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therhino
03 Sep 19 11:27
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For a bit of fun before it all starts, who y'all got?

I'll put up the Rams and the Chiefs.

Smokey of the year: Titans - looking for a monster season from Derrick Henry.
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Report Lance in France September 3, 2019 2:36 PM BST
I've traded in and out the Browns. In before OBJ, and out after. On a free roll. Backed the Chiefs and can't let a season go by without falling for Green Bay. My main bets have been Mahomes most passing yards and most touchdowns along with Miami under 4.5 wins.

Good luck to all who wager
Report tobermory September 3, 2019 8:49 PM BST
8 New England Patriots 22 Pittsburgh Steelers 50 Jacksonville Jaguars 140 Buffalo Bills
9 Kansas City Chiefs 23 Green Bay Packers 50 San Francisco 49ers 160 Denver Broncos
12 New Orleans Saints 27 Dallas Cowboys 60 Carolina Panthers 210 Oakland Raiders
13.5 Los Angeles Rams 30 Minnesota Vikings 85 Tennessee Titans 220 New York Giants
14 Philadelphia Eagles 34 Baltimore Ravens 85 New York Jets 340 Cincinnati Bengals
15.5 Los Angeles Chargers 34 Seattle Seahawks 90 Indianapolis Colts 400 Washington Redskins
21 Cleveland Browns 38 Houston Texans 100 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 450 Arizona Cardinals
21 Chicago Bears 42 Atlanta Falcons 120 Detroit Lions 650 Miami Dolphins
Report sewter lives again September 3, 2019 10:01 PM BST
likewise Lance re Browns unfortunately was going to have more on but the OBJ trade put paid to that.

Having said that I think the AFC North will prove very difficult to win having 3 very good teams (and Cincy will probably be better than the odds suggest)
Report Somerset Sam September 5, 2019 5:29 AM BST
Saints to make up for last year's terrible non call, Eagles to start firing with a fully fit Carson Wentz and at a price Baltimore, they don't have the depth of individual talent that some teams may have but impress as a collective unit and they could go well at big odds.

NFL pull out in the Racing Post today for anyone interested.
Report Steamship September 6, 2019 1:15 AM BST
Atlanta Falcons @40
Report england_v_south_afri September 6, 2019 1:17 AM BST
Its back LaughCool
Report tobermory September 6, 2019 1:28 AM BST
Chicago and Atlanta are my 2 main picks, though I'll probably back and lay every team.
Report loui September 6, 2019 11:53 AM BST
I'm going with Saints to do the job this season. Eagles may step up again for a saver bet
Report GoBallistic September 7, 2019 7:08 PM BST
The only backs I had so far are Baltimore (48) and Seattle (40) but I'm struggling to make much of a case for either now I come to think of it.  Baltimore was mainly from the angle of 2nd season QB being open to improvement but Jackson doesn't fill me with much confidence overall and it could be a tough division.  Seattle was mainly price vs strength of roster
Report tobermory September 8, 2019 1:11 AM BST
Patriots in from 8 to 6.2 with AB
Report therhino September 9, 2019 9:00 AM BST
And 5.6 now after thrashing the Steelers without AB. I fear only injuries will stop them, will anyone really be surprised if they lure Gronk out of retirement midway through the season as well?
Report tobermory September 27, 2019 1:39 AM BST
4.6 New England Patriots 3-0 75 Indianapolis Colts 2-1
6.4 Kansas City Chiefs 3-0 95 Atlanta Falcons 1-2
10 Los Angeles Rams 3-0 100 Jacksonville Jaguars 1-2
12.5 Dallas Cowboys 3-0 110 Detroit Lions 2-0-1
17 Green Bay Packers 3-0 150 Carolina Panthers 1-2
17 New Orleans Saints2-1 170 Tennessee Titans 1-2
21 Baltimore Ravens 2-1 190 Pittsburgh Steelers 0-3
26 San Francisco 49ers 3-0 340 New York Giants 1-2
27 Minnesota Vikings 2-1 390 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1-2
29 Philadelphia Eagles 1-2 680 Denver Broncos 0-3
32 Chicago Bears 2-1 860 Oakland Raiders 1-2
38 Los Angeles Chargers 1-2 900 New York Jets 0-3
44 Seattle Seahawks 2-1 920 Arizona Cardinals 0-2-1
46 Houston Texans 2-1 950 Washington Redskins 0-3
50 Cleveland Browns 1-2 1000 Cincinnati Bengals 0-3
65 Buffalo Bills 3-0 1000 Miami Dolphins 0-3
Report therhino October 3, 2019 1:27 PM BST
What have we learned 4 weeks in?

