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lucylucky
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Limoux/Foix 191km

"We have reached the Pyrenees! But this is more of an appetiser than a mountain stage proper. Things will get going at kilometre 116 with the ascent to the Port de Lers, with 11.4 km at 7%. Then comes the Mur de Péguère, which is making its Tour debut and could deal some serious damage too: some sections are close to an 18% gradient, with 10.8% at the finish! Nevertheless, the distance to Foix will make great climbers hesitate. In my opinion, this is more of a stage for all-rounders such Voeckler and Chavanel. Or maybe a 50 man strong group with the freshest riders in it..."

Nibali 12/1
Evans 15/1
LL Sanchez 16/1
Voeckler 20/1
Casar 22/1
Valverde 25/1
Froome 25/1
VDB 25/1

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Report marychain1 July 14, 2012 8:18 PM BST
HoD won't be happy. Fancy Sanchez for this, he showed he's up for taking a stage today, and yesterday, but this is possibly more his cup of tea, it looks like a stage where you need a climber who can get home from a break or hang in there himself. Also think Rui Costa and Jerome Coppel could earmark this stage as an opportunity to make their mark on this tour.
Report HoD July 14, 2012 8:26 PM BST
Sorry - slow of the mark tonight!

Betting pre-start is a tricky one. You have to choose between the break caught or staying away. With the pace Nibali, Evans, Sky will go up the last climb (very steep at the top), you think that any break will get caught?

Nibali is the best descender but must be getting a desperate man. Wiggo is no slouch down hill and following is easier than getting away but Nibali could grab a few seconds. Sagan 100-1 with PP looked of interest but Cat 1 might be beyond even him.... and they've chopped him to 33-1 now.

I might have £1 on ... errr .... Paulinho (?)
Report db1974 July 14, 2012 9:18 PM BST
Is this the official thread!

100/1 Sagan - raging I missed that. Even with a Cat1 climb it's a crazy price. Spending too much time with the wife and kids on the weekend, that's my problem.

Think I'll try to wait until tomorrow and see how the stage is developing before I back anyone. Got stung the last 2 mountain stages backing too many guys pre-stage. Once they don't make the break you're bet is dead in the water.
Report ClayDavis July 14, 2012 9:26 PM BST
Anyone think Sagan and Nibali might try and slip em off the final climb of the day?
Report marychain1 July 14, 2012 9:33 PM BST
I cant have Sagan for this
Report BraveInca July 14, 2012 11:15 PM BST
Any chance you think betfair will wake the hell up and load up markets for tomorrow??
Report Wessex July 15, 2012 12:09 AM BST
Not sure which is less likely, Betfair start taking cycling seriously and put a market up or Sagan winning this stage!!!
Report marychain1 July 15, 2012 12:48 AM BST
Had to get the bets on early for tomo's stage cos I'm doing the Sky Ride, Manchester. Not sure what time I'll get back but hopefully in time to see the majority of the stage.

Done Sanchez 18/1, Rui Costa 40/1 & Coppel 100/1
Report Francis Benali July 15, 2012 12:49 AM BST
Market finally up on BF
Report JohnLaurie July 15, 2012 8:31 AM BST
I'll still go for the climbers here with those two category 1s. Could be a day for the riders a little lower in the GC.

Menchov 150-1
Leipheimer 150-1
Scleck 66-1
Valverde 25-1

Little e/w on each
Report jumper July 15, 2012 8:55 AM BST
So the markets were up by 12.40am? I was checking constantly over the course of the evening until I went to bed just after midnight.

What is the point of receiving gloss advertising emails from Betfair if you can't take what is considered a premier sporting even seriously? Is it any worth complaining, and to whom? Do this company have any sort of complaints policy? Do they reply to comments such as these? Let me know here, and I'll email whoever I have to.
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 9:51 AM BST
well interesting stage this and think we may see some action even though the last summit is 60km from home...looks a real climbers day and think if the riders can get away they can hold on...

anyone not like the fact wiggo led out boasson hagen yesterday?? today is a big stage and he should be saving his energy for the climb he is going to be broken onPlain

the last climb today is going to test wiggo i have no doubt - can nibali or evens find the legs to break the rhythm of team sky and isolate wiggo?? and let froome chase the maillot jaune??

i think they are going to try...except froome of course who isn't allowed toSad

one thing that is for sure wiggo will get broken today the climb is brutal and just the sort he won't like...
Report jumper July 15, 2012 9:52 AM BST
Just got this reply so I at least have confidence of getting some sort of decent service.

