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19 Jan 15
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barring a miracle that is the game.
Seattle are so lucky to be in this but surely cannot play as badly again.
they seem to find a way to win anyway anyhow.
Seattle are so lucky to be in this but surely cannot play as badly again.
they seem to find a way to win anyway anyhow.
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The Pats have too many weapons for Seattle
The Seattle defence is not anywhere near as good as last year. Teams are running the ball easily on them A fully fit Rodgers would have destroyed them yesterday The last two decent QBs they have faced, Rodgers and Romo, have moved the ball easily against them |
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I will have to be backing the pats cannot see past a pats win
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I'm hoping Brady gets no. 4 but honestly believe if both teams bring their best Seattle is a 4 point better team.
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like New England's chances after looking at both games,they look in good physical shape right now,Seattle were a little lucky,maybe they used it all up last night,New England are well balanced on both sides of the ball,should be a decent final..
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i would agree the seattle defence does not look quite the force of last season but lets not forget that despite an awful day at the office they still only actually gave up the one TD and only another 6pts after the disasterous 1st Q.
they lead most of the stats on defence & give up fewer points than any team. although they are down on most stats they are not miles behind the 2013 regular season and interestingly have given up considerably fewer rushing yards. although they are down on last term they do still lead the league in defending receiving yards too. unlike last season against denver tho they are up against a top 10 defence in NE this time but the stats still point to a seattle win imo as long as they learn their lessons from last night. |
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New England are a better balanced team than the Seahawks - they still have a great offense combined with a much better defense this season and they have the big game winning mentality.
Tom Brady is a better QB than Russell Wilson. In my opinion, unlike the Packers and the Broncos, the Patriots are mentally strong and will match the Seahawks in that crucial department. Similar point here is that Belichick knows how to close out a game/play call a game without being too negative - I was of the view that the cautious approach by McCarthy cost the Pack with the Seahawks on the ropes. I think it was more a case of the Packers exposing the few weaknesses the Seahawks have in similar fashion as the Cowboys did as opposed to them just having a bad day at the office. The latter would have won by more than just 7 points during the regular season but for Special Teams play and again the Special Teams rescued the day for the Seahawks against the Packers combined with poor/negative play calling and several individual mistakes by the Packers and Rodgers playing on one leg thus unable to move out of the pocket. You would have to get up pretty early for Belichick to fall for any of those gimmicks! Take out Harvin and Tate from last season, where are the quality receivers who will torch Revis and co...there aren't any so it will come down to the Pats focusing on stopping the run against Lynch and the read option of Wilson - on that note can you see Wilson beating Brady? Further, when pressure was applied on him last Sunday for the large part he folded like a house of horrors - I expect him to feel the heat in the Superbowl. I thought Denver would exposed the above weaknesses in the Superbowl last season and hold up my hands that I was badly wrong but I failed to appreciate how strong the Seattle defense was and that they had more going on offense than I thought. Subsequently, I haven't had any trust in Manning/Fox in getting the job done against a proper team this season. I agree with Clay I don't think the Seattle defense is as strong as it was last season and in my opinion the offense has certainly suffered downside. The Seahawks will to some extent, feel like they shouldn't even be in the Superbowl given how the game went against the Pack so they have the no fear factor in their favour but I disagree with those who think Seattle are the better team - where are they going to score all their points from, they can't continually rely on defensive plays and special teams. I think New England will win by double figures and Brady will take Wilson back to school. I think the Patriots will put on a performance whereby after the game people will think that they would have beaten any team from the NFL (except the Cowboys of course  ). The bookies got it wrong last season by having Denver as the favourites and I think they have it wrong having the Seahawks as slight favourites this season - New England should be clear favourites for me for the aforementioned reasons. |
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It is the final I wanted, the two number 1 seeds in a pick 'em game. I can't wait.
I would agree Seattle are not as good a team as last but that still does not mean they cannot win. As swagger stated, Tate and Harvin moving on, and the season ending injuries to Zach Miller and now Richardson are big blows, but they have overcome these losses all year so why not now. Baldwin, lockette and Kearse are all more than capable if they get the service. I dont think NE will be able to stop the running game of seattle and I dont think the NE offensive line is as good at Green Bays and hence I think Brady will be under significant pressure throughout the game. It is wrong to try to bill this as a brady/wilson match up as that is not the case. And even if you did, Wilson is 10-0 v Elite (superbowl winning QBs) - including a defeat of NE. Arizona is a stadium Seattle know well and are comfortable in. Also, will Seattle play as badly? 5 turnovers is horrendous (just 14 in all previous games!), and they still win. I think they will win the TO battle this time and that will be the difference. There has been a big overreaction to last weekends games, with seahawks scrapping through and NE winning easily, that has put the line to almost pick em, when really the line should be -3 seattle. NE a public team may push the line in their favour, so I may hold off my bets until closer to game time. Anyway, whatever camp you are in, and who ever you like, it is setup for one of the best superbowls for years. GL all. |
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I tend to agree with the prevailing attitude in this thread, NE for me. Best Pats team in years (and I HATE them) and too many weapons on offense, Blunt will blunt their defensive front, if Lacy can carve holes the NE run game will do so too, and Blunt doesn't have asthma. I just think NE are the slightly better team, with too much offense, and with 2 weeks to game plan they will have too many wrinkles/formations/new plays and cheating for Seattle to contend with.
