UFC 105

rnd 1 to Kang

kang getting battered in rnd 2

Well done Bisping.

That was a great comeback from Bisping

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excellent quality
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will this fight be any good,is hardy english?

hardy is english yes, i think he might just win this

I think he has a shot here at the prices.

thanks lads

Laid the sh*t out of Swick so come on Hardy.

mike will be too good here, good first round from hardy though

susp??

poor fight :-(

Fair play to Hardy, he's come on a ton.

This isnt the Mike Swick we have watched for the past few years.

Woot go Hardy!

Swick was so poor. And he thinks he'll take on the champ?

fair play to dan, looked really solid,surprised me big time, but gsp!!!!!nah

GSP better watch out ... Hardy looked incredible.

Georges would murder him

If GSP is 1.2x vs Hardy, I am motherhumping-lumpingon!!!

He'll wrestle him silly then poud him out or else snap his arm off.

not sure about that ... GSP wouldn't last a round if it turned into a kickboxing match, and Hardy's wrestling looked really good there.

ffs

Despite the improvement he's miles away from GSP imo.

What do make of this one, can Randy roll back the years once more?

randy all day long

if vera fights to win rather than not to lose, he ought to TKO the HGH'd up old man.

vera for me, and i am thinking KO aswell, could be a good weekend for philipeneo fighters

Oh class walk on Randy, Kashmir!

Randy usually performs best after a long lay off. Id be concerned. I want him to win and I think under normal circumstances, i.e. he isnt coming down from heavyweight, he isnt after a war with Minotauro, he'd beat Vera, but im not sure about tonight. It would be 3 defeats in a row for him. Vera will be motivated like never before, and that was a problem for him. Really is as close to 50/50 as you can get, so im going to have a small play on Randy at the odds. Hoping he can outwrestle him and dirty box him for a points win. Will need to keep it a tight fight and not allow Vera to fight at distance, otherwise he could be Muay Thai-d out of it.

squatting-tiger 14 Nov 22:13
if vera fights to win rather than not to lose, he ought to TKO the HGH'd up old man.

Thats slanderous and a disgrace.

Think I'll still this one out and just cheer on RC.

46 blimey he's a fit lad

Ermmmmmm wat the f u ck are they doing up against the fence all the time.....Randy just wants to lean on him against the fence

Randy really looking to bore his way to victory here.

do you score points for pinning your man up against the fence,ie if you are aggressor of that move,would you get the round if nothing else was done?

You get points for Octagon control and aggression. Knew this would be Randy's plan. If he stands and trades, he'd be in trouble.

cheers so colture is in front at the moment

Randy nearly finished there!

any links?

Im on Randy, but he needs to take him to the ground, get posture and work from half guard. Then he wins the fight.

http://sport.dnevnik.hr/rubrika/ufc/uzivo

1-1?

GO ON NATURAL!!

Yea, 19-19, Randy taking this round so far

Controlling him with grappling and dirty boxing, his forte

Vera with huge body Muay Thai shots

Vera won this surely

Vera on mount :-(

Vera wins by a round imo

That's tough to call, think they'll give it to Randy though

29-28 Vera imo

Was right to get on at odds against, very cose fight, but lost nontheless

vera did way more damage, but i expect the judges will give it to couture for .... pressing him against the cage.

Have to say, all in all, that was the worst UFC Ive ever seen.

Pretty sh1te.

disgusting..

that is shocking

worse than Boxing :D

** decision (as usual).

These judges eh?

surely that bloke vera won that?

3-0 never

Randy got it. Hmmm....very little in it, but Id have given it to Vera.

Glad 105's over.

lol shows how much i know

laughable

WTF

Wouldnt say laughable, it was a close fight. It came down to the last round, and Id have given it to Vera.

Vera won 2 rounds clearly though

Won 1 clealry, lost 1 clealry, won the other just about imo

ok 1-1 going into the last round , but Vera won the 3rd clearly surely

vera not a happy bunny

If you knock someone down,stagger the guy, then surely you should have the round , even if for 3 minutes the other guy doing better grappling

Gotta love Rogan, always very honest about blatantly ** judging.

Couture was better at wrestling/grappling , but at no point was Vera ever close to being submitted

While Vera looked close to getting a TKO a couple of times

tobs

first time i have really watched it,2nd round when vera kicked him in the guts i thought colture was gonna turn it in.
As said i dont know the rules/scoring but all colture seemed to do was push him to the fence

fight judged on these criteria...

Effective Striking, Grappling, Aggression, and Octagon Control

with those in mind you can see why Couture gets the decision but MMA judging is completely fooked imo.

that bloke who interviews the fighters afterwards,seemed to be alluding to that fact that the judging recently had been a bit 'ify'

10 point must doesn't work for 3 round fights.

mauricio 'shogun' rua clearly defeated lyoto 'the dragon' machida ... but probably the worst decision of any big fight in any combat sport i've ever seen was awarded to machida.

really scandalous.

can they score a round 10 -10?

that's what they were alluding to.

yes

thanks mate

Yes they can score a round 10-10 but it's rare, you see VERY few draws in the UFC.

squatting-tiger 14 Nov 22:53
mauricio 'shogun' rua clearly defeated lyoto 'the dragon' machida ... but probably the worst decision of any big fight in any combat sport i've ever seen was awarded to machida.

