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lucylucky
15 Jul 12 17:27
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Samatan-Pau 158.5km

"A tip of the hat to provincial France, the France of the Tour. Our caravan will set off from Samatan, a large town with 2,200 inhabitants which is the main town of the Gers canton. It will probably be a calm start, as the stage is not particularly tough. A sprint finish would be the logical outcome, and I actually hope it happens, because pure sprinters will not get many chances to shine in this Tour. The finish in Pau will be beautiful, like always. This is the 64th time that the Tour visits this city, which is almost a record. Let us pay homage to this city, which we see as a stronghold and a strategic place."

Sagan 10/3
Greipel 9/2
Cavendish 5/1
Goss 9/1

early pappypower prices

someone make a convincing case not to back greipel 9/2ew straight away?

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By:
laroche
When: 15 Jul 12 18:12
As a group those prices make them a little shorter than 1/2; probably not far off right. Among the group, Greipel and Cav are average prices. I'd say Greipel deserved to be shorter than average. Sagan has had a hard, but productive, day; Goss seems to have lost the will; Cav could do anything.

I'd say it was a fair to good bet.
By:
lucylucky
When: 15 Jul 12 18:17
bet365 opened 9/1 on cav, amazing considering surely stage wins have to be on the cards for him to still be here?
By:
ClayDavis
When: 15 Jul 12 18:35
Cav has his eyes on Paris next Sunday. Nothing else imo. Plus Sky will be ablse to help him next Sunday knowing Wiggo is safe
By:
lucylucky
When: 15 Jul 12 18:39
Greipel is going to be 2/1 best price in half an hour.
By:
HoD
When: 15 Jul 12 19:23
Only Sprint chance before next Friday and Sunday. I cannot imagine break getting away too far as too amny teams are sprinter focussed. Cav looks big to me but Greipel will take some pegging back.
By:
OnTheChase
When: 15 Jul 12 22:45
Given their past rivalry, T think Cav will be highly motivated by Greipel's 3 wins to his 1.  Probably no Sky train though.  Also Goss at the odds.
By:
marychain1
When: 15 Jul 12 23:11
I'm not sure this will be a bunch sprint. Its lumpy all day, and looks ripe for a breakaway to me. The three climbs towards the end of the stage may not have a patch on Mont St Clair, they are still going to take some getting over at the into the third week.

Even if a breakaway doesnt stay out, I'm not that convinced that Cav, Griepel and Goss will be on the premises and I think Sagan could well be feeling his exertions from today.

So that leaves me with Edvald Boassen Hagen. EBH will take over the sprinting duties for Sky if Cav isnt around, he's well capable of winning sprints against all but the top two or three guys, as he's shown throughout his career, but again recently in the Dauphine and with his 3rd on Saturday. Also, there's a chance EBH could get into a break today. They have brought him here to win stages, and this one looks a good chance. Normally, he'd stay with yellow, but with a rest day on Tuesday they might let him have his head.

So EBH 35/1. Also reckon FDJ and Euskadi will be amongst the teams desperate to make a break stick, so with this in mind I have had smaller bets on Fedrigo and Azanza at 50/1 and 200/1.

Good luck gang Happy
By:
lucylucky
When: 16 Jul 12 00:28
had a nibble at 65.0 on EBH as you're the resident judge marychain
By:
laroche
When: 16 Jul 12 10:38
Betting 1/3 the top four on here. Short enough?

Goss is the enigma here. After his 30 point penalty he seems to have given up chasing green, but may still fancy a pop at a stage win. Those hills in the second half of the stage today may count against him though. Might have a dabble if he drifts a bit from the current 10/1.
By:
marychain1
When: 16 Jul 12 11:25
I wonder whether Orica GE might try a different tactic today, and stick Gerrans in the breakaway group? If they do I really dont know who will bother chasing it down.

