NFL 2019-20 season

8	New England Patriots		22	Pittsburgh Steelers		50	Jacksonville Jaguars		140	Buffalo Bills
9	Kansas City Chiefs		23	Green Bay Packers		50	San Francisco 49ers		160	Denver Broncos
12	New Orleans Saints		27	Dallas Cowboys		60	Carolina Panthers		210	Oakland Raiders
13.5	Los Angeles Rams		30	Minnesota Vikings		85	Tennessee Titans		220	New York Giants
14	Philadelphia Eagles		34	Baltimore Ravens		85	New York Jets		340	Cincinnati Bengals
15.5	Los Angeles Chargers		34	Seattle Seahawks		90	Indianapolis Colts		400	Washington Redskins
21	Cleveland Browns		38	Houston Texans		100	Tampa Bay Buccaneers		450	Arizona Cardinals
21	Chicago Bears		42	Atlanta Falcons		120	Detroit Lions		650	Miami Dolphins

Saints to make up for last year's terrible non call, Eagles to start firing with a fully fit Carson Wentz and at a price Baltimore, they don't have the depth of individual talent that some teams may have but impress as a collective unit and they could go well at big odds.

NFL pull out in the Racing Post today for anyone interested.

Its back

I'm going with Saints to do the job this season. Eagles may step up again for a saver bet

Patriots in from 8 to 6.2 with AB

4.6	New England Patriots 3-0		75	Indianapolis Colts 2-1
6.4	Kansas City Chiefs 3-0		95	Atlanta Falcons 1-2
10	Los Angeles Rams 3-0		100	Jacksonville Jaguars 1-2
12.5	Dallas Cowboys 3-0		110	Detroit Lions 2-0-1
17	Green Bay Packers 3-0		150	Carolina Panthers 1-2
17	New Orleans Saints2-1		170	Tennessee Titans 1-2
21	Baltimore Ravens 2-1		190	Pittsburgh Steelers 0-3
26	San Francisco 49ers 3-0		340	New York Giants 1-2
27	Minnesota Vikings 2-1		390	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1-2
29	Philadelphia Eagles 1-2		680	Denver Broncos 0-3
32	Chicago Bears 2-1		860	Oakland Raiders 1-2
38	Los Angeles Chargers 1-2		900	New York Jets 0-3
44	Seattle Seahawks 2-1		920	Arizona Cardinals 0-2-1
46	Houston Texans 2-1		950	Washington Redskins 0-3
50	Cleveland Browns 1-2		1000	Cincinnati Bengals 0-3
65	Buffalo Bills 3-0		1000	Miami Dolphins 0-3

I tend to agree.

I'm happy to be red on the Patriots. Nine months ago the consensus was that they were in the death throes of the dynasty. Obviously that was premature, but since then they have lost Gronk and without much else added on personnel we had pundits saying they are stronger than ever and could go 16-0. I expect them to be 13-3 at best and performing at a level that will make them underdogs v the Chiefs.

The Chiefs were my pick amongst the Top 6 contenders and they are as expected.

My 2 biggest bets on Day 1 were Atlanta who are the biggest disappointment and I have redded out on, and Chicago who I am not sure what to make of, but still hopeful.

The Rams look vulnerable but I still rate them better than Dallas or Philadelphia, who I don't think are any better than last year. Green Bay look quite poor despite their record. I think the 49ers, currently 3-0, will finish about 8-8 so I have them biggest red. The Saints I am not convinced about, but agree the high 20s odds for a couple of days after Week 3 were generous. Now perhaps an overreaction to them beating overhyped Dallas.

The longshot I backed most before the start was Detroit and I'm happy with them.

In the AFC I do think Baltimore were overrated based on beating 2 of the worst teams ever. Against stronger teams they never looked like winning. This past week I feel the Chargers have been best value. The Bills I expect will be like Miami last year; starting 3-0 but ended up 7-9 or so.

Overall I think the majority of the teams with good starts have been flattered somewhat. With 5 terrible teams in the league that will win 0, 1 or 2 games each, there could be about 19 teams with winning records going into the last week, and very close races in most divisions, with some 10-6 teams missing the play offs.

turn the NOS green please tobes.