For me I'm not convinced on New England, have essentially had 3 byes thus far and the Bills away who had the backup QB in the second half. The Chiefs clearly the team to beat in the AFC for mine, but I suppose all the Pats have to do at the moment is win, which they've done. Their second half of the season the schedule gets real.

In the NFC, not a great deal to get excited about. New Orleans winning without Brees is big, be some nervous Nellys out there who laid big odds after week 2. Massive win for the Eagles on the road last week, 2-2 and could be 0-4 (or 4-0). Once they get healthy they'll be a tough out. For me the pre season betting looks spot on atm, Chiefs and Pats in AFC and Sanits/Eagles in NFC.

Rams look to be stuck in gear, that Todd Gurley contract looks disastrous.
Report tobermory October 4, 2019 12:42 AM BST
I tend to agree.

I'm happy to be red on the Patriots. Nine months ago the consensus was that they were in the death throes of the dynasty. Obviously that was premature, but since then they have lost Gronk and without much else added on personnel we had pundits saying they are stronger than ever and could go 16-0. I expect them to be 13-3 at best and performing at a level that will make them underdogs v the Chiefs.

The Chiefs were my pick amongst the Top 6 contenders and they are as expected.

My 2 biggest bets on Day 1 were Atlanta who are the biggest disappointment and I have redded out on, and Chicago who I am not sure what to make of, but still hopeful.

The Rams look vulnerable but I still rate them better than Dallas or Philadelphia, who I don't think are any better than last year. Green Bay look quite poor despite their record. I think the 49ers, currently 3-0, will finish about 8-8 so I have them biggest red. The Saints I am not convinced about, but agree the high 20s odds for a couple of days after Week 3 were generous. Now perhaps an overreaction to them beating overhyped Dallas.

The longshot I backed most before the start was Detroit and I'm happy with them.

In the AFC I do think Baltimore were overrated based on beating 2 of the worst teams ever. Against stronger teams they never looked like winning. This past week I feel the Chargers have been best value. The Bills I expect will be like Miami last year; starting 3-0 but ended up 7-9 or so.

Overall I think the majority of the teams with good starts have been flattered somewhat. With 5 terrible teams in the league that will win 0, 1 or 2 games each, there could be about 19 teams with winning records going into the last week, and very close races in most divisions, with some 10-6 teams missing the play offs.
Report tobermory October 4, 2019 1:05 AM BST
This is my position currently. There a a dozen or so I try and keep green, or red for now, but I switch on a lot of them. Not an option for Arizona or Washington now Blush

270.53 New England Patriots 1,403.79 Indianapolis Colts
473.69 Kansas City Chiefs 379.08 Atlanta Falcons
289.41 Los Angeles Rams  397.38 Jacksonville Jaguars
235.82 Dallas Cowboys 1,760.75 Detroit Lions
198.66 Green Bay Packers 147.33 Carolina Panthers
88.38 New Orleans Saints 460.38 Tennessee Titans
97.86 Baltimore Ravens 418.38 Pittsburgh Steelers
527.98 San Francisco 49ers 1,562.86 New York Giants
214.73 Minnesota Vikings 353.99 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
143.67 Philadelphia Eagles  171.97 Denver Broncos
478.33 Chicago Bears  651.91 Oakland Raiders
581.29 Los Angeles Chargers 47.38 New York Jets
429.99 Seattle Seahawks 1,124.63 Arizona Cardinals
415.71 Houston Texans 4,267.99 Washington Redskins
292.45 Cleveland Browns 29.78 Cincinnati Bengals
392.38 Buffalo Bills 27.38 Miami Dolphins ]
Report wisewords October 4, 2019 3:29 AM BST
turn the NOS green please tobes.
Report wondersobright October 4, 2019 12:36 PM BST
AFC looks pats/chiefs & bar 2
NFC I haven't been that impressed by anybody & realistically 6-8 teams in that side have a live chance of making the superdish
Report tobermory October 17, 2019 2:18 AM BST
3.85 New England Patriots 6-0 85 Cleveland Browns 2-4
8.6 New Orleans Saints 5-1 110 Pittsburgh Steelers 2-4
10.5 Kansas City Chiefs 4-2 110 Los Angeles Chargers 2-4
11.5 San Francisco 49ers 5-0 130 Detroit Lions 2-2-1
16 Green Bay Packers 5-1 170 Oakland Raiders 3-2
22 Houston Texans 4-2 240 Jacksonville Jaguars 2-4
24 Seattle Seahawks 5-1 260 New York Jets 1-4
26 Minnesota Vikings 4-2 270 New York Giants 2-4
26 Philadelphia Eagles 3-3 300 Denver Broncos 2-4
30 Dallas Cowboys 3-3 340 Tennessee Titans 2-4
32 Baltimore Ravens 4-2 500 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2-4
34 Los Angeles Rams 3-3 750 Atlanta Falcons 1-5
38 Chicago Bears 3-2 790 Arizona Cardinals 2-2-1
50 Carolina Panthers 4-2 1000 Washington Redskins 1-5
55 Buffalo Bills 4-1 1000 Cincinnati Bengals 0-6
60 Indianapolis Colts 3-2 1000 Miami Dolphins 0-5
Report tobermory October 17, 2019 2:19 AM BST
Arizona are 2-3-1 of course.
Report wisewords October 17, 2019 8:13 PM BST
have you turned those Saints green yet tobes?
Report tobermory October 17, 2019 9:22 PM BST
Nah I am 237 red on them now.