Thank you for your feedback regarding the Tour De France markets.

I raised you concerns with our Market Operations team who have advised that the previous stages were all loaded between 19:00 - 21:00 the night before but unfortunately we were not able to do the same for this stage due to workloads. Apologies for any inconvenience caused and I have been assured that the remaining stages will be up between 19:00 - 21:00 the night before.
Report ClayDavis July 15, 2012 10:16 AM BST
Frank Schleck has been getting better as Tour has gone on. i thought he climbed much better on last Alps stage....but 60k to finish off last climb? He is always likely to be outsprinted
Report ClayDavis July 15, 2012 10:18 AM BST
I'm a huge fan of Thibaut Pinot - what o we reckon for today?
Report ClayDavis July 15, 2012 10:22 AM BST
Also Vanendert - won Stage 14 last year and was also 2nd in stage 12 - likes the Pyrenees.....could be worth a punt?
Report federalski81 July 15, 2012 11:02 AM BST
A Sandy Casar stage if ever I saw one.
Short odds but backing him just for the win.

3 long shot EW as well.
Rafael Valls 200/1
Steve ****s 250/1
Sergio Paulinho 150/1
Report federalski81 July 15, 2012 11:03 AM BST
Haha, ok then...
Steve 'What you do after lying on top of your missus for 5 minutes'.
Report NorwichRob July 15, 2012 11:41 AM BST
Got to be Nibali for me, should be a cracking stage today...gl
Report padlock July 15, 2012 11:51 AM BST
when do we get live pics on eurosport?
Report jumper July 15, 2012 11:56 AM BST

Jul 15, 2012 -- 11:51AM, padlock wrote:


when do we get live pics on eurosport?


1pm I believe today. Programme starts at 12.30.

Report padlock July 15, 2012 11:57 AM BST
cheers
Report marychain1 July 15, 2012 12:07 PM BST
I fancy Nibali for Wednesday's stage, think it may well be a breakaway today
Report CrowsEye July 15, 2012 12:09 PM BST
Vinokourov 50/1
Voigt 100/1
Albasini 100/1
Valls 200/1

E/W 4 Places
Report jumper July 15, 2012 12:15 PM BST
We can only follow the tour trackers until we have live pictures.

13:12    Result of first climb
The points for the col du Portel were won by:
1. Voeckler (EUC) 5pts
2. Kessiakoff (AST) 3pts
3. Martinez (EUS) 2pts
4. Vande Velde (GRS) 1pt

13:10    Cofidis leading the peloton
The bunch is all together with about 1km to climb and Cofidis is the team that's at the front of the peloton. Voeckler and Taaramae are now on the attack near the top of the col du Portel.

13:08    Coppel's crisis was shortlived
Coppel (SAU) has rejoined the peloton after being dropped briefly. The seven escapees have been reeled in after only 1km at the front of the stage.

13:07    Coppel also dropped
The rider in 14th overall is one of many riders who are losing contact with the peloton on the col du Portel.

13:07    Seven in the lead
At the 28km mark, seven men have a small advantage on the peloton.

13:06    Taaramae's move is over
The Estonian's escape has been nulified and he is back in the peloton which is around the 27km mark.

13:05    Several in pursuit Taaramae
Bernaudeau (EUC) and Farrar (GRS) have also been dropped as the bunch ascends the first climb of the stage. Taaramae is still at the front of the stage and there are several men trying to bridge the gap to the Cofidis rider.
Report HoD July 15, 2012 12:45 PM BST
Paulinho in the break (lucky guess eh?), Sagan with him up the road (surely to help Nibali in a while ... doesn't need the sprint points), and Nibali himself lookin good.