3.85	New England Patriots 6-0		85	Cleveland Browns 2-4
8.6	New Orleans Saints 5-1		110	Pittsburgh Steelers 2-4
10.5	Kansas City Chiefs 4-2		110	Los Angeles Chargers 2-4
11.5	San Francisco 49ers 5-0		130	Detroit Lions 2-2-1
16	Green Bay Packers 5-1		170	Oakland Raiders 3-2
22	Houston Texans 4-2		240	Jacksonville Jaguars 2-4
24	Seattle Seahawks 5-1		260	New York Jets 1-4
26	Minnesota Vikings 4-2		270	New York Giants 2-4
26	Philadelphia Eagles 3-3		300	Denver Broncos 2-4
30	Dallas Cowboys 3-3		340	Tennessee Titans 2-4
32	Baltimore Ravens 4-2		500	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2-4
34	Los Angeles Rams 3-3		750	Atlanta Falcons 1-5
38	Chicago Bears 3-2		790	Arizona Cardinals 2-2-1
50	Carolina Panthers 4-2		1000	Washington Redskins 1-5
55	Buffalo Bills 4-1		1000	Cincinnati Bengals 0-6
60	Indianapolis Colts 3-2		1000	Miami Dolphins 0-5

have you turned those Saints green yet tobes?

Wow someone just took everything on the Patriots down to 3.05 because Mahomes hurt his knee

This is my position pre Week 11

148.83	New England Patriots		550.77	Indianapolis Colts
298.90	Baltimore Ravens		349.04	Buffalo Bills
3.79	New Orleans Saints		142.46	Cleveland Browns
220.24	San Francisco 49ers		1,572.73	Tennessee Titans
50.05	Kansas City Chiefs		535.71	Jacksonville Jaguars
255.27	Green Bay Packers		227.49	Detroit Lions
101.64	Seattle Seahawks		17.85	Chicago Bears
185.36	Minnesota Vikings		28.70	New York Giants
392.52	Houston Texans		313.60	Denver Broncos
253.29	Philadelphia Eagles		11.12	New York Jets
218.28	Dallas Cowboys		228.86	Tampa Bay Buccaneers
472.63	Pittsburgh Steelers		19.99	Atlanta Falcons
292.69	Oakland Raiders		1,266.26	Arizona Cardinals
242.84	Carolina Panthers		4,409.62	Washington Redskins
47.57	Los Angeles Rams		113.34	Cincinnati Bengals
217.83	Los Angeles Chargers		115.62	Miami Dolphins

Before Week 14

3.95	Baltimore Ravens 10-2		160	Pittsburgh Steelers7-5
6.6	New England Patriots 10-2		240	Los Angeles Rams 7-5
7	New Orleans Saints 10-2		520	Chicago Bears 6-6
8.8	San Francisco 49ers 10-2		620	Indianapolis Colts 6-6
11	Seattle Seahawks 10-2		770	Cleveland Browns 5-7
12.5	Kansas City Chiefs 8-4		840	Oakland Raiders 6-6
20	Green Bay Packers 9-3		1000	New York Jets 4-8
34	Houston Texans 8-4		1000	Los Angeles Chargers 4-8
36	Minnesota Vikings 8-4		1000	Jacksonville Jaguars4-8
42	Dallas Cowboys 6-6		1000	Carolina Panthers 5-7
48	Buffalo Bills 9-3		1000	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5-7
65	Philadelphia Eagles 5-7		1000	Washington Redskins 3-9
100	Tennessee Titans 7-5		1000	Denver Broncos 4-8

3.2	Baltimore Ravens 14- 2
5.2	San Francisco 49ers 13- 3
6.2	Kansas City Chiefs 12- 4
8.6	New Orleans Saints 13- 3
15	Green Bay Packers 13- 3
18	New England Patriots 12- 4
34	Seattle Seahawks 12- 4
50	Philadelphia Eagles 9- 7
50	Houston Texans 10- 6
65	Tennessee Titans 9- 7
65	Minnesota Vikings 10- 6
70	Buffalo Bills 10- 6

let's go those Saints!

The Saints and Patriots going out was bad for me. Don't want any more upsets this weekend (other than Ravens of course)

Basically wanting the Ravens to lose one of 3 games. Unless they get in a big hole and comeback after I green on them.

Great Superbowl matchup we can be all be excited about. Fascinating tactically. The 49ers have been brilliant all season and had it all to do with their schedule in the second half of the season. Big wins away to the Saints and Seahawks and have been dominant in the post season. Can easily argue they are the best team in the NFL this year, but I agree with the Chiefs being faves. They stopped the run of the rampaging Henry (nice pre season call by yours truly in the opening post ) and if they can do the same against the 49ers and force he game to be an aerial battle they hold a clear edge. Bosa may be the most important man on the field in the Superbowl, brilliant rookie campaign, might need to do to Mahomes what Von Miller did to Cam Newton to get the 49ers over the line.

Can't wait for it.