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Schedule courtesy of CBS:
Saturday, January 16

Chiefs at Patriots (-5), 4:35 p.m. ET (CBS) -- The Chiefs throttled the Texans 30-0 during the wild-card round and now get one of the hardest draws you can land in football, facing the Patriots off a bye in Gillette.

Packers at Cardinals (-6.5), 8:15 p.m. ET (NBC) -- When the Seahawks won they secured a spot in Carolina due to their status as the lower seed. Green Bay gets to run back the Week 16 bloodbath in Arizona where Aaron Rodgers was sacked eight times.

Sunday January 17

Seahawks at Panthers (-2.5), 1:05 p.m. ET (FOX) -- The Seahawks knocked the Panthers out of the playoffs last year and now Carolina gets a shot at revenge with Seattle playing at 10 a.m. PT for the second-straight week.

Steelers at Broncos (-5.5), 4:40 p.m. ET (CBS) -- The Broncos are heavy favorites early with Ben Roethlisberger (shoulder) and Antonio Brown (concussion) both dealing with injury. Peyton Manning might get a shot at a playoff run after all.

Thoughts?
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Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 10:36 PM GMT
only seen as strong bet because of Steelers injuries. Steelers beat them in Denver only a few weeks ago, not a string bet by any means imo. Full strength I'd go Steelers but level of injuries I favoured Broncos
Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 10:37 PM GMT
*strong*
Report Whisperingdeath January 17, 2016 10:38 PM GMT
i was a little surprised to see Steelers at 4.45-5.0 as the game got going. To be honest was too scared to smash the sheite out of a Denver lay as this is not my sport and figured everybody else knew better or something I didn't. Sometimes the King has no clothes and today still might be one of those days. Thought Steelers were strong coming into playoffs and looked good last week. Backed Steelrs at 4.5 and 2.88 but only small bets
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 10:41 PM GMT
WHY DO U NOT THROW THE BALL U BELLEND
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 10:41 PM GMT
WHY BEN WHY
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 10:42 PM GMT
markets are priced up on recent hisotrical success in playoffs
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 10:42 PM GMT
hence why the Panthers were so big to beat the Seahawks
Report mikenichols January 17, 2016 10:48 PM GMT
Thanks, guys.
Report Only-the-Brave January 17, 2016 10:48 PM GMT
Denver receivers not shown up yet - loads of dropped catches. Expect them to get it together and win well enough in the end tbh.
Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 10:50 PM GMT
Market really jumping around on change of possession - over-reacting each time
Report Sudoku_Junior January 17, 2016 10:52 PM GMT
Mike - During the playoffs i always find it useful to remember that the the teams in the playoffs are by in large the best teams in football. This is especially true of this divisional weekend. It would be no surprise if either team won and therefore as a generic rule teams should be priced as such.
Report jucel69 January 17, 2016 10:55 PM GMT
The amount of people who get cleaned up on the sidelines is unreal. Surprised an old timer hasn't been killed!
Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 11:01 PM GMT
Market love for Broncos unreal 1.62 there - don't care if they score TD
Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 11:02 PM GMT
Happy
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:08 PM GMT
seaking you here?
Report themightymac January 17, 2016 11:14 PM GMT
Steelers HT/FT @ 11/2 should I lay off?

Also had Steelers to lead 4-6 HT @ 12/1. That FG cost me big time Cry
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 11:23 PM GMT

Jan 17, 2016 -- 5:08PM, wisewords wrote:


seaking you here?


