GSP and Dan Hardy....Could be the TUF11 coaches

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Just means we have to wait forever for them to fight. GSP hasn't fought since July, if he's a coach on this then could see about a year between title defences. Which is a very bad move by the UFC.

Brock's out and he hasn't defended his title since the July card either.

Anderson hasn't defended his since August and looking like Feb for his next defence which is 6 months.

I think they need to step up the number of title defences. I actually would like to see another division, and this is one of the reasons why.

There is no need for another division considering Zuffa own WEC.

TUF 11 coaches = Tito Ortiz and Forrest Griffin (NAP)

I'm not sure what Zuffa's ownership of the WEC has to do with it. I'm sure the WEC will become part of the UFC one day but Dana's said it's not on the cards for now.

No heavyweight, middleweight, or welterweight (which is 3/5 titles) defences in a 6+ month spell is not a good move by the UFC.

I'm starting to notice people moan about the quality of some of the cards (I don't agree with them) and I think it's owing to a lack of 5-round/title fights. I'm an advocate of a division around the 220-225 mark.

contradicting yourself a touch there,your complaining about the fights regrading title shots and then criticising others who are complaining about the recent cards,im not that fussed myself about seeing title matches,put 2 men in the octagon and ill watch it,i just love mma. Not too sure i want any other weight divisions either,i think alot of what is wrong with boxing comes from too many weight divisions and too many belts.

I'm not sure how I'm contradicting myself.

If the sport does not have any title fights then it will suffer as the casual fan will lose a little interest. I'm the same, I watch all the fights but the UFC cannot become complacent. I don't want more title fights for me but to help the sport grow.

Boxing has so many titles as they know people will pay to watch a fight just because it's for a title. However, one of the worst things about boxing is that it has a plethora of titles and so they become almost meaningless.

I think there are 17 weight classes in boxing and 4 major organisations which means 68 titles. The UFC has 5 titles and think it would benefit having one more.

Spot the gap: 155; 170; 185; 205; and 265. On a proportional basis the increases go +9.7%; +8.8%; +10.8%; +29.3%. Think it's fairly clear the gap between 205 and 265 is just too much.

A weight class of 225lb would fit the gap perfectly. Would also lead to 2 or 3 more title fights a year, which would help fill in gaps, would help the sport get more fans but not go anywhere near the mess that boxing has found itself in.

you make some good points and fair enough your entitled to your opinion and i can see where your coming from with the titles shots helping the sport grow,i myself dont really care if its a title shot or not,i look forward to fights like hardy vs swick and kos vs johnson for weeks and them not being title matches dont bother me at all. I think in a way people will look forward to a title match more if there isnt one everytime and would make the belt mean more,i love it when there is a dominant champ like GSP,Silva and maybe Machida in the future and would much prefer it to the title swapping about willy nilly,thats only my opinion though.

boxing in a mess??? Wouldnt let sj hear you saying that! It'll open up a can of worms again! :)

I'm not sure what Zuffa's ownership of the WEC has to do with it.

Oh dear. Let me help. Zuffa own WEC. Zuffa own UFC.

WEC has divisions for 135lbs, 145lbs and 155lbs.

UFC has divisions for 155lbs, 170lbs, 185lbs, 205lbs and 265lbs.

Now given that Dana has said there is simply no need for a 195lb divisions as it would needlessly weaken the middleweight and lightheavyweight divisions, and that there would be no cruiserweight division introduced at 230lbs because there are not enough fighters to fight at that weight to merit it, plus pointing out that this discussion only came around in the last year because Randy Couture (who would be a cruiserweight) was made to look like a little girl when Lesnar took the heavyweight title off him and saying those competing at 265 are true MMA heavyweights. Given this, the only way to introduce a new division is to go down in weight. But because the WEC looks after Featherweight and Bantamweight, there is no need for any new weightclasses.

Hope this helps.

I agree,having a feather or bantam weight division would be a bit pointless in the UFC considering zuffa own both.

also better to maintain the WEC brand...it has a very good cult following that they could capitailse on.

i think another prob with new weight classes is where will it end...the other day they were talking about a new 195lb division for guys like Rich Franklin, Wanderlei etc....but then people started talking about one between welterweight and middlewight and then one for the super heavy weights.....never going to end.

comeonkautostar 27 Jul 15:37

ELG, I disagree about having a 195 division, 20lbs between middle and lightheavy is ok imo. What I want to see is a superheavy division. 205lbs to 265lbs is far too big a difference for one weight class imo. Lesnar has an unreal advantage at walking around at about 275 and onlt having to shed 10lbs. He is fighting guys stones lighter than him which sort of takes away from having weightclasses at all.

Coks - calling for another weight division? Seems a little familiar yet somewhat contradictory. Almost identical to what I suggested and you sneered at.

I will be responding to your condescending (and confused) post when I find the time. Hopefully some time tomorrow.

I have changed my mind since then, given the level of argument presented against it by many, not least Dana White, who has been very vocal on the issue. Put simply, a better argument was put to me and it has convinced me I was wrong 4 months ago. Not the first time, won't be the last.

No confusion on my part at all.

In your post, perhaps you can name plenty of fighters that would fight at 205-230lbs good enough to warrant a whole new entire division? Then name all those left good enough to fight between 230-265lbs to warrent a division there. Finally, you can try to make your argument better by explaining how this would not weaken and dilute the light heavyweight and heavyweight divisions and why you would prefer to see three weaker champions of weaker divisions at 205, 230 and 265 instead of a strong champ of a stacked division at 205 and a strong champ of a good division at 265.