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razz
29 Oct 11 13:45
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Main card
Welterweight bout:  B.J penn vs. Nick Diaz
Featherweight bout:  Hatsu Hioki vs.  George Roop
Bantamweight bout:  Scott Jorgensen vs.  Jeff Curran
Heavyweight bout:  Mirko Filipović vs.  Roy Nelson
Heavyweight bout:  Cheick Kongo vs.  Matt Mitrione

Preliminary card (Facebook)
Middleweight bout:  Dustin Jacoby vs.  Clifford Starks
Middleweight bout:  Chris Camozzi vs.  Francis Carmont
Lightweight bout:  Ramsey Nijem vs.  Danny Downes
Light Heavyweight bout:  Brandon Vera vs.  Eliot Marshall

Preliminary card
Catchweight (148 lb) bout:  Tyson Griffin vs.  Bart Palaszewski
Lightweight bout:  Dennis Siver vs.  Donald Cerrone

completely forgot this was this weekend, whats everyone going for? i got cerrone, vera, and im going to lay a submission on the penn/diaz fight, as my main bets
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Report victor meldrew doesnt believe October 30, 2011 2:50 AM GMT
dunno how you can score that round
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe October 30, 2011 2:50 AM GMT
absolutely nothing happened
Report razz October 30, 2011 2:50 AM GMT
mitrione won that round
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe October 30, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
how did he win it?  just by 'control' or 'aggression' as he was closing him down
Report razz October 30, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
he was the aggressor the whole round, backing kongo up
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
very tough, depends on these weird judges again!
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe October 30, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
hope he did!
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
matt clipped him there, looks a bit more aggressive now
Report razz October 30, 2011 2:52 AM GMT
im so glad i didnt have a serious bet on this
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:53 AM GMT
matt looks more likely to get the big punch in but might come down to aggression
Report razz October 30, 2011 2:53 AM GMT
kongo could gas out imo
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:53 AM GMT
1.86 is bigger than sp on matt....
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
^^ kongo hasn't done nothing to gas out
Report razz October 30, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
just saw him take a deep breath
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
matts catching the eye alot more than kongo
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 2:55 AM GMT
Kongo is mentally weak IMO
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
easier round to score that looks to be 2-0
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe October 30, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
think Matt won that one
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
Kongo has the capabilty ,has more power , better technique than this guy . Just doesn't believe in himself
Report razz October 30, 2011 2:57 AM GMT
he's looking a bit tired, and matt looks relatively fresh
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:57 AM GMT
matt looks lighting fast
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
matt is not liking this fight one bit!
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:00 AM GMT
cant really understand the odds...
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:00 AM GMT
Kongo dominating the 3rd
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:00 AM GMT
^^ really?
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:02 AM GMT
but losing this round makes it 2-1 right?
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:02 AM GMT
but prob not enough :(
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe October 30, 2011 3:02 AM GMT
not sure who won the first
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
think the last round really edged kongo the fight
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe October 30, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
hope not
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
be very surprised if kongo dose not win mate
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
does*
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:04 AM GMT
kongo bongo
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:04 AM GMT
shocking performance in the last round matt
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:04 AM GMT
30-27 the ****??Angry
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
yeh same as before... its impossible not to give matt the 1st or 2nd round at least
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
judges need sacking, shocking yet agin
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:06 AM GMT
wow, looked at odds on diaz fight... have flipped flopped
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:06 AM GMT
id have to watch it again, but i coulda sworn that was mitriones
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:08 AM GMT
diaz price drifted in from 2.22 to 1.8
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:08 AM GMT
In the 1st and 2nd nothing much happened

Kongo was totally dominant in the 3rd  . Fair winner surely
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:08 AM GMT
joe summed it up pretty well there
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
nothing happened but matt was totally dominant in rounds 1 and 2 so how can 1 judge give all 3 rounds to kongo is the question tobe
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
yeh the 3rd was obv kongo smashed matt up but...
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
damn judges, wish i'd greened outnow
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:11 AM GMT
had my profit on that match that was going on diaz here...
Report ItchyDon October 30, 2011 3:11 AM GMT
I didn't bet on this fight Whoops but I thought Kongo would win I couldn't figure out why Mitrione was fav.  I've got Penn in roung 2 or 3, preferably 3.
Report EastLower Gooner October 30, 2011 3:11 AM GMT
Thought Kongo won that fair and square. Mitrione threw that away. needs to seriously grow up. Kongo too experienced. You don't seem him joking with his corner in between rounds.
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:12 AM GMT
yeh he won the fight fair, but were saying how can kongo win all 3 rounds when he clearly didnt!
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:13 AM GMT
I wouldn;t say he was 'totally dominant' as no one dominated because nothing really happned in rounds 1&2

On the 10 points must boxing format if you gave to give 10-9 rounds then i suppose you could give both to Mitrione . But IMO that is a dubious system anyway and Congo did far more in the 3rd than MM did in the whole fight.