yeh

Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 11:23 PM GMT
Come on Steelers, few first downs now will be nice - little panic in the market
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:24 PM GMT
you still believe in the Broncnos?
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:26 PM GMT
CAHRGE!!!!!!!
Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 11:26 PM GMT
exactly, that'll do
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:28 PM GMT
big 3rd down coming up
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:30 PM GMT
13-9 Steelers!
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 11:34 PM GMT
been watching the golf!
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 11:34 PM GMT
does big ben want it?
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:36 PM GMT
what golf is going on?
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:36 PM GMT
it's a close game seaking.
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 11:37 PM GMT
pga tour
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 11:37 PM GMT
405
Report themightymac January 17, 2016 11:42 PM GMT
Steelers punter is rubbish. Barely fifty yards with the wind. Big Peter McCloy would have kicked it out the other end of the stadium!
Report Wallflower January 17, 2016 11:49 PM GMT
Omaha -  dink for 5 yards, or overthrown if going for 1sr downCool
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:52 PM GMT
seaking, Peyton needs to drop down to the BDNO. he can't win in the PDC anymore
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 11:58 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report GRANTCKING January 17, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
who wins
Report mikenichols January 17, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
Am only following this via the odds etc. but it seems the Steelers are the likeliest to win. Is that right?
Report wisewords January 17, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
Steelaz
Report mikenichols January 17, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
Am only following this via the odds etc. but it seems the Steelers are the likeliest to win. Is that right?
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:00 AM GMT
stealaz
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:00 AM GMT
nobody knows Mike. Steelers looking better, but 4th quarter is 'money time' in the NFL so it's all down to what happens in the next 30 to 40 minutes
Report mikenichols January 18, 2016 12:02 AM GMT
OK, thx. I took a very strong tip for the Broncos on board and it's FAR harder than I'd imagined from the picture I was given!
Report jucel69 January 18, 2016 12:03 AM GMT
What a sh1t punt
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:04 AM GMT
a playoff game like this isn't the place to go hunting free money. although the Patriots yesterday and the Panthers today were heavily fancied and both delivered
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:04 AM GMT
Cardinals/Packers was a coinflip, and so is this.
Report themightymac January 18, 2016 12:04 AM GMT
That punter is carp.
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:07 AM GMT
lol "this cannot be reviewed" classic NFL
Report themightymac January 18, 2016 12:09 AM GMT
It's a joke. If he had jumped on him, it would have been a p a penalty
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:10 AM GMT
AHAHAHAHA
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:11 AM GMT
Steelaz!!!
Report Wallflower January 18, 2016 12:13 AM GMT
happy that it is, but why is that touchback
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:16 AM GMT
OH MY
Report milla445 January 18, 2016 12:17 AM GMT
What a ****g mong
Report Whisperingdeath January 18, 2016 12:18 AM GMT
agreed!
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:19 AM GMT
oh my
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:20 AM GMT
I think feel sick for steelza
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:21 AM GMT
oh my
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:21 AM GMT
offside
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:24 AM GMT
oh my
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:24 AM GMT
RIP pittsburgh steela\
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:26 AM GMT
TOUCHDOWN
Report Wallflower January 18, 2016 12:27 AM GMT
mmm, all set up for BBHappy
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:28 AM GMT
7up
Report mikenichols January 18, 2016 12:31 AM GMT
I get impression that playing at home doesn't count as much in NFL etc. as it does in soccer. Is that right?
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:33 AM GMT
home adv is huge in playoffs in amrican sport
Report wisewords January 18, 2016 12:33 AM GMT
ouch that hit looked brutal
Report mikenichols January 18, 2016 12:37 AM GMT
Cheers, Grantcking. As you've probably guessed, I know absolutely zero about American football.
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:38 AM GMT
Grin
Report GRANTCKING January 18, 2016 12:38 AM GMT
we all gotta start somewhere
Report Wallflower January 18, 2016 12:39 AM GMT
not after timing - why not punt - had the timeouts, never know what happens in the wind
Report Roger De Bris January 18, 2016 12:40 AM GMT
Steelers have blown this one tonight..
Report Wallflower January 18, 2016 12:41 AM GMT
I think so too, but did the job anyway for me
Report Roger De Bris January 18, 2016 12:43 AM GMT
this McManus is mr automatic....
Report Whisperingdeath January 18, 2016 12:44 AM GMT
trunover from Toussaint unbelievable
Report themightymac January 18, 2016 12:45 AM GMT
Brady is happy.
Report Sudoku_Junior January 18, 2016 12:46 AM GMT
Pats are jumping for joy
Report grayhawk January 18, 2016 12:50 AM GMT
Steelers +7.5 backers put through the ringer there Grin
Report ClayDavis January 18, 2016 12:51 AM GMT
CryCryCryCry
Report mikenichols January 18, 2016 12:55 AM GMT
Well, that was decidedly not pleasure. I got through ok in the end, but my God, what a marathon of tension! I'll be far more careful with NFL in future.

