NFL 2019-20 season

I've traded in and out the Browns. In before OBJ, and out after. On a free roll. Backed the Chiefs and can't let a season go by without falling for Green Bay. My main bets have been Mahomes most passing yards and most touchdowns along with Miami under 4.5 wins.

Good luck to all who wager

8	New England Patriots		22	Pittsburgh Steelers		50	Jacksonville Jaguars		140	Buffalo Bills
9	Kansas City Chiefs		23	Green Bay Packers		50	San Francisco 49ers		160	Denver Broncos
12	New Orleans Saints		27	Dallas Cowboys		60	Carolina Panthers		210	Oakland Raiders
13.5	Los Angeles Rams		30	Minnesota Vikings		85	Tennessee Titans		220	New York Giants
14	Philadelphia Eagles		34	Baltimore Ravens		85	New York Jets		340	Cincinnati Bengals
15.5	Los Angeles Chargers		34	Seattle Seahawks		90	Indianapolis Colts		400	Washington Redskins
21	Cleveland Browns		38	Houston Texans		100	Tampa Bay Buccaneers		450	Arizona Cardinals
21	Chicago Bears		42	Atlanta Falcons		120	Detroit Lions		650	Miami Dolphins

likewise Lance re Browns unfortunately was going to have more on but the OBJ trade put paid to that.

Having said that I think the AFC North will prove very difficult to win having 3 very good teams (and Cincy will probably be better than the odds suggest)

Saints to make up for last year's terrible non call, Eagles to start firing with a fully fit Carson Wentz and at a price Baltimore, they don't have the depth of individual talent that some teams may have but impress as a collective unit and they could go well at big odds.

NFL pull out in the Racing Post today for anyone interested.

Atlanta Falcons @40

Its back

Chicago and Atlanta are my 2 main picks, though I'll probably back and lay every team.

I'm going with Saints to do the job this season. Eagles may step up again for a saver bet

The only backs I had so far are Baltimore (48) and Seattle (40) but I'm struggling to make much of a case for either now I come to think of it.  Baltimore was mainly from the angle of 2nd season QB being open to improvement but Jackson doesn't fill me with much confidence overall and it could be a tough division.  Seattle was mainly price vs strength of roster

Patriots in from 8 to 6.2 with AB

And 5.6 now after thrashing the Steelers without AB. I fear only injuries will stop them, will anyone really be surprised if they lure Gronk out of retirement midway through the season as well?

4.6	New England Patriots 3-0		75	Indianapolis Colts 2-1
6.4	Kansas City Chiefs 3-0		95	Atlanta Falcons 1-2
10	Los Angeles Rams 3-0		100	Jacksonville Jaguars 1-2
12.5	Dallas Cowboys 3-0		110	Detroit Lions 2-0-1
17	Green Bay Packers 3-0		150	Carolina Panthers 1-2
17	New Orleans Saints2-1		170	Tennessee Titans 1-2
21	Baltimore Ravens 2-1		190	Pittsburgh Steelers 0-3
26	San Francisco 49ers 3-0		340	New York Giants 1-2
27	Minnesota Vikings 2-1		390	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1-2
29	Philadelphia Eagles 1-2		680	Denver Broncos 0-3
32	Chicago Bears 2-1		860	Oakland Raiders 1-2
38	Los Angeles Chargers 1-2		900	New York Jets 0-3
44	Seattle Seahawks 2-1		920	Arizona Cardinals 0-2-1
46	Houston Texans 2-1		950	Washington Redskins 0-3
50	Cleveland Browns 1-2		1000	Cincinnati Bengals 0-3
65	Buffalo Bills 3-0		1000	Miami Dolphins 0-3

What have we learned 4 weeks in?

For me I'm not convinced on New England, have essentially had 3 byes thus far and the Bills away who had the backup QB in the second half. The Chiefs clearly the team to beat in the AFC for mine, but I suppose all the Pats have to do at the moment is win, which they've done. Their second half of the season the schedule gets real.

In the NFC, not a great deal to get excited about. New Orleans winning without Brees is big, be some nervous Nellys out there who laid big odds after week 2. Massive win for the Eagles on the road last week, 2-2 and could be 0-4 (or 4-0). Once they get healthy they'll be a tough out. For me the pre season betting looks spot on atm, Chiefs and Pats in AFC and Sanits/Eagles in NFC.

Rams look to be stuck in gear, that Todd Gurley contract looks disastrous.

I tend to agree.

I'm happy to be red on the Patriots. Nine months ago the consensus was that they were in the death throes of the dynasty. Obviously that was premature, but since then they have lost Gronk and without much else added on personnel we had pundits saying they are stronger than ever and could go 16-0. I expect them to be 13-3 at best and performing at a level that will make them underdogs v the Chiefs.

The Chiefs were my pick amongst the Top 6 contenders and they are as expected.

My 2 biggest bets on Day 1 were Atlanta who are the biggest disappointment and I have redded out on, and Chicago who I am not sure what to make of, but still hopeful.