As the system is though i can't see why  anyone gave Congo Rounds 1&2 , both drawn tounds fairly
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:13 AM GMT
think penn will win, but this is one of the more intriguing fight's i've ever seen
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
i feel really strongly about diaz winning! think he will cause an upset here!
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
mma scoring is based on a boxing 10 point scoring system though tobermory, thats why i thought mitrione won
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
even i have heard of  Penn and Diaz, interesting fight
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:15 AM GMT
hope there will be some money in play for this fight
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:17 AM GMT
bj does not look as in good shape as diaz..
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:17 AM GMT
diaz is 1 ugly mofo but wouldnt like to tell him that lol
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:18 AM GMT
yeah Razz, i take your point, but i think Boxing scoring is not something UFC should be copying . It is particulary stupid for 3 round fights .

Under Boxing scoring Mitrione probably should have won but Kongo won the fight as he had a dominant 4 minutes and the other 11 minutes Mitrione just shaded nothing much
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
yeh but thats not how ufc is scored tobe
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
roop in the first fight based on that should have won also
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:20 AM GMT
tobermory, ufc have absolutely no say over how the fights are judged and they openly critisize how it is
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:22 AM GMT
diaz needs to look up and not get caught
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:22 AM GMT
great start from bj
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:24 AM GMT
anybody would think bj had the 6 inch reach advantage
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:26 AM GMT
rd1 bj
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
Penn is a master at all forms of fighting

Very good boxer

Would have backed Diaz but these Skybet mugs haven't settled my fat guy bet

glad of that as  Penn looks a level above to me
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:28 AM GMT
dont think it matters who wins what rounds though as the judges dont obv use that system!
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:30 AM GMT
bj looks gassed allready
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:30 AM GMT
bj hurt
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:30 AM GMT
goooo diaz
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
bj getting the **** beaten out of him
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
I saw  Dana White criticise how they score UFC fights

If you just think of it as a 15 minute fight though, rather than individual rounds, then i think Kongo won fair and square, as he did have a dominant spell.
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
DIAZZZZZZZZZZ
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:32 AM GMT
bj is done.. hurt and gassed!
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:32 AM GMT
1.24 wow buying money
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:33 AM GMT
really good fight this

Diaz is so tough, great 2nd round, need immense effortr from Penn now
Report ItchyDon October 30, 2011 3:33 AM GMT
wowsers!! Diaz Stamina too much, he's still 100%
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:34 AM GMT
bj is gassed
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:35 AM GMT
how tough is penn!!
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:36 AM GMT
pure boxing match now
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:36 AM GMT
bj looks like he is going to cry
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
LoveLove DIAZZZZZZZ LoveLove
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
great fight
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
nobody agreed with me that diaz was the real deal!
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
terrible gameplan by penn
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:39 AM GMT
bj was gassed 1 min into the 2nd round!
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:39 AM GMT
Respect to those 2 guys, both got hurt bad but showed no quit whatever

Diaz the winner surely IMO, though great courage from Penn
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:40 AM GMT
Razz. yeah couldn't see why  Penn wanted to just have a stand up fight
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:41 AM GMT
guys if you looked into this pre fight you would have seen what i saw too.. diazzzz was never gonna lose!
Report tobermory October 30, 2011 3:42 AM GMT
BJ has retired
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:43 AM GMT
Love credit to BJ, thanks for all your great fights man Love
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:46 AM GMT
been reading a few other forums too, most are agreeing that roop got robbed in the first match!
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:46 AM GMT
that was a weird match up, diaz will get wrestle**** by a lot of people in the division whereas pen could fend a lot of wrestlers off
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:49 AM GMT
been a pleasure tonight razz, shame about roop but a good night!
Report razz October 30, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
been a good night, penn lost me a lot, overall im slightly down, but it could of been worse. good fights though
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
yeh matt lost me half my profit on the night and gutted about roop but diaz fight was amazing
Report SCHNUCK October 30, 2011 3:57 AM GMT
razz can you answer my question in the other thread ufc 138 if you can please.
Report u want some October 30, 2011 10:58 AM GMT
When is this getting repeated ?
Report razz October 30, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
cant see any listings on espn, guess its not getting repeated
Report mehmet j mook October 31, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
kongo won me a bit but penn lost me alot,penn is a better fighter imo but his cardio is a real problem,never really considered it either,semtex caused diaz loads of problems and i expected penn to smash him.
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