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razz
24 Jan 12 17:15
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Main card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Rashad Evans vs.  Phil Davis
Middleweight bout:  Michael Bisping vs.  Chael Sonnen
Middleweight bout:  Demian Maia vs.  Chris Weidman

Preliminary card (Fuel TV)
Lightweight bout:  Evan Dunham vs.  Nik Lentz
Heavyweight bout:  Mike Russow vs.  John-Olav Einemo
Bantamweight bout:  Johnny Bedford vs.  Mitch Gagnon
Featherweight bout:  Cub Swanson vs.  George Roop
Featherweight bout:  Charles Oliveira vs.  Eric Wisely
Lightweight bout:  Michael Johnson vs.  Shane Roller
Heavyweight bout:  Joey Beltran vs.  Lavar Johnson
Middleweight bout:  Chris Camozzi vs.  Dustin Jacoby

who ya got? im going for a big bet on evans, phil davis has overated wrestling who struggled to take down little nog a while ago, his stand up is not in the same league as rashad's either in my opinion. haven't really looked at the other fights yet, although einemo could be a decent underdog to bet on, his stand up looked good against herman and undoubtedly has a jiu jitsu advantage over russow.
i'm thinking sonnen will win his fight but 1.25 is to short for me to back, bisping has a very underrated guard and his take down defence is good too(see his fight against rashad evans) however i feel that sonnen has underrated kickboxing, and this could be an interesting affair standing up. it will be interesting to see if bisping's cardio plays a factor here as he has said that he is finding it harder and harder to make weight at 185, and sonnen more than likely will be pressing for takedowns throughout this fight, which could wear bisping out.
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Report alwayswinning2000 January 26, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
I can't see how weidman 4/6 can be favorite over maia 6/5, i think if the fight stay's standing maia will outpoint him. Maia's standup improves with every fight an can see him having the edge there. Weidman has amazing wrestling, but maia has amazing jujitsu. Weidman also took this fight on 2 weeks notice, an even if he takes maia down, you have to constantly stay active on the ground just like munoz, did against maia otherwise you will get submitted. Im not sure if weidman will be able to keep the pace for the duration, thats why i can see maia on points or maia by a late submission.
For me sonnen is an absolute banker against bisping, i just can't see how bisping can win, as much as id love him to. 1/4 isnt to attractive tho but i will include in a multi.
oliveira also should go well, now he has dropped weight class, he was good at lightweight against opponents a lot bigger, so now at featherweight he should be a beast. 1/5 is not to appealing tho.
Evans should win, i doubt davis will be able to take rashard down an keep him there. Evans should be to fast and have to much experience for davis. It does worry me tho how evans has been number 1 contender for so long, and had multiple title shots scrapped through injury. Its almost like it's destiny for him not to fight jones for the title. Hopefully not tho and rashard will get through davis an get his title shot which he deserves.
Report elguapo222 January 27, 2012 8:16 AM GMT
Did anyone notice Bisping's tone sounds slightly less reassured within the last couple of interviews, especially with Ariel?
Report Templeton Peck January 27, 2012 2:30 PM GMT
Just a quick note to point out the three fight main card begins at 1am UK time.  Betfair had it up as a five fight main card starting at 3am.
Report razz January 27, 2012 2:56 PM GMT
thanks tp, i think my espn said it started at 3 too, i guess the prelims will be on ufc.tv. i wish i twas at 3 though, im not going to be back in time for that now Sad
Report razz January 28, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
im just going with a large bet on rashad, and some very small bets on maia, einemo and sonnen, surprised that rashads price hasn't shortened really at all, einemo's has shortend from 3 to 2.5 which i managed to arb quite a lot which was a nice catch
Report EastLower Gooner January 28, 2012 7:46 PM GMT
maia odds against. weidman cut +30lbs in lldays. maia was preparing for a much tougher opponent. looking for him to just show his experience and grind this out.
Report EastLower Gooner January 28, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
levar johnson...old school fighter. lol.
Report EastLower Gooner January 28, 2012 11:21 PM GMT
cub swanson tattoos....we get it cub. your from so cal. jeez.
Report skin-ton-bomb January 28, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
can any1 tell me why betting is suspended on most fights?
Report Dr.Cypionate January 29, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
alwayswinning2000 only read your few first lines but spot on lad...ridiculous that weidman is fav in this is utter madness...the dogs bite tonight fells big time! back every outsider on the main card and you wont go far wrong!..this is the post i put on facebook, see what you guys think...

maia price is huge! weidman looks like his strength is maia strength... the floor ! sonnen didnt last a round with them tactics so take that away from weid and what has he left?..maia stand up has improved as well so fancy him there at 2.3 !..going with davis against evans purely on value..nearly 2/1! and sonnen bisping..bisping one of the best take down defences in the game against sonnen awesome grappling..if bisping can stop the take down he wins as he will always out work him and if it goes to points bisping wins imo..the big if is can bisping twarts the take down if he can he wins...5/1 bisping? gotta give that a shout!..DOGS TO BITE!?