I've backed all three .... but often count my chickens!!
Report Orsoncart July 15, 2012 12:51 PM BST
Boassan-Hagen for me 125/1 with PP
Report jumper July 15, 2012 12:56 PM BST
13:53    11 lead by 2'00"

The 11 leaders are now 2'00" ahead of the peloton.

Here's a reminder of who is on the attack:Philippe Gilbert (FRA) BMC, Cyril Gautier (FRA) EUC, Gorka Izaguirre (ESP) EUS, Peter Sagan (SVK) LIQ, Sebastien Minard (FRA) ALM, Eduard Vorganov (RUS) KAT, Sandy Casar (FRA) FDJ, Steven Kruiswijk (NED) RAB, Luis Sanchez (ESP) RAB and Martin Velits (SVK) OPQ.


Really strong break this one. If this gets any further time, think this one could stay away.
Report federalski81 July 15, 2012 1:01 PM BST
Nearly 4 minutes now, here is hoping the peleton take it nice and easy for another while yet...
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 1:22 PM BST
the leaders are 10 minutes clear now
Report jumper July 15, 2012 1:36 PM BST
I only could get Sanchez at 16.00 here this morning. If I'd have been able to do so overnight, sure I'd have gotten close to 20 which would have bettered the 18s out there from the firms. Betfair can't use this as an advert where we can get better prices - if they don't put a market up in the first place. My only comfort is I can trade out soon for a free ride.
Report lucylucky July 15, 2012 2:31 PM BST
it can be an advantage too though jumper. the bookies don't have a clue on cycling and are blindly copying betfair for prices in most cases. if betfair goes up late, there are often glaring errors in the bookies prices.
Report HoD July 15, 2012 2:42 PM BST
like 100-1 Sagan for instance .... looking a little big now!!
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 2:43 PM BST
Yeah I'd love to be on that 100/1 now, or even the 33/1, which I didn't take either!
Report lucylucky July 15, 2012 2:53 PM BST
lay sagan 7/2, others wont let it go to a sprint with him
Report marychain1 July 15, 2012 3:00 PM BST
Backed insausti £8 @ 38
Report lucylucky July 15, 2012 3:26 PM BST
4 figures green on gorka izagirre, no other positions.
Report lucylucky July 15, 2012 3:30 PM BST
christ sagan, glad i got out at 10.5! any views on how they play it post descent?
Report razz July 15, 2012 3:32 PM BST
sagan might even catch them!
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 3:35 PM BST
well sky just dictating the whole stage...

casar for me here
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 3:37 PM BST
Great ride by Sagan here. Can't see him beat at this stage.
Report Ozymandius July 15, 2012 3:39 PM BST
Sagan is a Monster.
Report razz July 15, 2012 3:44 PM BST
wont be long before sagan catches casar
Report HoD July 15, 2012 3:45 PM BST
Might get a decent win at last! Tempted to lay but still holding it all.
Report HoD July 15, 2012 3:46 PM BST
Sky doing what Sky do best again. Getting late for attacks?
Report marychain1 July 15, 2012 3:46 PM BST
Unbelievable ride from Sagan this, didn't think there was any possible way he could stay with the breakaway over those climbs.
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 3:47 PM BST
its all over...sagan really is a find this tour...
Report razz July 15, 2012 3:47 PM BST
i got a nice proffit on sagan but im not sure when to green out
Report federalski81 July 15, 2012 3:48 PM BST
I'd be grinning ear to ear if I was holding a 100/1 Sagan ticket. Great call.
Report razz July 15, 2012 3:49 PM BST
70 quid matched at 40 and 294 at 38 on here, 100/1 on paddypower or something?
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 3:51 PM BST
Yeah 100/1 in a couple of places yesterday for about 45 mins. No market here at the time. I dread to think what you could have gotten on him if they had a market up. Probably double that, for small money admittedly but a 200/1 winner is a 200/1 winner, even to a tenner.
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 3:54 PM BST
cadel losing serious time here
Report razz July 15, 2012 3:54 PM BST
evans tour over get on wiggins outright!
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 3:55 PM BST
lost over a minute there at least
Report History Maker July 15, 2012 3:57 PM BST
3, maybe 4 guys to pace him back.

