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I'm wondering now if I have been too kind in saying the Seahawks are the 4th best team in the NFC? We know the Packers are better (far better) and the Cowboys are better (far better) and Arizona, when they are not playing QBs signed off the street, are better. I'd say the Lions are better too. Prob even the Eagles. So maybe the 6th best team in the NFC is more realistic.
The only reason the Seahawks are here is a) shocking play calling and decision making from the Packers in the championship game and b) Arizona's severe injury problems that allowed the Seahawks to catch them in the division (they wouldn't have otherwise).
Let's go back to the championship game. The Packers weren't just better. They were miles better. Green Bay played the game as if the result was never in doubt. Once they got ahead they believed there was no way Seattle could come back at them.
And where was this great Seattle D everyone talks about? They got absolutely no pressure whatsoever on a Gimpy Rodgers. And the Packers moved the ball easily and ran it right up their gut and smacked them in the chops. Great defense my backside.
And there is better......the Patriots offence matches up are far better against this Seahawks D than the Packers. Strong, powerful running game, with numerous receiving threats for Brady to spread out their defense. Patriots excel at short, quick throws over the middle.....and everyone knows that is Seattle's weakness. How on earth are they going to stop this. Drop Thomas into the middle from Safety? Could do but who this guards the Gronk? If they play man on man against The Gronk they will get burned all day long.
So, add in the fact that thomas and Sherman are banged up, Maxwell against the Panthers didn't look great and now Chancellor has hurt himself in training. These guys are the strength of the team
But the Pats are not a great deep ball threat so it negates the strength of the Seahawks. The Pats are a massive threat over the middle and the Seahawks are going to have a nightmare trying to stop Brady and Co moving the ball.
Now, Seattle's offense. Just how bad is it? No Tate, Harvin or Zack Millar from last year. Or even Richardson from a few weeks ago. Revis is going to have a field day against this lot.
Lynch is a huge threat. But thankfully the Pats run defense is one of the best with big Vince in the middle. So Lynch and you stop Seattle. That will be the Pats mantra and who can disagree with it.
And what about Russell Wilson? What a c**t of a person. Crying like a baby after the Packers game, saying it was God that helped them win!!! So Russell, does God hate Green Bay's guts then using your logic? What a pathetic little tw*t
I'm stunned this is a pick em, can see it being a blowout in favour of the Patriots
All in on the Patriots MONEYLINE
Plus back them to win by 14, 10, 7 and 3
The only reason the Seahawks are here is a) shocking play calling and decision making from the Packers in the championship game and b) Arizona's severe injury problems that allowed the Seahawks to catch them in the division (they wouldn't have otherwise).
Let's go back to the championship game. The Packers weren't just better. They were miles better. Green Bay played the game as if the result was never in doubt. Once they got ahead they believed there was no way Seattle could come back at them.
And where was this great Seattle D everyone talks about? They got absolutely no pressure whatsoever on a Gimpy Rodgers. And the Packers moved the ball easily and ran it right up their gut and smacked them in the chops. Great defense my backside.
And there is better......the Patriots offence matches up are far better against this Seahawks D than the Packers. Strong, powerful running game, with numerous receiving threats for Brady to spread out their defense. Patriots excel at short, quick throws over the middle.....and everyone knows that is Seattle's weakness. How on earth are they going to stop this. Drop Thomas into the middle from Safety? Could do but who this guards the Gronk? If they play man on man against The Gronk they will get burned all day long.
So, add in the fact that thomas and Sherman are banged up, Maxwell against the Panthers didn't look great and now Chancellor has hurt himself in training. These guys are the strength of the team
But the Pats are not a great deep ball threat so it negates the strength of the Seahawks. The Pats are a massive threat over the middle and the Seahawks are going to have a nightmare trying to stop Brady and Co moving the ball.
Now, Seattle's offense. Just how bad is it? No Tate, Harvin or Zack Millar from last year. Or even Richardson from a few weeks ago. Revis is going to have a field day against this lot.
Lynch is a huge threat. But thankfully the Pats run defense is one of the best with big Vince in the middle. So Lynch and you stop Seattle. That will be the Pats mantra and who can disagree with it.
And what about Russell Wilson? What a c**t of a person. Crying like a baby after the Packers game, saying it was God that helped them win!!! So Russell, does God hate Green Bay's guts then using your logic? What a pathetic little tw*t
I'm stunned this is a pick em, can see it being a blowout in favour of the Patriots
All in on the Patriots MONEYLINE
Plus back them to win by 14, 10, 7 and 3
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WAC !!!! Forum laughing stock
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Mug pubic money backing the Pats, with the clued up guys getting all the value on Seattle
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Swardean, talking of laughing stocks, how did the Titans do this season? What was it you said about the Titans?