Confused
Report Dr.Cypionate January 29, 2012 12:12 AM GMT
there cant just be 3 fights on the main card tonight guys..must be 4 at least?
Report ItchyDon January 29, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
Does anyone have a live stream please?
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 12:42 AM GMT
nick lentz has a new eye socket :o
Report Dr.Cypionate January 29, 2012 12:56 AM GMT
gooner..so there only 3 fights on tonight then? main card that is?
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
triple header...maia-wiedman, sonnen-bisping and rashad-davis
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
dont think they could do 4 or 5 like in a ppv...fox will want to do all their preview hype stuff.
Report viva el presidente! January 29, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
ffs - the usual pointless suspend.
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 1:03 AM GMT
good god...what happened to the ufc intro? :(
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 1:04 AM GMT
LOOOL...found this a few minutes ago looking at the press conference on youtube :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkUVRMSXe3s&feature=related
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 1:09 AM GMT
+10 minutes of chatting **** and ads.
Report Dr.Cypionate January 29, 2012 1:43 AM GMT
seriously wtf was that from maia!..

world champ jujitsu guy that never even tries to take an amateur in the ufc down!...wtf
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 1:44 AM GMT
bisping wouldve killed him.

the fox coverage sucks big time.
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
I thought Maia won that.
Report bris1 January 29, 2012 1:51 AM GMT
had it 29-28 for Weidman
Report bris1 January 29, 2012 1:51 AM GMT
and i had money on Maia Scared
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 1:54 AM GMT
Sonnen stuffs Bisping here.
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 1:58 AM GMT
Bisping getting completely controlled
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
Bisping has this....
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
Bisping will taken down soon and smothered. Sonnen on points
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 2:06 AM GMT
chael is done.....cmon Michael....BIG fkin round now.
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:07 AM GMT
Ive got Bisping ahead..Come on u little ****!!
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:07 AM GMT
He's ahead surely?
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:08 AM GMT
what a t wat. gets taken down in 7 secs
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
this ones over
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
this ones over
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:11 AM GMT
even though bisping won the first two, Sonnen gets the fight because of Mikes piss poor last round
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:13 AM GMT
sonnen got s fcked at the end there too. if the fight went another 10 secs Mike would have won
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
What a fcking
Report Only-the-Brave January 29, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
agree with the judges there tbh - sonnen was comfortable and done enough to win that.
Report boycie1 January 29, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
Absolute ball*x!
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
oh do one mate. Bisping won that
Report boycie1 January 29, 2012 2:18 AM GMT
one judge had it feckin 30-27!!! Bisping was robbed there and Sonnen is a grade A ars*hole as well
Report Only-the-Brave January 29, 2012 2:18 AM GMT
not a chance.  Takedowns alone gave him the advantage early and the 3rd round was completely one way.  Bisping was never in control - best he did was have him against the Octagon.

Be interesting to see Sonnen's price against Silva.  Bossed him for most of the fight last time, just so good on the ground.
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:18 AM GMT
Complete home decision
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:19 AM GMT
Even the comms were saying he may well need a stoppage
Report ArmchairIdiot January 29, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
Mike won the first two and finished the fight on top of him.
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
great....maia and bisping throw away their fights.
Report boycie1 January 29, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
exactly, and if you were looking at the betting trends the fight was going Bispings way...it was close but 30-27 is a joke, Sonnen looked wrecked goin into the 3rd round so he did well to take him and hold him down
Report bris1 January 29, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
first 2 were close so wouldn't complain at 29-28 either way, get the feeling the judges were following the script with or without the big 3rd round from Sonnen though
Report Only-the-Brave January 29, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
i wanted bisping to win myself but on what the judges look for/usually score on you could tell there was only going to be one winner.  Be very surprised if their is any controversy in the decision tbh - won the first and 3rd for mine.
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
R1 Sonnen
R2 Bisping
R3 Bisping blows it.
Report boycie1 January 29, 2012 2:23 AM GMT

Jan 29, 2012 -- 2:22AM, bris1 wrote:


first 2 were close so wouldn't complain at 29-28 either way, get the feeling the judges were following the script with or without the big 3rd round from Sonnen though


Good post, exactly right...had Maia and Bisping both to win so thats me done for the night, good luck

Report Only-the-Brave January 29, 2012 2:30 AM GMT
davis got every chance here imo as long as he doesnt get sparked early.  Expect his wrestling ability to give him a chance here.
Report EastLower Gooner January 29, 2012 2:41 AM GMT
Just not feeling the Fox coverage...maybe they're still ironing stuff out.

everyone seems so hesitant and nervous...and its way to drawn out with all the previews and ads.

am i the only one who feel this way???
Report bris1 January 29, 2012 2:52 AM GMT
previews are definately too drawn out, too much filler
Report bris1 January 29, 2012 3:12 AM GMT
49-46 Rashad
Report razz January 30, 2012 4:39 AM GMT
Just finished watching the fights, bisping really impressed me, I thought he edged it, but I knew the judges would give it to Sonnen based on the takedown's in the first 2 rounds. I hate the way that takedown's get so much precedence in the scoring especially as bisping got up almost immediately from them. it was a close fight but you can't really call it a robbery.
Maia on the other-hand looked awful, probably the worst performance I've seen him give in the ufc. Weidman probably would of won that if he had a proper training camp, he only had 10 days notice I think it was.
Rashad won me a lot of money, the fight went pretty much like I expected but thought Rashad might of been able to finish it or dominate a bit more.

next week we got Diaz vs Condit !!!! OH ****!!!
Report razz January 30, 2012 4:39 AM GMT
ExcitedExcitedExcitedExcited
Report mehmet j mook January 30, 2012 6:22 PM GMT
Me too Razz,good boy suga!!

Had weidmann,rashad and mike in a treble too.

Bisping won that fight,won the first 2 rounds and lost the 3rd,simple as that. Had it been a 5 round fight like rashad and davis and he would have stopped chael imo,i hope they give bisping palharres next,shut some of the tools up. That fight confirmed bisping as the ufcs number 2 MW for me.
Report razz January 31, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
does anyone know what odds bisping was trading at, as the fight went on?
Report bris1 February 1, 2012 5:47 PM GMT
I think he was around 2.3 after the 2nd round
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