ITT

Would think Frank will need to be at least level with Voeckler after tomorrow. Evans will put a few minutes into Voeckler on ITT and prob more on Andy. Schlecks will need to get another minute on Evans tomorrow which at least he knows, should really just stick like glue to whichever Schleck is leading.

wait....how much time do you think evans is putting into andy

if Andy can do a similar TT like last year not much, but that was extraordinary for him, both Schlecks are rather inconsistent in TT, that makes the winner's market a lottery imo

By the sounds of it at least 3-5 minutes, not a sniff!

Evans wont put 3-5 minutes into Andy lizard, as i said it'll probably be more than 2 minutes but not much.

OH, I thought you said "Evans will put a few minutes into Voeckler and prob more on Andy.........." Oh, wait you did!!

a few is generally considered to be 3-4 michael

Evans made 2' on Voeckler in the Dauphine TT - who do you think did improve his form more and who is going to be more exhausted?

no way Evans can put 3 min into Andy...I think Evans is riding great,  and BMC came eq 2nd in Team Trial, which would mean Evans is trialing great..i think it be between 40sec to 1.40sec Evans will have over Andy

I can see Frank taking 2 or 3 mins out of Evans tomorrow.One had a conmfortable day today the other a hard one,and i feel that will show tomorrow.
Evans bad value for overall imo.Will be one of the Schlecks now i think.

2 or 3 min as if it's nothing...

Lol at people talking about Frank Schleck as if he is Laurent Fignon.
If I was Cadel I would stick to Andy Schleck and say to Frank "if you are good enough to win by 2 minutes then fair play".
Andy Schleck is a massive lay at the minute, if Frank is good enough to go away then Andy's chance is rapidly disappearing over the horizon and there is nothing he can do about it.

MeatIsMurder..i believe your right...Frank will go tomorrow, but Frank a class belowe the others

Andy would like to have more time on Evans, because at 57sec, he need to ride a very good ITT

Just saying in relation to the kind of day Evans and F schleck had today.
I dont think 2 or 3 mins is nothing,but i do feel that cos Frank had a fairly comfortable day today compared to Evans,that he will find it easier to gain time tomorrow.
Its all about how much time Evans can get before Saturday.I thought the Schlecks between them would sort the tour over these 2 days,and so far it looks good and the plan is working.One down one to go.
Mind you Evans is one gutsy fellow,so is Tommy v by the way.

Voeckler is an absolute monster, would love him to win it.
I really believe Andy and Frank being in the same team is detrimental to the both of them.

Yeh i have heard people say that about the Schleks,and its a good point,but today worked well for them and tomorrow could as well.If they work together they should be an asset for each other,but yes at times they have seemed to hinder each other.
Think most of us would like to see Tommy v win,would be great,alas tomorrow will see him gone i feel.

have to disagree strongly on a Voeckler win (talking through my pocket[;)])

Voeckler looked exhausted at the end of today and Evans also put a lot of effort in.  I think that Andy Schleck had a pretty easy day considering that he gained over 2 minutes.  He took a very soft lead on the second climb and had a lot of useful help later on.  Alp d'Huez suits explosive climbers which Evans is not and Andy Schleck is.  It is also a short stage so I could see Andy Schleck taking more time from Evans to nail it before the ITT.  I think that Frank will only go if Andy is stuffed and will concentrate on annoying Evans.

I am not sure Andy had an easy time today especially as he lost a minute in the last km.
People's book talking vry loudly on here tonight, I have no interest in the outright betting and I would say I am amazed Frank is 5x bigger price than Andy.
Leopard trek seem happy to have two darts at the win and if Frank gets away tomorrow, Andy cannot chase him.

it was a great ride by Andy, but he ws knackered on the last k, we'll see how he recovers.

i think today was andy schlecks big day in the tour. i dont see him as the overall winner. think its between evans and voeckler - they've both got a lot of heart and that counts for a lot

The team want the tour,and will do the right thing by them not the brothers.Expect Frank to go today and Andy to do what Frank did yesterday.Thats the way to beat Evans who now is the only threat to Leopard Trek.

I don't see how voeckler can possibly win, he is knackered.

The way I see today panning out is similar to yesterday except you can swap the two Schlecks around and I expect Frank to leave it until later, probably the base of Alpe D'Huez.

I can't see Voeckler, Evans or Andy staying with him. If it does pan out like that at least Evans can regain time in the TT, Voeckler won't.

It's between the two Schlecks for me, and I favour Frank, with Evans the only danger.

Think Cunego will have a big ride as well today, came 2nd to Frank on Alpe D'Huez last time, think he is a good ew bet for the stage an possible podium.

Frank or voeckler? backed frANK TOP 3 HAS HE GOT ENOUGH IN HAND OR SHOULD I BACK VOECKLER OR CONTADOR? ANY THOUGHT S APPRECIATED

def between Franck and AC imo, can't see Voeckler making it after losing too much time today, Tommy even must be aware of Cunego.