Don't think they'll make it tbh.
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 3:59 PM BST
Sky will wait for Evans
Report ClayDavis July 15, 2012 3:59 PM BST
well done Sagan backers - they had to dislodge him over final climb. They couldn't. Game, set and match. Go and collect
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 4:01 PM BST
wiggins puncture as well
Report razz July 15, 2012 4:01 PM BST
he didnt look to lose much time though
Report comingupthehill July 15, 2012 4:02 PM BST
sky with a car load of bikes just give him another to ride
Report ClayDavis July 15, 2012 4:02 PM BST
they are waiting on him
Report HoD July 15, 2012 4:05 PM BST
Evans punctured so much they have put him on a chunky tyred mountain bike now!
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 4:06 PM BST
cadel 3rd puncture amazing stuff...unheard of
Report harry callaghan July 15, 2012 4:06 PM BST
hodLaugh
Report bris1 July 15, 2012 4:06 PM BST
as a first time viewer why do they wait for the competition? and would Cadel if the roles were reversed? unwritten rule...
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 4:08 PM BST
Unwritten rule PLUS Sky won't want Wiggin's victory tainted by not waiting
Report NorwichRob July 15, 2012 4:08 PM BST
Someone having laugh here...more punctures than my usual Sunday ride!
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 4:09 PM BST
Sagan backable price again at odds against
Report razz July 15, 2012 4:11 PM BST
you guys think anyone other than sagan and sanchez can win it?
Report federalski81 July 15, 2012 4:11 PM BST
Sagan to lead the chase, Casar to sit on his wheel and steal it...Please.
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 4:13 PM BST
If it comes to a sprint there is no way anyone other than Sagan is winning this. The only way anyone else will win is to do what Sanchez is doing
Report razz July 15, 2012 4:15 PM BST
sanchez too far ahead anyway Happy
Report federalski81 July 15, 2012 4:15 PM BST
I know, just being hopeful.
Report marychain1 July 15, 2012 4:15 PM BST
****ing hell, if Sanchez holds on I will have 3 days on the trot at

125/1
4/1
18/1

:-)
Report razz July 15, 2012 4:17 PM BST
wow nice streak marychain
Report HoD July 15, 2012 4:17 PM BST
Laid just in time at 4-1 .... could have been a very big win, but average will do!
Report Ozymandius July 15, 2012 4:17 PM BST
wow, nice going mary
Report razz July 15, 2012 4:19 PM BST
i got a nice 67 quid green, very happy with that
Report Pounf July 15, 2012 4:19 PM BST
Is Rolland being a **** ?
Report Dylan1975 July 15, 2012 4:19 PM BST
someone threw tacks on the road! idiots.
Report marychain1 July 15, 2012 4:19 PM BST
Only 6 picks in total as well

Millar, Sanchez
Griepel
Sanchez, Rui Costa & Coppel

Going to get restricted soon :-)

Yes, brought Rolland back.
Report NorwichRob July 15, 2012 4:40 PM BST
Wd winners...another great stage....tackgate n all....reckon that anyone found guilty will be in for a long stretch with the gendarmerie...Crazy
Report ClayDavis July 15, 2012 4:42 PM BST
Awful stage. GC contenders did nothing - apart from poor Cadel and his run of bad luck. No attacks on the climbs. Yawn Yawn Yawn
Report db1974 July 15, 2012 4:50 PM BST
Funny how betting clouds the mind. I thought the stage 2 days ago was rubbish because I had no-one in the breakaway. Today I had a small bet on Sanchez so was glued to it!

Sprinters' stage tomorrow - Sagan has to be backed.
Report lucylucky July 15, 2012 5:23 PM BST
let's see what the prices are. imo greipel should always be heading the market on sprint stages but if goss is double figures, will have a nibble.
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