The Rams look vulnerable but I still rate them better than Dallas or Philadelphia, who I don't think are any better than last year. Green Bay look quite poor despite their record. I think the 49ers, currently 3-0, will finish about 8-8 so I have them biggest red. The Saints I am not convinced about, but agree the high 20s odds for a couple of days after Week 3 were generous. Now perhaps an overreaction to them beating overhyped Dallas.

The longshot I backed most before the start was Detroit and I'm happy with them.

In the AFC I do think Baltimore were overrated based on beating 2 of the worst teams ever. Against stronger teams they never looked like winning. This past week I feel the Chargers have been best value. The Bills I expect will be like Miami last year; starting 3-0 but ended up 7-9 or so.

Overall I think the majority of the teams with good starts have been flattered somewhat. With 5 terrible teams in the league that will win 0, 1 or 2 games each, there could be about 19 teams with winning records going into the last week, and very close races in most divisions, with some 10-6 teams missing the play offs.

This is my position currently. There a a dozen or so I try and keep green, or red for now, but I switch on a lot of them. Not an option for Arizona or Washington now

270.53	New England Patriots		1,403.79	Indianapolis Colts
473.69	Kansas City Chiefs		379.08	Atlanta Falcons
289.41	Los Angeles Rams		397.38	Jacksonville Jaguars
235.82	Dallas Cowboys		1,760.75	Detroit Lions
198.66	Green Bay Packers		147.33	Carolina Panthers
88.38	New Orleans Saints		460.38	Tennessee Titans
97.86	Baltimore Ravens		418.38	Pittsburgh Steelers
527.98	San Francisco 49ers		1,562.86	New York Giants
214.73	Minnesota Vikings		353.99	Tampa Bay Buccaneers
143.67	Philadelphia Eagles		171.97	Denver Broncos
478.33	Chicago Bears		651.91	Oakland Raiders
581.29	Los Angeles Chargers		47.38	New York Jets
429.99	Seattle Seahawks		1,124.63	Arizona Cardinals
415.71	Houston Texans		4,267.99	Washington Redskins
292.45	Cleveland Browns		29.78	Cincinnati Bengals
392.38	Buffalo Bills		27.38	Miami Dolphins ]

turn the NOS green please tobes.

AFC looks pats/chiefs & bar 2
NFC I haven't been that impressed by anybody & realistically 6-8 teams in that side have a live chance of making the superdish

3.85	New England Patriots 6-0		85	Cleveland Browns 2-4
8.6	New Orleans Saints 5-1		110	Pittsburgh Steelers 2-4
10.5	Kansas City Chiefs 4-2		110	Los Angeles Chargers 2-4
11.5	San Francisco 49ers 5-0		130	Detroit Lions 2-2-1
16	Green Bay Packers 5-1		170	Oakland Raiders 3-2
22	Houston Texans 4-2		240	Jacksonville Jaguars 2-4
24	Seattle Seahawks 5-1		260	New York Jets 1-4
26	Minnesota Vikings 4-2		270	New York Giants 2-4
26	Philadelphia Eagles 3-3		300	Denver Broncos 2-4
30	Dallas Cowboys 3-3		340	Tennessee Titans 2-4
32	Baltimore Ravens 4-2		500	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2-4
34	Los Angeles Rams 3-3		750	Atlanta Falcons 1-5
38	Chicago Bears 3-2		790	Arizona Cardinals 2-2-1
50	Carolina Panthers 4-2		1000	Washington Redskins 1-5
55	Buffalo Bills 4-1		1000	Cincinnati Bengals 0-6
60	Indianapolis Colts 3-2		1000	Miami Dolphins 0-5

Arizona are 2-3-1 of course.

have you turned those Saints green yet tobes?

Nah I am 237 red on them now.

They seem too short to be backing. I don't think Brees will be as amazing as expected, and I can back them when they lose a couple.

400 red on Patriots. That's fine too, can't see how they'd be shorter than 3.1 even if they were already in the conference final.

Oakland or Detroit would be 6-0 with the Pats schedule.

I went green on the 49ers and have hundreds green on most other contenders.

Wow someone just took everything on the Patriots down to 3.05 because Mahomes hurt his knee

4.4	New England Patriots 8-1		130	Indianapolis Colts 5-4
8.4	Baltimore Ravens 7-2		140	Buffalo Bills 6-3
8.6	New Orleans Saints 7-2		200	Cleveland Browns 3-6
8.8	San Francisco 49ers 8-1		210	Tennessee Titans 5-5
13	Kansas City Chiefs 6-4		300	Jacksonville Jaguars4-5
14	Green Bay Packers 8-2		680	Detroit Lions 3-5-1
18.5	Seattle Seahawks 8-2		680	Chicago Bears 4-5
22	Minnesota Vikings 7-3		1000	New York Giants 2-8
25	Houston Texans 6-3		1000	Denver Broncos 3-6
26	Philadelphia Eagles 5-4		1000	New York Jets 2-7
34	Dallas Cowboys 5-4		1000	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3-6
65	Pittsburgh Steelers 5-4		1000	Atlanta Falcons 2-7
65	Oakland Raiders 5-4		1000	Arizona Cardinals 3-6-1
90	Carolina Panthers 5-4		1000	Washington Redskins 1-8
100	Los Angeles Rams 5-4		1000	Cincinnati Bengals 0-9
110	Los Angeles Chargers 4-6		1000	Miami Dolphins 2-7