Thanks for your comments, fellas.
Report themightymac January 18, 2016 1:17 AM GMT
Better being lucky Mike. Broncos will get ripped apart by Pats. Grab the -3 now, it will be -7 by the weekend. Thought Xmas was past.
Report bankit January 18, 2016 1:32 AM GMT
A little sour grapes on my part cos I had the steelers at 12s for the AFC, but before the fumble the decision by Tomlin not to take a low 50's field goal attempt and instead punt I can't get my head round.. Crazy!!
Report ClayDavis January 18, 2016 9:11 AM GMT
I thought it was a good decision by Tomlin. Manning giving himself up and then getting back up again got them rolling. But it all comes down to Toussaint's fumble. Steelers would have at least have been in field goal range
Report bankit January 18, 2016 10:09 AM GMT
I just think in a low scoring game you take the chance at 3 instead of pinning back another 20yds, academic now roll on the championships....
Report dlarssonf January 18, 2016 12:52 PM GMT
Without doubt bankit you go for the three.  Instead they punt they ball to get an extra 20 yards against a team that struggles to move the ball period.  You go for the three and if you miss it's no disaster.

Tomlin is a clown always makes crazy decisions year in year out trying to be cute. The chap is a terrible game manager and I don't rate him one bit. Also going for it on 4 & 2 in the first quarter instead on taking the points was another silly decision.  The broncos were awful and the steelers let one slip away again and for me that lies firmly with Tomlin
Report GoBallistic January 18, 2016 1:28 PM GMT
I thought Tomlin was correct to punt in those circumstances (strong x-wind, not a great surface) and obviously if it's a good punt it's not easy to field in the wind so decent chance of a turnover (the Steelers themselves muffed one). Just a bad punt
Report leroyb January 20, 2016 12:18 AM GMT
Anyone think GB should have gone for 2 after hail mary? Arizona could not have been mentally prepared for that. Their brains must have still been scrambled from what just happened.
Report Swagger January 20, 2016 10:32 AM GMT
Funny you mention that leroyb as I was thinking that when I was trying to sleep after the game. He gets his critics but it's something Mike Tomlin probably would have gone for especially as the Steelers have such a good strikerate attempting the 2 point conversion. The game is effectively on the line in that one play. Given the current rules leaving it to Overtime allows a coin toss to dictate whether you will be able to get the ball in the hands of your best player, and as it turned out, they never did. It takes balls to go for it but I think in that instance the ball could have easily popped out when Janis landed for the last gasp TD so Green Bay could have gone into it thinking well it's almost a free play to win the game from the clouds and as you say Arizona would have most likely been all over the place (did they have any timeouts left as well?)
Report dlarssonf January 20, 2016 11:36 AM GMT
Green bay were out of timeouts ( not that it makes a difference with nothing on the clock ) - personally I think the right decision was to take it to over time , packers must have felt even losing the toss that their defence was holding up. It would definitely have been a very brave decision to go for two
Report grayhawk January 20, 2016 11:53 AM GMT
McCarthy said something along the lines of he wasn't that comfortable with the personnel ( inexperienced wideouts ) he had available for the two point plays......gotta think Cobb had been the one who'd got the majority of the reps for these.

Also he liked the way his defence had played throughout the game and felt they could stop them.

He had a long time to think about all this ( as well as Arizona on other side of ball ) as they reviewed the Jeff Janis hail Mary for a few minutes.