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Clay let's his hatred for the Seahwaks impair his judgement as usual......
Newsflash, the Packers were not better than the Seahawks in the C'ship game. If they were, they would have come up with more than 22pts. The Seahawks gifted them many turnovers in their own half, and it was embarrassing watching the Packers trying to score from the 1 yard line. That Seahawks defense was OUTSTANDING against the Packers. They may have pushed them around to get into scoring position, but when it was MONEYTIME the yellow Packers were manhandled at the goal line. And as for Russell Wilson. A true football fan could only admire the guy. 5'11 and nobody wanted him, and look where he is now. On the verge of winning back to back Superbowls. The way he extends plays is exciting, and his 3rd & 19 completion against the Packers from inside the pocket was great tv, even better was the 2pt hail mary conversion at the end. The only pathetic, little **** round here is YOU, Davis. Give credit where it is due. The Seahawks are a GREAT team. Coping with injuries is what the NFL is about. It's next man up. Too bad the Cardinals & Eagles roster couldn't cope with the injuries. The Patriots may beat them, seeing as the Seahawks are carrying a few injuries, and if they do, good luck to them. But I'll be cheering the Seahawks on even more now that I read your usual, pathetic, tripe NFL write-up. I'm amazed you still have the audacity to post on here, after your laughable Super Bowl 48 write-up about the Seahawks..... |
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the 4th best team in the nfc is a match for the no1 team in the afc any day of the week.
i stuck up for you clay when you've been foolish, i stuck up for you when you have been idiotic but now you have crossed a line. it is obviously a line you wanted to cross but all sympathy is lost now. whether the pats or the hawks win is immaterial, you are clearly a nutbar. enjoy the game  |
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Roger, he could be 4ft with one arm for all I care, anyone bubbling like a baby on live TV claiming if it wasn't for God the comeback wouldn't have happened deserves no respect IMHO
North, I care not one ioata |
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quite right too clay. i like your spirit even tho you are full of sh1t
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Russell can do a Hare Krishna dance in his Speedos crying after the game for all I care.
Whatever belief in whatever God, he wants to say he has, that raised his game to those levels, is all the better for neutral NFL fans. |
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as a confirmed heathen i find all the god stuff hard to listen to but it's par for the course stateside.
i would not pay too much heed, i'm sure god likes his sport fair & even. |
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& the balls at the correct psi
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Nice to see the Clay's government cheque has arrived so he can go all in. Again. Yawn.
The betting line was set by people and software that has has a million times more football knowledge then Clay has, and that line has held in place for 2 weeks by bettors that have way more football knowledge then Clay will ever have, yet Clay can say with certainty that the game will be a New England blowout. I think Clay was the one sucking all the air out of the New England balls, or maybe he's been spending too much time at White Heart Lane praying to God for a Champion's League spot. New England knows how to beat Seattle. Green Bay gave them the blueprint, and Belicheater had 2 weeks to study the game films. But, Seattle also has studied the films, and they know how Green Bay were all over them. So, Seattle knows what New England knows about them. Also, Seattle isn't going to cough up the football like they did against GB. I can see nothing wrong with the betting line. The man knows. Usually, defence beats offense. Betfair is a trading site and I don't care who wins, so I think the prudent thing to do is watch the game, see how it's going, then jump in when things looks obvious. |
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Fair point clay, I did think the titans had squeak for their division, and was wrong
 However, on the same thread there were two other selections, they seemed to do OK? I actually like you clay, your bluster, at least gets some banter and debate on the forum. Enjoy the game mate. |
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Roger...have to disagree that the Seahawks defence was outstanding against the Packers....they weren't up to their usual standard for me ( granted the goal line D was excellent )
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You've crossed the line this time CD.
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I see people have resorted to personal abuse rather than disagree with my analysis of Pats having too many weapons.
Seahawks weaknesses is over the middle. The Patriots strength is short, quick passes over the middle. How do seahawks stop the Patriots moving the ball? Remember Cam Newton hit 25+ first downs against Seattle in the Divisional round. Both Carolina and Green Bay moved the ball with ease against this defense Anyone thinking the Pats won't move the ball comfortably know nothing about this game Do the Seahawks play one on one with The Gronk? Huge error if they do |
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I have 3 hopes for this years Super Bowl
3. I hope Brady gets a 4th ring cementing his legacy as a top 10 all time great QB 2. I hope to see the most "bad ass" military flyover ever. 1. And most importantly I REALLY REALLY hope this will be a good contest after last years debacle. Good luck with your bets Clay Davis and everyone else. I don't know who will win and am putting a small wager on Gronk and Edelman to be the MVP. |
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I see people have resorted to personal abuse.