They seem too short to be backing. I don't think Brees will be as amazing as expected, and I can back them when they lose a couple.

400 red on Patriots. That's fine too, can't see how they'd be shorter than 3.1 even if they were already in the conference final.

Oakland or Detroit would be 6-0 with the Pats schedule.

I went green on the 49ers and have hundreds green on most other contenders.
Report tobermory October 18, 2019 2:42 AM BST
Wow someone just took everything on the Patriots down to 3.05 because Mahomes hurt his knee
Report tobermory November 14, 2019 8:04 PM GMT
4.4 New England Patriots 8-1 130 Indianapolis Colts 5-4
8.4 Baltimore Ravens 7-2 140 Buffalo Bills 6-3
8.6 New Orleans Saints 7-2 200 Cleveland Browns 3-6
8.8 San Francisco 49ers 8-1 210 Tennessee Titans 5-5
13 Kansas City Chiefs 6-4 300 Jacksonville Jaguars4-5
14 Green Bay Packers 8-2 680 Detroit Lions 3-5-1
18.5 Seattle Seahawks 8-2 680 Chicago Bears 4-5
22 Minnesota Vikings 7-3 1000 New York Giants 2-8
25 Houston Texans 6-3 1000 Denver Broncos 3-6
26 Philadelphia Eagles 5-4 1000 New York Jets 2-7
34 Dallas Cowboys 5-4 1000 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3-6
65 Pittsburgh Steelers 5-4 1000 Atlanta Falcons 2-7
65 Oakland Raiders 5-4 1000 Arizona Cardinals 3-6-1
90 Carolina Panthers 5-4 1000 Washington Redskins 1-8
100 Los Angeles Rams 5-4 1000 Cincinnati Bengals 0-9
110 Los Angeles Chargers 4-6 1000 Miami Dolphins 2-7
Report tobermory November 14, 2019 9:15 PM GMT
This is my position pre Week 11

148.83 New England Patriots 550.77 Indianapolis Colts
298.90 Baltimore Ravens 349.04 Buffalo Bills
3.79 New Orleans Saints 142.46 Cleveland Browns
220.24 San Francisco 49ers 1,572.73 Tennessee Titans
50.05 Kansas City Chiefs 535.71 Jacksonville Jaguars
255.27 Green Bay Packers 227.49 Detroit Lions
101.64 Seattle Seahawks 17.85 Chicago Bears
185.36 Minnesota Vikings 28.70 New York Giants
392.52 Houston Texans 313.60 Denver Broncos
253.29 Philadelphia Eagles 11.12 New York Jets
218.28 Dallas Cowboys 228.86 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
472.63 Pittsburgh Steelers 19.99 Atlanta Falcons
292.69 Oakland Raiders 1,266.26 Arizona Cardinals
242.84 Carolina Panthers 4,409.62 Washington Redskins
47.57 Los Angeles Rams 113.34 Cincinnati Bengals
217.83 Los Angeles Chargers 115.62 Miami Dolphins
Report equine flew November 26, 2019 9:22 PM GMT
Ravens v Seahawks Superbowl for me.