I agree with dlarsson thinking he made the right call.
Report Swagger January 20, 2016 12:11 PM GMT
Fair points and hindsight is always wonderful! I just feel like Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay got no reward for the amazing plays at the end of regulation - they were worthy of winning the game yet as they lost to me they are basically pointless. Sounds harsh but it's all about winning. If they had gone for the 2 points then I would have made them favourite3s to get it done, I think they were 5/9 on 2 point conversations but even though Zrizona had time to set themselves, mentally they would have been shot to pieces as the defense would have still been reeling from giving up two massive plays. You can spin it either way really that they would have really been up for it to make up for the TD or as I think, self doubt would have crept in, more chance of communication errors etc. Just for fun what play would you guys have called? Imagine Lacy in the backfield only for a bootleg play for Aaron to do his Triple H celebration! I think the element of surprise might have caught them out Cool
Report Swagger January 20, 2016 12:14 PM GMT
Also how close was Clay Matthews to hauling down Fitzy at around the 40 yard line Cry The wheels he showed to get back in position to make the play were exceptionally impressive but then I think he got caught in two minds of how to tackle him - no blame attached but given the quality player that he is, he is still probably thinking he should have gambled on making a jump tackle assuming Fitz would run back infield in which case he would have nailed him.
Report dlarssonf January 20, 2016 12:19 PM GMT
Yep Swagger you can really make arguements for either case , and as a green bay fan I was gutted how it played out. Also Clay should have really brought Larry down and even before that Palmer should have been sacked.  All shoulda woulda coulda unfortunately SadSad

Just to add MCCarthy has lost all faith in Eddie Lacy and I can't say I blame him.  The chap to put it mildly has been a major disappointment and his weight is a disgrace.  He was gassed at the end of his big run and any sort of fitness he would have went all they way for a touchdown.

Green bay again this year have been decimated by injuries but that is starting to become a worry for me. Year after year they have crippling injuries and you have to start to wonder is it more than bad luck and conditioning and training playing a part
Report grayhawk January 20, 2016 12:38 PM GMT
dl...look at this video and tell me it's the same man Shocked just look at the quickness in the hole on some of them plays - unbelievable difference from this years fat lad..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxSm3Hau9Ak

No wonder he's been put on notice,mind whether he turns it round is anyones guess cos the lad is not in love with football and would rather watch cartoons Shocked .....and obviously eat Grin
Report dlarssonf January 20, 2016 12:45 PM GMT
Unbelievable grayhawk - that's who the packers got, a running back with so much talent!!! Now they have a running back who is over weight , banged up and spends most of his day on twitter talking about the food he has eatenSad

Hope he turns it around , next year is a big year for him , but I think the packers have already made up their mind and only a spectacular year will change it for them
Report dlarssonf January 20, 2016 12:46 PM GMT
Also I know Lacy suffers from asthma which can't help with the training and running aspect so I will give him that in his defence !!!
Report therhino January 20, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
Maybe they can get Marshawn next year... A coupl of good ones coming out in the draft this year, Elliot from Ohio State they probably can't get, but am reading Henry may not even be a first rounder. Apparently taking an RB with a high pick is frowned upon in some circles.
Report dlarssonf January 20, 2016 1:01 PM GMT
There is no way Green bay take Marshawn , it's just not the way they do things.  They will draft a running back plus Marshawn is going to look for a big pay day if he even continue's.
Report ClayDavis January 20, 2016 2:04 PM GMT
dlarssonf.......do you think Rodgers and McCarthy have been too quick to disregard their receivers this year? It's been clear that Rodgers hasn't trusted any of them and was holding onto the ball too long and getting hit hard.
Yet in the play offs he kinda had no choice but to trust them and ut Isis off.
Look at the two huge catches Janis made......was Ridgers too quick to dismiss this guy originally?
Report grayhawk January 20, 2016 2:06 PM GMT
More chance of me suiting up than Marshawn Lynch Silly.....could do with a speed back - desperately need some team speed
Report dlarssonf January 20, 2016 2:46 PM GMT
Yes grayhawk I do but I don't know who is to blame there, but it's clear there has been some issue's between McCarthy and Rodgers this year.  What I have seen of Janis I really like so not sure what took so long with him getting a look in.

They have depended far too much imo on Cobb waiting for him to turn his fortune's around and quite frankly he has been a huge disappointmentSad
Report Roger De Bris January 21, 2016 1:29 PM GMT
Janis had 4 career receptions going into that game.
2 catches from 12 targets this season...
Report Westender January 25, 2016 12:16 PM GMT
Beware following the Clay Pigeon - he once provided an analysis of Argie Football and strongly advised a huge lay of River Plate who won 5-1.

He sold a few football forum people down the river then flew the burning nest LaughLaugh
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