I'd love to see a breakaway group with EBH and Gerrans in it. Can only dream...Happy

Added Gerrans 100/1 each way with Paddy Power.
By:
marychain1
When: 16 Jul 12 11:32
Also, I dont think he'll win the stage, but Sagan will probably be a decent trade. I'm on at 11.5 with the idea of greening out somewhere around 2/1-5/2. I think he'll get in a break and contend the intermediate sprint points and then drop off as he feels the pain of yesterday's climbs.
By:
lucylucky
When: 16 Jul 12 11:44
probably a good idea, market always loves sagan
By:
HoD
When: 16 Jul 12 13:46
Backed Greipel at 4.4 (how is he that big?), Goss too big too.
By:
jumper
When: 16 Jul 12 13:48
Eurosport saying that one of the allegations about tackgate yesterday was that it was ' a betting syndicate'. Haven't heard this anywhere else. Now Sagan did go down to 1.40 and it didn't seem to affect any of the leading group. Interesting.
By:
lucylucky
When: 16 Jul 12 14:06
the breakaway wasnt in any danger. i cant see how anyone gained an advantage betting on the stage.
By:
HoD
When: 16 Jul 12 14:17
Triads or the mafia or Lance Armstrong, I reckon!
By:
HoD
When: 16 Jul 12 14:22
So, from the odds think that the brak will stick. 4 big sprinters all very tempting now!
By:
marychain1
When: 16 Jul 12 14:25
Totally true, those blaming it on a betting syndicate are missing the obvious point that there was no way the breakaway was gettin caught. They were 12-15 minutes ahead with an easy 40k descent to come. They'd have had to have been Within 3-4 mins to catch them at that stage.
By:
marychain1
When: 16 Jul 12 14:34
I've got Fedrigo at 66/1 each way in this breakaway, come on lad.O
By:
razz
When: 16 Jul 12 14:40
betting syndicate doesnt make sense to me. you couldnt predict who would get punctured and who wouldn't
By:
gresty241
When: 16 Jul 12 14:41
how many british riders are there in the tour, cavendish, froom, millar, wiggly braggins, cummins......any others
By:
jumper
When: 16 Jul 12 14:46
No, think it's just those riders
By:
lucylucky
When: 16 Jul 12 14:48
good fun backing and laying the front 4 on time gaps. would be up loads if it werent for bloody itv4 ads
By:
book
When: 16 Jul 12 14:50
breaks coming back,cavandish & griepel will get back in,massive prices on here at the mo.
By:
lucylucky
When: 16 Jul 12 14:51
backed cavendish 27.0
backed greipel 27.0

lol
By:
crete
When: 16 Jul 12 14:53
cav went to 27.5 hmmmm; could still go either way
By:
padlock
When: 16 Jul 12 14:59
will they bother catching them?
By:
razz
When: 16 Jul 12 15:02
what is going on with greipel's odds??
By:
crete
When: 16 Jul 12 15:03
Cav too short now IMO, even if they catch them it's a tricky last 30 kilometres
By:
HoD
When: 16 Jul 12 15:03
Lotto are chasing so yes. Greipel odds ... we they/won't they catch them?
By:
gresty241
When: 16 Jul 12 15:07
cheers jumper Happy
By:
db1974
When: 16 Jul 12 15:09
Don't think they'll catch them personally. They don't seem to have totally made up their mind in the peleton.
By:
razz
When: 16 Jul 12 15:11
yeah theres only a couple that want to chase, and the peloton hasn't shown much interest in chasing breakaways in previous stages
By:
HoD
When: 16 Jul 12 15:16
The difference here is that it is a sprinters' finish and they are not many opportunties left for the quick men.
By:
HoD
When: 16 Jul 12 15:17
Under 5 mins now .... probably a catch
By:
crete
When: 16 Jul 12 15:19
I doubt it but it's still in the balance
By:
razz
When: 16 Jul 12 15:20
back up to 5.30 odds just shot out on greipel and cav
By:
marychain1
When: 16 Jul 12 15:21
If the gap is 5-6'00 after the three climbs, its a unprobable catch with under 3k to go.
By:
marychain1
When: 16 Jul 12 15:22
Under 30k to go I should say
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