I do think it is dangerous to read too much into Seattle's game though. Freaky game. But one cannot deny how easily GB moved the ball, for get the freak plays and awful weak playcalling of MM and the dumb plays etc or how bad Wilson was. 95% of that won't happen again, but before the game got freaky GB moved the ball at will. NE will do the same. I also don't think that Seattle could blow out Indy 45-7 in a canter either, if we're looking back to last week. Someone mentioned the mental aspect with NE, great point, this isn't a flaky team who will crumble under pressure, GB's choke was one for ages. |
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I am loathe to admit it and I would like to see the seahawks go back to back because this defensive unit deserves the accolades this would bring but I believe NE just have too many weapons on offence and one of the best coaches of all time(tho i cannot stand the man). NE for me by 10 tho I hope im wrong.
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31-16 Seattle
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It's the game many wanted and indeed forecast. It hurts me to say it (as a jet) but the pats should be favourites in my book. The seahawks D is impressive but bradys offence should outscore a wilson led hawks who will struggle to score 20+ pts which will be needed to compete with the pats. This leads me to back the pats on the moneyline and it will be a confident bet as well.
Enjoy men this is going to be a classic. |
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24-16 Pats
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i seem to remember reading a lot of posts that Denver would have too many "weapons" for Seattle last year too.
it really is a fascinating match up tho & i think it will go down to wire, very possibly OT which should be about a 12/1 shot. Bam Bam Kam v Gronkowski could be the battle that tips it one way or the other. might put a couple of quid on both for MVP. the only problem being if they cancel each other out to an extent. |
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Seahawks fan here:
Patriots to win by 7-11...Seahawks offensive line is the key...lynch not making the yards and Wilson not able to make the plays...that's the difference this year. Granted, they do what they need to do to win..but as other people have said...the pats are balanced...are quality in most depts...that will see them through... |
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Off the toe
Off the toe 24 Jan 15 21:02 Joined: 07 Sep 05 | Topic/replies: 1,672 | Blogger: Off the toe's blog Seahawks fan here: Patriots to win by 7-11...Seahawks offensive line is the key...lynch not making the yards and Wilson not able to make the plays...that's the difference this year. lynch has made more yards per game this season than last and guess what, wilson has more completed passes for more yards this season than last too and exactly the same completion percentage rate as the 2013 season. i also think you can make a pretty good argument they had a tougher regular season schedule than last season too. not saying that makes them champs next week but that post was erroneous. it's the defensive stats that are down. still the best in the league but not quite where they were last year. don't go basing all your assumptions on 3 poor offensive quarters last week. |
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Marked moved too far on the back of the Championship games for me .....a Seattle move from 1.66 to 2.08 ( at one point ) was too big in my opinion.
Feel sure that we'll see more of Wilson with his feet in the gameplan next week......at least he can't play as badly as last week  |
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* market
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NATIONAL ANTHEM - UNDER 122.5 AT 5/6
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Katy Perry to be hot at Halftime - 1.01.
I might even watch the HT show this year. |
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In the rules for the match it states: Predict the result of this match including any overtime that may be played. IN THE EVENT OF A TIE AFTER OVERTIME ALL BETS PLACED ON THIS MARKET WILL BE VOID.
Can someone tell me what happens in the event of a tie after overtime? Do they just keep playing more overtimes until there is a winner or do they come back on another date to play again? |
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Playoff OT Rules state that they continue to play overtime periods until someone wins.
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Patiots all day for me, 33-24
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Seattle were only 1.66 before the Pats/Indi game kicked off, given there was still a chance that Indi could make the Sbowl.
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I'm just posting so I won't get fined.
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This is gonna be a blow out. 38 - 10 Pats.
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This is gonna be a blowout 41-7 Hawks
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You know why I'm here.
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The first consecutive set of first downs made - GSM called on here 1.01
  (though thinking about it, I suppose that's why NFL is so lucrative on here ) |
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Seattle will either get blown away by a double digit margin and that last game will look like a lucky fluke, or they will win a hard fought come-from-behind thriller by 3 and cement themselves as one of the legendary battling teams of all time. Hows that for covering my ass?
Quietly hoping the Seahawks deliver a thrashing akin to last year's but............for me a no bet game that hopefully will be a cracker one way or the other. |
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Wallflower 31 Jan 15 12:21 Joined: 01 Nov 04 | Topic/replies: 4,878 | Blogger: Wallflower's blog
The first consecutive set of first downs made - GSM called on here 1.01HappyCry Should be betting on it on here Wallflower .....i know who i'd be lumping on ( the fooking prick ) |
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This is gonna be an out blow, 3-0 Pats
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one of my more confident bets: Brady under 260.5 passing yards.
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New England knows they aren't as good as people think. ( substitution tricks, deflated balls ) Seattle can't be as bad as they were last week. Seattle fixed what Green Bay exposed. Seattle knows who the New England 4 go to guys are. New England will make the mistake of disrespecting Luke Wilson. Defence beats offense. Seattle wins. 12+ points wouldn't be a surprise.
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I think Seattle will win, but no bet until the game is in progress. You never know , Seattle make have the case of the fumbles again.
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got to give it to the americans they made the english cup final look like a sunday park game the super bowl been on their tv since 9am in the morning
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i think whoever wins this game will win by over 10pts
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Over 4.5 sacks
Edelman mvp fancy the pats but will hold for now |
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Blount first touchdown.
New England -7.5 on h'cap. |
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Honestly not sure who's going to end up winning, compelling arguments for both.
So long as it's close and exciting, and there's over 14.5 penalties, it's all good for me. Also looking forward to the halftime seethe about young people and their music. |