Do you enjoy spending your time typing utter sh1te? There have been so many worse than that in the last few years alone, it makes your comment a joke. I had the Rua/Dragon fight a draw, many had it a 1 round victory for Rua. The judges give it a 1 round win for Machida. Hardly a terrible and blatently obvious decision. MMA is a very young sport and it is to be expected that some problems like these occur. As the sport evolves, the judging will improve leaps and bounds. Plus at a lot of MMA events, it is boxing judges. They don't understand whats going on on the ground. They think if you are on top, even though you are more than likely in your opponents guard, you are doing great and they give you the round for it.

Check out all the judges decisions in boxing contests in Germany every few months. The Lewis/Holyfield I decision. The Manny Pac/JMM decision. The Mayweather/Castillo I decision. De La Hoya was in a couple vs Trinidad and Whitaker. I could go on and on. Have a look at the Tyson Fury/John McDermott boxing contest in September. McDermott really won the fight by about 4 rounds, yet Fury got the decision. There are millions of others I could allude to, but as that is so recent and in every combat sports fans mind as the one fight which shows how inept some judging is, I'll leave you with that one.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/sep/14/mcdermott-fury-english-heavyweight-boxing

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comeonkautostar 15 Nov 01:07


squatting-tiger 14 Nov 22:53
mauricio 'shogun' rua clearly defeated lyoto 'the dragon' machida ... but probably the worst decision of any big fight in any combat sport i've ever seen was awarded to machida.

Do you enjoy spending your time typing utter sh1te?

:) :) :) :) :) :) Have to agree with kauto,you talk alot of tripe!

Shogun vs Machida a draw? which rounds did you give to Machida?

ok night for me in the end changed a few for value

backed kang lost
backed wilks lost

backed couture (got lucky)
backed Pearson ( wow what a performance)
backed Hardy

backed bisping-won
backed swick KO-lost (how wrong was i!!!)

Good night overall though,mike won me a nice wedge!

Mixed results for me
Backed Randy pts
Bisping main bet
Siver

Lost on
Wilks
Swick KO

Small profit on the event

I actually thought Randy won 2/3 rounds by controlling Vera, admittedly the only damage was done by Vera in the 2nd, pretty poor fight overall.

Lets Hope we get GSP V Hardy at the Nottingham Arena!!!!!

Just back.

Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooved it.

Sooooooooooo HAPPY.

you know I had a big bet on Bisping at Evens.

Well I got to meet him after and shook his hand :x

the immortal words from elg - DUDE YOU WON ME LOADS TONIGHT!!!

hahaha

Thought Swick won 29-28. Thats how I scored it.

no idea how Hardy got two judges to score it 30-27. no way.

Well done though...big win and its GSP next.

disappointed the GSP chant only last for 5 seconds.....

As for Couture.

Love him...but he's got to be embarrased to have that as at win when he got his ARSE HANDED TO HIM.

total ownage by Vera...I actually scored it 30-26!!!! 26!!! thats right. I thought the first round was 10-8 to Vera.

never really bought into the whole brandon vera thing...but I like him now. fine performance. hope he picks himself up quickly.

i had randy 29-28, funny how things work out eh?

Jeez elg i hope they dont ever let you anywhere neat the judjes scorecards! No way did swick win that, the 1st round was very hard to score and could have gone either way after that the last two were defo hardy rounds.

As for vera a 10-8 round seriously???? I had couture winning 29-28, Vera should have stopped him in the 2nd but Randy dominated the 1st and 3rd although it was a boring way to win a fight, thought Vera did very little but resist the takedown attempts very well

Okay I'm now watching the replays off MMAcore and I can see what you mean...especially about Mike Swick...got it wrong. makes me appreciate the problems the judges have.

Yeah it can be a very difficult job at times i would imagine some fights are very hard to score.

I think the scoring system needs a rethink for mma tho, the boxing way of 10-9 rounds just doesnt seem to work for mma because its not so straight foward, theres a lot to consider during a 5min round

i had hardy 30-27 and randy 29-28 aswell,Hardy picked him apart,no chance that could have gone any other way!

man I wouldve loved it if GSP had said after the fight...

I'm glad you won Dan but I'm not impressed with your performance

wouldve died laughing imo

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL who stole Randy's hat.

u bandits u!!!!

prob one of the many scratters that inhabit manchester! :)

Not really sure how they gave Randy that decision. Vera did serious damage on several occasions, and actually got the only takedown of the fight...Randy wins for leaning on the cage.