This is my position pre Week 11

148.83	New England Patriots		550.77	Indianapolis Colts
298.90	Baltimore Ravens		349.04	Buffalo Bills
3.79	New Orleans Saints		142.46	Cleveland Browns
220.24	San Francisco 49ers		1,572.73	Tennessee Titans
50.05	Kansas City Chiefs		535.71	Jacksonville Jaguars
255.27	Green Bay Packers		227.49	Detroit Lions
101.64	Seattle Seahawks		17.85	Chicago Bears
185.36	Minnesota Vikings		28.70	New York Giants
392.52	Houston Texans		313.60	Denver Broncos
253.29	Philadelphia Eagles		11.12	New York Jets
218.28	Dallas Cowboys		228.86	Tampa Bay Buccaneers
472.63	Pittsburgh Steelers		19.99	Atlanta Falcons
292.69	Oakland Raiders		1,266.26	Arizona Cardinals
242.84	Carolina Panthers		4,409.62	Washington Redskins
47.57	Los Angeles Rams		113.34	Cincinnati Bengals
217.83	Los Angeles Chargers		115.62	Miami Dolphins

Ravens v Seahawks Superbowl for me.

In which case it is hats off to GoBallistic

Before Week 14

3.95	Baltimore Ravens 10-2		160	Pittsburgh Steelers7-5
6.6	New England Patriots 10-2		240	Los Angeles Rams 7-5
7	New Orleans Saints 10-2		520	Chicago Bears 6-6
8.8	San Francisco 49ers 10-2		620	Indianapolis Colts 6-6
11	Seattle Seahawks 10-2		770	Cleveland Browns 5-7
12.5	Kansas City Chiefs 8-4		840	Oakland Raiders 6-6
20	Green Bay Packers 9-3		1000	New York Jets 4-8
34	Houston Texans 8-4		1000	Los Angeles Chargers 4-8
36	Minnesota Vikings 8-4		1000	Jacksonville Jaguars4-8
42	Dallas Cowboys 6-6		1000	Carolina Panthers 5-7
48	Buffalo Bills 9-3		1000	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5-7
65	Philadelphia Eagles 5-7		1000	Washington Redskins 3-9
100	Tennessee Titans 7-5		1000	Denver Broncos 4-8

don't sleep on those Saints

3.2	Baltimore Ravens 14- 2
5.2	San Francisco 49ers 13- 3
6.2	Kansas City Chiefs 12- 4
8.6	New Orleans Saints 13- 3
15	Green Bay Packers 13- 3
18	New England Patriots 12- 4
34	Seattle Seahawks 12- 4
50	Philadelphia Eagles 9- 7
50	Houston Texans 10- 6
65	Tennessee Titans 9- 7
65	Minnesota Vikings 10- 6
70	Buffalo Bills 10- 6

This is my position, factoring in settled bets.

74.78	Baltimore Ravens		180.23	Seattle Seahawks
369.27	San Francisco 49ers		81.32	Philadelphia Eagles
404.73	Kansas City Chiefs		829.70	Houston Texans
428.22	New Orleans Saints		141.15	Tennessee Titans
169.21	Green Bay Packers		166.70	Minnesota Vikings
398.96	New England Patriots		94.43	Buffalo Bills

let's go those Saints!

turn those saints red

2.98	Baltimore Ravens
4.5	Kansas City Chiefs
4.7	San Francisco 49ers
11.5	Green Bay Packers
18.5	Seattle Seahawks
19.5	Minnesota Vikings
36	Tennessee Titans
42	Houston Texans

My position on outright

169.45	Baltimore Ravens
456.37	Kansas City Chiefs
430.28	San Francisco 49ers
372.89	Green Bay Packers
180.57	Seattle Seahawks
161.36	Minnesota Vikings
254.11	Tennessee Titans
665.24	Houston Texans

The Saints and Patriots going out was bad for me. Don't want any more upsets this weekend (other than Ravens of course)

Basically wanting the Ravens to lose one of 3 games. Unless they get in a big hole and comeback after I green on them.

This is my position

373.62	San Francisco 49ers
306.61	Kansas City Chiefs
311.33	Tennessee Titans
317.72	Green Bay Packers

Lost a lot of KC green laying them while 0-24. I thought they'd come back and was gonna back them, but I was expecting it to be a gradual thing.

Great Superbowl matchup we can be all be excited about. Fascinating tactically. The 49ers have been brilliant all season and had it all to do with their schedule in the second half of the season. Big wins away to the Saints and Seahawks and have been dominant in the post season. Can easily argue they are the best team in the NFL this year, but I agree with the Chiefs being faves. They stopped the run of the rampaging Henry (nice pre season call by yours truly in the opening post ) and if they can do the same against the 49ers and force he game to be an aerial battle they hold a clear edge. Bosa may be the most important man on the field in the Superbowl, brilliant rookie campaign, might need to do to Mahomes what Von Miller did to Cam Newton to get the 49ers over the line.

Can't wait for it.