In which case it is hats off to GoBallistic
Report tobermory December 6, 2019 1:04 AM GMT
Before Week 14

3.95 Baltimore Ravens 10-2 160 Pittsburgh Steelers7-5
6.6 New England Patriots 10-2 240 Los Angeles Rams 7-5
7 New Orleans Saints 10-2 520 Chicago Bears 6-6
8.8 San Francisco 49ers 10-2 620 Indianapolis Colts 6-6
11 Seattle Seahawks 10-2 770 Cleveland Browns 5-7
12.5 Kansas City Chiefs 8-4 840 Oakland Raiders 6-6
20 Green Bay Packers 9-3 1000 New York Jets 4-8
34 Houston Texans 8-4 1000 Los Angeles Chargers 4-8
36 Minnesota Vikings 8-4 1000 Jacksonville Jaguars4-8
42 Dallas Cowboys 6-6 1000 Carolina Panthers 5-7
48 Buffalo Bills 9-3 1000 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5-7
65 Philadelphia Eagles 5-7 1000 Washington Redskins 3-9
100 Tennessee Titans 7-5 1000 Denver Broncos 4-8
Report wisewords December 6, 2019 1:37 AM GMT
don't sleep on those Saints
Report tobermory January 1, 2020 1:29 AM GMT
3.2 Baltimore Ravens 14- 2
5.2 San Francisco 49ers 13- 3
6.2 Kansas City Chiefs 12- 4
8.6 New Orleans Saints 13- 3
15 Green Bay Packers 13- 3
18 New England Patriots 12- 4
34 Seattle Seahawks 12- 4
50 Philadelphia Eagles 9- 7
50 Houston Texans 10- 6
65 Tennessee Titans 9- 7
65 Minnesota Vikings 10- 6
70 Buffalo Bills 10- 6
Report tobermory January 1, 2020 1:44 AM GMT
This is my position, factoring in settled bets.

74.78 Baltimore Ravens 180.23 Seattle Seahawks
369.27 San Francisco 49ers 81.32 Philadelphia Eagles
404.73 Kansas City Chiefs 829.70 Houston Texans
428.22 New Orleans Saints 141.15 Tennessee Titans
169.21 Green Bay Packers 166.70 Minnesota Vikings
398.96 New England Patriots 94.43 Buffalo Bills
Report wisewords January 1, 2020 6:39 PM GMT
let's go those Saints!
Report wondersobright January 5, 2020 9:26 PM GMT
turn those saints red
Report wisewords January 5, 2020 9:37 PM GMT
AngrySad
Report tobermory January 11, 2020 8:48 PM GMT
2.98 Baltimore Ravens
4.5 Kansas City Chiefs
4.7 San Francisco 49ers
11.5 Green Bay Packers
18.5 Seattle Seahawks
19.5 Minnesota Vikings
36 Tennessee Titans
42 Houston Texans


My position on outright


169.45 Baltimore Ravens
456.37 Kansas City Chiefs
430.28 San Francisco 49ers
372.89 Green Bay Packers
180.57 Seattle Seahawks
161.36 Minnesota Vikings
254.11 Tennessee Titans
665.24 Houston Texans
Report tobermory January 11, 2020 8:50 PM GMT
The Saints and Patriots going out was bad for me. Don't want any more upsets this weekend (other than Ravens of course)

Basically wanting the Ravens to lose one of 3 games. Unless they get in a big hole and comeback after I green on them.
Report tobermory January 19, 2020 8:36 PM GMT
This is my position

373.62 San Francisco 49ers
306.61 Kansas City Chiefs
311.33 Tennessee Titans
317.72 Green Bay Packers


Lost a lot of KC green laying them while 0-24. I thought they'd come back and was gonna back them, but I was expecting it to be a gradual thing.
Report therhino January 20, 2020 11:21 AM GMT
Great Superbowl matchup we can be all be excited about. Fascinating tactically. The 49ers have been brilliant all season and had it all to do with their schedule in the second half of the season. Big wins away to the Saints and Seahawks and have been dominant in the post season. Can easily argue they are the best team in the NFL this year, but I agree with the Chiefs being faves. They stopped the run of the rampaging Henry (nice pre season call by yours truly in the opening post Cool) and if they can do the same against the 49ers and force he game to be an aerial battle they hold a clear edge. Bosa may be the most important man on the field in the Superbowl, brilliant rookie campaign, might need to do to Mahomes what Von Miller did to Cam Newton to get the 49ers over the line.

Can't wait for it.
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