Oh the irony... What was it you called Wilson? |
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A runt
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He made a typo
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Although, money always comes first, I really hope it's a great game. I think it will be.
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Katy Perry makes the HT show watchable for the first time since, well, this is the first time it's been watchable!
I normally hate her type of performer but she grew on me on College Gameday and she's hot! On NE @ 4-1 a while ago, and also to score over 23.5. Teams are moving the ball on Seattle, 3 TD's and a FG in perfect conditions should not be too much. Pats scoring about 40 PPG this post season. Around 30 PPG in the regular season. It's a game I don't want to call a winner really, I don't want to go against NE or Seattle. Gonna trade the game instead, I think it will be back and forth. |
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Yeah they should definitely have Metallica or AC/DC perform, don't think they're likely though. I can't stand NE to be honest much rather Seattle won, but obviously money trumps sentiment as a gambler!
Pleased i'm on ante-post. Might well do a Gronk prop of some sort. |
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Do you bet baseball Texas? Dodger fan myself. Really looking forward the season, I like the daily involvement of it. NBA is pretty much daily but it leaves me cold, I don't trust it either. The run to opening day from the SB is a real bore. Worst time of the betting year for me, that said it's a bit of a break. so tired and bored with soccer. I'll bet Rugby Union 6 nations, and the Cheltenham (March) and Aintree (early April) festivals and that's pretty much it.
Then into baseball after watching for a couple of weeks. |
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Thank you, Clay, I have a brother Stateside, big NE fan. Now, I can have a reasonable convo with him about tonight's game. Thanks again
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Everything Clay said he backs up. I agree with him. Belichick will put the foot on their throat and won't gift them the game like GB did. Pats will score 30+
The only reason most will be watching this at HT is because Katie Perry will be on. Pats win by the widest hcap margin i can find, 14.0. |
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Seattle's defense were outsatnding against Green Bay.
Look at the starting point of Green bay's 2nd, 3rd & 5th drives in the game. SEA 19 yard line (FG) SEA 23 yard line (FG) SEA 33 yard line (FG) Green Bay never had another drive starting in Seattle territory, result? INT, Punt, Punt, Punt, FG, Punt, Punt, FG. That is some effort from the SEA defense with their offense putting them in the s**t. |
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It was more McCarty's conservative approach that put them in the ****, trying to run the clock and protect what they'd built (probably even protect Rodgers) , putting the hawks back deep at every opportunity by punting seemingly confident that Seattle couldn't hurt them offensively because up until that point they couldn't.
GB have struggled close to the line all season. Seattle did nothing extraordinary which hadn't already been done before to GB close to the goal line this season, believe me. Seattle didn't give up, and GB choked. That's all it took. It might be hard on Seattle, but i thought they were outplayed for 90% of that game on both sides of the ball. |
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done pats -5.5 and -6.5
wouldn't surprise me if they won double digits(99 being a tad out of the equation,obviously) think the hawks may get found out even tho' have a soft spot for seattle so if yeese wanna make money 2nite just oppose me but i gotta get it right sometime,haven't i?  |
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It's good to see that after 30 odd replies no one has disagreed with my original assessment.
Pars are very strong where the Seahawks are weakest in defense. Also will Seahawks go man on man on the Gronk? Pats it's simple.......stop Lynch, stop Wilson breaking free, you stop Seattle |
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i'm sorry? am i reading that correctly? the seahawks are "weakest in defence???"
the no1 rated defence in all of football is "weakest in defence???" i mean that is just drivel regardless of what happens tonight |
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Kearse and Baldwin SO under rated its criminal
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i keep changing my mind about how this will go & who will win so i guess the thing to do is sit on the fence & go for a punt on the game going into OT
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North, I never said Seattle are weakest in defense. I said that the Pats' strength is short, quick passes over the middle. Defending short, quick passes over the middle is Seahawks' weakness
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oh ok, fair point then
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Where's God now Richie boy you horrible little cry baby.....he obviously doesn't like you very much
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not exactly the "severe beating" you predicted tho was it.
was never going to be anything other than a close fought affair |
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Don't cry for me
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