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24 Nov 09
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And I will get around to making logical comments on the subject idc.
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This should be a short fred as I imagine that Avram Grant will go odds on and be appointed in days.
We shall see. |
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article6930634.ece
Darren Ferguson The son of Sir Alex is the bookmakers favourite and is available after parting company with Peterborough United, where he showed impressive potential with two promotions. Avram Grant Perhaps still in the box seat, especially if Portsmouth are unable to find a suitable alternative. Took Chelsea to the Champions League final two seasons ago. Alan Curbishley Recently won a legal battle with West Ham United after his departure last year, since when he has been linked with the posts at Portsmouth and Sunderland. Would jump at the chance. Slaven Bilic The Croatia coach and former West Ham United defender held talks with one of the consortium that considered buying Portsmouth in the summer. Guus Hid*****An outsider and would be courted for bigger posts after his exploits at many clubs, including Chelsea. His contract with Russia, who did not qualify for the World Cup finals, expires this summer. Steve Coppell Turned down an opportunity to take over at Southampton soon after he left Reading in the summer. |
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I suspect a quickie too.
Really can't see it being Ferguson but the money on him will be of interest. I've had a couple of suggestions that it will be him but nothing too firm. |
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Betfair Customer Services 25 Nov 10:15
Please be aware that we will not be offering a market in relation to the Next Portsmouth Manager. Betfair Soccer I sense a cop out, shame. |
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As soon as it happened I said Grant as his work permit is ready any day now. Harry Redknapp said give it to Grant and Harry's as close to Portsmouth/Storrie as possible.
As for Ferguson, his daddy always says you should choose a chairman when picking a club to manage. I'm sure he'll be telling his son to go nowhere near it. Or, at least, he should be doing so. |
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Real cop out. Maybe portsmouth told them to feck off for any official confirmations after the last time. Still poor though.
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I seem to recall some confusion on this market last time around. Or was it the manager to go market that they ended up voiding?
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They voided Kinnear when Shearer was appointed
With Pompey they left the market open as Hart was temp but they then had to go back to Pompey when the club phoned them to get their staff paid out. A real mess and I'm less than surprised that they wanted nothing to do with this. Shame though as Ferguson looks like he was a great early lay. |
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I store so much information that sometimes I think my brain might explode. But many thanks to you Ernesto, you are my Encyclopedia Brittanica on all subjects betfair and manager related.
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Shame betfair has cut access to a lot of the old managers threads on gubbed. There was a lot of great info on those.
I saw Spalletti pretty short thing morning for the Pompey job at 8/1. Last year I could have reeled off his complete Cv but today I'd completely forgotten who he was.... |
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I saw Spalletti pretty short thing morning for the Pompey job at 8/1. Last year I could have reeled off his complete Cv but today I'd completely forgotten who he was....
I checked that out. No bet after consulting. After all if you are going to back with bookies with no opportunity to lay then you need to be very sure. |
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Avram down to 1.44 now.
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By Lawrence Donegan in the Guardian
Will the real Lwrence Donegan reveal himself please :D Familiarity bred contempt for Portsmouth's next manager stakes Whenever a Premier League managerial vacancy arises the same old names are thrown into the hat Darren Ferguson's emergence as the bookies' favourite for the Portsmouth job raises questions about Pompey's thinking. The geniuses behind modern public transportation haven't quite cracked inter-planetary travel, although it occasionally seems like they have. For instance, when you step on a flight to the US Paul Hart is the man in charge at Portsmouth, doing a diligent job in the most difficult of circumstances, while Darren Ferguson is a promising young manager, recently unemployed after a rough start in the Championship with Peterborough United. Disembark a few hours later and Hart has been sacked and Ferguson is apparently in the running to replace him a bewildering turn of events to which there is only one response: "What planet am I on?" One answer could be a planet ruled by bookies, who in only a few short years have developed from slightly disreputable gumshoes into all-seeing, all-knowing oracles, whose word should be ignored at the risk of penury. "To say it's been one-way traffic is an understatement," said the man from Ladbrokes yesterday, describing the flow of money for Ferguson. We have heard this sort of thing before, and not just in football. At the start of the year, when the golfing press was casting around aimlessly for the identity of the 2010 Ryder Cup captain, something stirred on the betting exchanges. Money was placed on the unlikely figure of Colin Montgomerie and, lo, within a day or so Monty was appointed Ryder Cup captain. Yet there is always hope for those who are uncomfortable with the notion of omnipotent bookies. Remember when Harry Redknapp was the prohibitive favourite to take over at Newcastle United? It never happened, and with the news that Avram Grant is in talks over the Portsmouth job it seemed like those who sunk the kids' present money on the Ferguson rumour will have some explaining to do come Christmas morning. Still, at this stage in the Fratton Park tragicomedy, it is wise not to assume anything other than the fact that surely even those who have steered the club into its current predicament must know what it needed is a fresh voice with fresh ideas, someone who can command the instant respect of the players. If that sounds impossible, then think again. The template has been established at Craven Cottage, where Roy Hodgson arrived in December 2007 with Fulham similarly imperilled, and he transformed the club. Grant might not be in Hodgson's class few are but at least he almost fits the bill. None of this is to say Ferguson is a bad manager. He appears to be anything but, as he proved in leading Peterborough to promotions in successive years. Had this been the start of the season and were Portsmouth inclined to take a risk on the promise of youth, then he would have been an interesting choice. But with the season nearly halfway done and the club staring at the financially ruinous prospect of relegation, the notion that an ingénue is the best man to turn things round was so ridiculous that you had to ask: "What exactly is going on here?" The most obvious answer and the most mean-spirited one would be to argue that nepotism is at work; the notion that because Ferguson's father, Sir Alex, is a managerial genius then he will be similarly blessed. True or otherwise, it is hardly Darren Ferguson's fault that some people confuse the business of football management, where bloodlines mean little, with the business of thoroughbred racing, where they mean everything. In any case, if he owed everything to his famous name how come he was summarily dismissed by Peterborough and replaced by Mark Cooper, whose previous managerial experience was limited to non-league football? No, the answer does not lie in the particular, with the former Peterborough manager's unexpected emergence as a candidate to become Portsmouth's saviour, but in the general, where every managerial vacancy in this country is greeted with a list of familiar figures, all of them members of an enchanted club the "next manager club" of which Darren is apparently the newest member. Looking at some of the other names supposedly in the running to take over at Fratton Park it was hard not to weep: Alan Curbishley, Gary McAllister, David O'Leary, Steve Coppell. God preserve us all. Is English football really suffering from such a dearth of homegrown talent that the principal attribute required by any candidate for a managerial position is a weary familiarity? One hopes the answer is no, but one fears that it could be yes. |
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Would I be right in thinking Ladbrooks aren't paying out on Grant yet as he's not yet been granted a work permit?
Only got a little on (thanks to their limits) but don't like waiting for my money. |
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not sure Templeton as I only use betfair for these markets. I'd have thought he wouldn't be able to manage the team tomorrow without the permit.
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I would've used here but no market. The Ferguson rumour was nonsense in my view and was fairly certain from the beginning that they'd have Avram.
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