsseven ( 3,745 )
Seat 8: alaluna85 ( 8,255 )
Tourney Level:8 Blinds(200/400-25 ante)
Catsseven posts ante [25]
alaluna85 posts ante [25]
alaluna85 posts small blind [200]
Catsseven posts big blind [400]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Catsseven [ Kh, Ks ]
alaluna85 calls [200]
Catsseven raises to [937.50]
alaluna85 calls [537.50]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 7h, 3h ] USUAL SH ITE
Catsseven goes all-in
Catsseven bets [2,782.50]
alaluna85 calls [2,782.50]
** Showdown **
Catsseven shows [ Kh, Ks ]
alaluna85 shows [ 7d, 7s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
** Hand Conclusion **
alaluna85 wins 7,490 from main pot with three of a kind, Sevens
************ Game 616241231 ends ************

4th game: last 6... 2 seats

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616368791 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $5.50 Buy-in + $0.50 Entry Fee, Level:8 Blinds(200/400-25 ante) - Monday, December 07, 18:58:30 GMT 2009
HOT! 2 Seats Sat to Eyes Wide Shut #307388
Table 1 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 3: Marchino204 ( 2,467.50 )
Seat 4: rich1717 ( 10,713.50 )
Seat 5: Catsseven ( 2,500 )
Seat 6: mandrakeBR ( 1,818.75 )
Seat 8: BIGMARK ( 4,234.25 )
Seat 9: scruffy ( 5,266 )
Tourney Level:8 Blinds(200/400-25 ante)
Marchino204 posts ante [25]
rich1717 posts ante [25]
Catsseven posts ante [25]
mandrakeBR posts ante [25]
scruffy posts ante [25]
BIGMARK posts ante [25]
BIGMARK posts big blind [400]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Catsseven [ As, Tc ]
scruffy folds
Marchino204 raises to [800]
rich1717 folds
Catsseven goes all-in
Catsseven raises to [2,475]
mandrakeBR folds
BIGMARK folds
Marchino204 calls [1,642.50]
Marchino204 goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [32.50] to Catsseven
** Showdown **
Marchino204 shows [ Ah, 8c ]
Catsseven shows [ As, Tc ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Js, 9d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ] USUAL SH ITE
** Hand Conclusion **
Marchino204 wins 5,435 from main pot with two pair, Aces and Eights
************ Game 616368791 ends ************

gotta love the delay on the river card... 2 seconds or so while it hunts for the MAGIC 8...

TOTALBULLSHI T SITE...

Catsseven.
By:
wingy123
When: 08 Dec 09 11:27
i have had time to reflect on my unfortunate luck over the last couple of days after not playing from yesterday morning onwards.

I do feel there is major coincidence regarding bad beats so soon after withdrawals, and quite abit of luck when first depositing after a while.

There are days when you can sit there and the cards come over and your ahead when you can say to yourself "I know he/she is going to hit" and they do.

Somedays you hit, somedays you dont.

It posed me with an interesting couple of questions on the topic of withdrawals:

When people are withdrawing how much do they withdraw at a time?
Do you wait to reach a certain level?
Do you withdraw back down to a certain level each time?
Do you just withdraw only when you actually need the money to buy/pay for something?
After you have withdrawn a large sum, does the withdrawal theory of getting no luck and bad beats come into your mind if you have a bad beat soon after withdrawal?
By:
Steve F.
When: 08 Dec 09 11:31
friends of Arbboy no doubt
By:
wingy123
When: 08 Dec 09 12:26
hardly, although i did get done KK v 44 v ysoserious in the ews other day so i know his frustration
By:
fedddddddd uppppppppp
When: 08 Dec 09 12:38
Think ive discovered a way to foil the bad beats... just fold the hand... had a feeling I was well behind with kk... pre flop... easy fold on the suited 8 high flop.

5th Game:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616539163 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $5.50 Buy-in + $0.50 Entry Fee, Level:2 Blinds(15/30-(no ante)) - Monday, December 07, 23:29:34 GMT 2009
HOT! Next Day Sat to Eyes Wide Shut #307636
Table 1 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of active players : 7
Seat 1: Rhino56 ( 2,047.50 )
Seat 2: Catsseven ( 1,788.12 )
Seat 3: Augustone ( 855 )
Seat 5: Haitti ( 1,577.50 )
Seat 6: pokergiant ( 1,681.25 )
Seat 7: 23peter ( 1,063.13 )
Seat 8: ljones ( 1,487.50 )
Tourney Level:2 Blinds(15/30-(no ante))
Rhino56 posts small blind [15]
Catsseven posts big blind [30]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Catsseven [ Kc, Kh ]
Augustone calls [30]
Haitti folds
pokergiant raises to [135]
23peter folds
ljones folds
Rhino56 folds
Catsseven calls [105]
Augustone calls [105]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 3s, 4s ]
Catsseven checks
Augustone checks
pokergiant bets [420]
Catsseven folds
Augustone goes all-in
Augustone raises to [720]
pokergiant calls [300]
** Showdown **
Augustone shows [ 5s, Ts ]
pokergiant shows [ As, Ac ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
** Hand Conclusion **
Augustone wins 1,860 from main pot with a Flush
************ Game 616539163 ends ************

Unfortunately got done next hand with my 99 running into another AA...

:)

Catsseven.
By:
wingy123
When: 08 Dec 09 12:57
try to be positive:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616729996 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $11 Buy-in + $1.10 Entry Fee, Level:4 Blinds(50/100-(no ante)) - Tuesday, December 08, 13:54:52 GMT 2009
D2N Turbo NL Hold'em $12.10 #3601918
Table 1 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: WTFIWONAUSD ( 765 )
Seat 2: layingking ( 3,008.75 )
Seat 3: divad79 ( 645 )
Seat 4: zizouthebes ( 796.25 )
Seat 6: simon008 ( 785 )
Tourney Level:4 Blinds(50/100-(no ante))
layingking posts small blind [50]
divad79 posts big blind [100]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to layingking [ Kh, Ac ]
zizouthebes folds
simon008 goes all-in
simon008 raises to [785]
WTFIWONAUSD folds
layingking calls [735]
divad79 folds
** Showdown **
layingking shows [ Kh, Ac ]
simon008 shows [ 7c, As ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 3s, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
** Hand Conclusion **
simon008 wins 1,670 from main pot with a Flush
************ Game 616729996 ends ************
By:
[x] These checkboxes suck
When: 08 Dec 09 13:20
Six of Clubs 07 Dec 10:34
why are you sitting with just 20bb?



wingy123 07 Dec 10:37
lost a decent sized pot the hand before (wen ahead until river), first hand before i could reload


from the second hand you posted its clear that you are a shortstacker (nothing wrong with that), so why lie and make yourself look like a complete peasant?
By:
wingy123
When: 08 Dec 09 13:25
wasnt lying, thats what i had left in my account after the previous bad beat
By:
wingy123
When: 08 Dec 09 13:25
trying to stay positive:

NL Texas Hold'em $22 Buy-in + $2.20 Entry Fee, Level:2 Blinds(15/30-(no ante)) - Tuesday, December 08, 14:14:24 GMT 2009
D2N Turbo NL Hold'em $24.20 #3601975
Table 1 6-max (Real Money)

BB: rocketscrew ( 1,500 )
Seat 2: sortim ( 960 )
Seat 3: smokeman ( 970 )
Seat 4: directace ( 720 )
Button: layingking ( 925 )
SB: minicuzz ( 925 )
Tourney Level:2 Blinds(15/30-(no ante))
minicuzz posts small blind [15]
rocketscrew posts big blind [30]

Preflop: layingking is dealt Q¢À, K¢¼

sortim folds, smokeman raises to 60, directace folds, layingking calls 60, minicuzz folds, rocketscrew folds

Flop: A♦, Q♦, 4¢¼

smokeman bets 123.75, layingking calls 123.75

Turn: K¢¾

1 checks, layingking bets 309.37, smokeman calls 309.37

River: 8¢¾

smokeman bets all in 476.88, layingking calls all in 431.88, Returning uncalled bet 45 to smokeman

**Showdown**

smokeman shows 8♦, A¢¾ two pair, Aces and Eights
layingking shows Q¢À, K¢¼ two pair, Kings and Queens

smokeman wins 1,895 from main pot with two pair, Aces and Eights
By:
o o o o o o o o
When: 08 Dec 09 15:55
U people obviously have no idea of how variance works... just because you get your money in ahead does not mean its always going to win.... if you are 70-30 favourite the law of averages says you should win 70% but over what size sample??? you could easily lose in that situation 50 times in a row.. long term if u get your money in ahead it should even out but still there are no guarantees to say its because of a withdrawal curse is ridiculous....
By:
daddy pig
When: 08 Dec 09 16:39
the truth is out there ;)


http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-articles/the-truth-about-the-withdrawal-curse-2425878
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 08 Dec 09 16:42
u play bad

play better and u will run better
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 08 Dec 09 16:45
ok every single hand on this thread u have misplayed . Ok u may be running bad but if u play bad as well its gonna amplify like 10 x worse

Tighten up!
By:
JPJ
When: 08 Dec 09 17:00
wingy123 07 Dec 10:45


yes had low *****but again in with best hand, next card, bang

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 616157211 *****
NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Monday, December 07, 10:44:18 GMT 2009
Table Sulfur 12 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: yellow dog ( $103.08 )
Seat 3: fitz ( $101.04 )
Seat 4: FREEMASON V ( $90.80 )
Seat 5: h8tersgonh8 ( $115.73 )
Seat 6: layingking ( $40.53 )
Seat 7: saccomano ( $216.85 )
Seat 8: Icemaster90 ( $98 )
Icemaster90 posts small blind [$1]
FREEMASON V posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to layingking [ 6h, Kh ]
h8tersgonh8 folds
layingking calls [$2]
saccomano raises to [$9]
Icemaster90 folds
FREEMASON V folds
layingking calls [$7]

..............................

You have 20bbs, and you are limp/calling for 25% of your stack with K6.
I have a feeling you will dish out enough bad beats of your own ;)
By:
"M"
When: 08 Dec 09 21:07
I was beginning to think it was just me that thought these hands were played a bit poor
By:
i hate poker
When: 08 Dec 09 21:16
why r people taping the glass?
By:
wingy123
When: 08 Dec 09 21:55
hardly say i played em bad, the KK, the table had been aggressive, almost always a raise, i got the raise i wanted and got my money in

Yes the K6 was a bad play pre flop I was on tilt after bad luck on the table

Nothing wrong with the two AK hands, was dominating both times and got unlucky.

The KQ, called the flop to see if he had the Ace, when the Q came i had to bet the turn. Committed when he pushed the river, could i really expect the 8 to help him?
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